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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on February 26, 2008, 06:58:40 PM

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: hunter on February 26, 2008, 06:58:40 PM

Anyone can give me a hint to the value of this one? Will it give me THE sound? Seller wants 1500 EUR, is it too much?

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Woogie on February 26, 2008, 07:04:31 PM

Seems a tad steep to me.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 26, 2008, 07:10:56 PM

I would rather buy a Cornell Plexi 45/50 for that money

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: hunter on February 26, 2008, 07:16:30 PM

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

I would rather buy a Cornell Plexi 45/50 for that money

hmja, maybe right indeed ... or 2-3 more vintage moderns   :P

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: gwEm on February 26, 2008, 07:26:23 PM

i see the attraction very well of these old amps :) but the others are probably right and its not exactly logical.

as a little compromise why not buy some nice NOS valves for the vintage modern?

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Twinfan on February 26, 2008, 08:38:12 PM

That's very expensive for a non-plexi.  I'd say it was 500 Euro overpriced.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 26, 2008, 09:49:40 PM

1500EUR is about £1150 so that would make the amp a little on the steep side.  However, it looks to be in nice condition and all original.  £1000 (1300EUR) would be tops imo AND I'd expect some Mullard or Brimars in there.  

Dave, where are you seeing 100% stock PTP-wired SLPs for £750.00 ??? - they seem to be going more in the £850-900 region from what I've seen.

One thing is for sure, the price of all-original vintage Marshalls is still going nowhere but up.  I thought I'd overpaid a bit for my '76 Superbass (£500) but it seems that's a £750 amp now.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: sambo on February 26, 2008, 10:34:24 PM

This looks like a good deal HTH...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MARSHALL-VALVE-TUBE-AMP-SUPER-BASS-100W_W0QQitemZ320218985295QQihZ011QQcategoryZ68247QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


L serial number makes it, what... 78 or something?

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Dakine on February 26, 2008, 11:01:06 PM

what is THE sound?
Am sure it will give THE sound of a 70's superlead.

Thats costly even by current US standards. Also, old as it is it may be abit unreliable? Maybe a copy or a 'tweaked' one would be better (i.e. been gone through by a pro alread).

However, IMO, those old amps DO have a great tone WAY better than the modern stuff. Even the old lead solder etc. (caps yadda yadda) helps alot with the sound.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 26, 2008, 11:13:48 PM

Quote from: sambo

This looks like a good deal HTH...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-MARSHALL-VALVE-TUBE-AMP-SUPER-BASS-100W_W0QQitemZ320218985295QQihZ011QQcategoryZ68247QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


L serial number makes it, what... 78 or something?

'if' it stays at £385, then yes - a very good deal.

s/n 'L' makes it a '79

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Twinfan on February 27, 2008, 08:48:37 AM

I've not seen any recently HTH, so my 500 Euro was an estimate.  I was a bit off, but I'd use that as a starting point with the seller  ;)

I just don't get this old amps thing.  To me they're just for the collectors unless you can get one cheap!

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: gwEm on February 27, 2008, 10:27:52 AM

Quote from: Twinfan

I've not seen any recently HTH, so my 500 Euro was an estimate.  I was a bit off, but I'd use that as a starting point with the seller  ;)

I just don't get this old amps thing.  To me they're just for the collectors unless you can get one cheap!

Says the guy with a fistful of very cool old Laneys! I really fancied your 60W Klipp by the way - hopefully you sold it so I don't need to think about it anymore ;)

I'm an electronics engineer, and so is my old man. I've seen enough bits of his old gear to know that old pieces of engineering - including (and especially) guitar amps - seem to get some sort of humanlike personality after a few decades.

I love the smell of these old pieces of equipment. Its a great feeling to know that something 30 years old is still able to rock hard. Feels satisfying to look after and fix them up. At least thats how I feel. Maybe its a bit like owning a classic car.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Twinfan on February 27, 2008, 11:31:33 AM

Yep, I've got two old Laneys but I got them cheap!

The 60w is still for sale by the way, will be on eBay at the weekend if no-one takes it beforehand  ;)

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: gwEm on February 27, 2008, 05:27:58 PM

Quote from: Twinfan

Yep, I've got two old Laneys but I got them cheap!

The 60w is still for sale by the way, will be on eBay at the weekend if no-one takes it beforehand  ;)

i'd really like to go for it, but have just ordered a hohner bass and some mildly obscure steinberger parts which were a bit expensive :/ sorry mate.

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 27, 2008, 06:09:01 PM

Quote from: Twinfan

Yep, I've got two old Laneys but I got them cheap!

The 60w is still for sale by the way, will be on eBay at the weekend if no-one takes it beforehand  ;)

will you take provi ???

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Twinfan on February 27, 2008, 06:24:28 PM

Provi?????  What's that?

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: sambo on February 27, 2008, 06:36:24 PM

^Was thinking much the same thing! :lol:

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 27, 2008, 07:02:05 PM

food stamps, gift vouchers - that kind of thing.

 :lol:

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Twinfan on February 27, 2008, 10:54:23 PM

:lol:  Gotcha!

And no  ;)

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Henk on March 02, 2008, 03:59:11 PM

Just came back from a week hollidays.

These go for 1000 euro and over, 1500 is asking for a -nothnx- if you ask me, 1250 would be worth considering IMO.

Tricky bit with these is that you really need to plug into it and see if you like it, most bad samples have hit the junkpile long ago, but the sound often has such a distinct signature not all of these will be worthwhile IMVHO.

This is the fun part to me at least i should add, i really get a kick out of trying old stuff and see if it speaks to me. Ive played one like these a few years ago, that sample was a tad too dark sounding for my taste but had a very full sounding sustain begging for one of those extended Hendrix solo's. Might just hit the spot for you, so if its not too far away just check it out i'd say.

GL, Henk

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: hunter on March 02, 2008, 04:09:43 PM

Hmmm, and how are JMP MK 2s?

Do those produce similar tones?

God I need to learn more about these ole amps ...

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Will on March 02, 2008, 04:15:53 PM

Quote from: hunter

Hmmm, and how are JMP MK 2s?

Do those produce similar tones?

God I need to learn more about these ole amps ...

I want one! I swear, a month ago, when I didn't have the money they were going for cheaper...

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Henk on March 02, 2008, 04:36:45 PM

Quote from: hunter

Hmmm, and how are JMP MK 2s?

Do those produce similar tones?

God I need to learn more about these ole amps ...

I personally think sample variation in old Marshall amps makes up for more difference in sound then the actual amp types, quite frustrating actually. So yes, if you ask me they are comparable.

Overall i think the MKII's have more of a rock tone(KT66!?), more raw, less compressed. Many guitarists i know prefer an MKII over a SL, maybe the cleans arent as nice, but the MKII driven tone is VERY hard to beat IMO.


Offcourse i have a nice read for you:


http://www.legendarytones.com/marshallshoppers2.html

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: hunter on March 02, 2008, 04:40:29 PM

shite just lost one by a few euros :cry:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260215916740

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Henk on March 02, 2008, 05:01:03 PM

Quote from: hunter

shitee just lost one by a few euros :cry:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260215916740

 :lol: i just passed Wuppertal today......

You should be glad, its like 70kg or so....    :(

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: hunter on March 02, 2008, 05:06:42 PM

Quote from: Henk

Quote from: hunter

shitee just lost one by a few euros :cry:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260215916740

 :lol: i just passed Wuppertal today......

You should be glad, its like 70kg or so....    :(

Ah? Where in Holland are you located Henk? Which are your preferred guitar shops?

Title: How much is this superlead from 72 worth?
Post by: Henk on March 02, 2008, 05:21:48 PM

I live in the east of Holland. There are only three shops around here worth visiting IMO.

http://www.theamericanguitarstore.com/

http://www.thefellowshipofacoustics.com/inventory.asp?MerkID=2

http://www.double-d.nl/

These have proven to have been worthwile checking out regularly at least. The TAGS shop is run by a really great guy called Kay, they have a really sweet Gibson Page relic too  :P