Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: samoth2 on March 03, 2008, 07:19:34 PM
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I'm always thinking of building myself a Warmoth, and now the $ is so low i might even do something about it.
Once i wanted the entire guitar to be exotic woods but i think i like a more simple look now.
I think i want a strat body with a reverse KWS neck. But i don't really know which woods. I'm guessing an alder body and an all maple neck would be typical 80's?
I would want a locking tremolo, however i don't know which kind is best, so i would like some recommendations there to.
I also don't know which tuning pegs to choose, so i could use help there to.
It will only have a volume knob.
Then there is the looks question, what colour would look cool?
To sum it up i need help on which woods, bridge, tuning pegs and pickup to choose. Plus how it should look.
When its done i would want a no bullshitee 80's metal machine, that would be used for Dio, Ozzy, Whitesnake, Crüe, Priest, VH old Gary Moore and similar.
Thank in advance everybody.
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My Warmoth/semi-warmoth creations:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/Yoshi.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/Criss.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/Kami-1.jpg)
Alder will be a great choice. All 3 of those guitars have Warmoth necks on em.
For a bridge, go with an OFR. I prefer using a standard nut with a locking nut behind it.
You MUST go reverse headstock or it won't be proper 80s, unless you're doing the Charvel thing like I did with Yoshi.
Good luck with it!
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The must used body woods in 80 was Basswood... It would be the cheaper too. Korina and Mahogany are good choices too!
To neck could be almost anything...
For the colour I would say: ANY flake color of their site (if you want it looks like a 80's of course)
Bridge: Original Floyd Rose or Schaller or Gotoh... they're good floyd roses...
Tuners: Schaller, Gotoh... can't go wrong with that...
Pickups: I believe Miracle Man or Nailbomb... But there is many pu that would work: Holydiver, Painkiller, Cold Sweat.............
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I looked through all your axes before posting to get some inspiration, and I don't think i want any dots, 'cause the clean look just looks so awesome :twisted:
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Forgot:
Perhaps, for the bands you said, a 24-3/4" scale lenght could work very well!
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:o :o :o
http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/body.htm
take your pick!
the off-centre bullseye is my favourite
(http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/C1509kij.jpg)
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The must used body woods in 80 was Basswood... It would be the cheaper too. Korina and Mahogany are good choices too!
To neck could be almost anything...
For the colour I would say: ANY flake color of their site (if you want it looks like a 80's of course)
Bridge: Original Floyd Rose or Schaller or Gotoh... they're good floyd roses...
Tuners: Schaller, Gotoh... can't go wrong with that...
Pickups: I believe Miracle Man or Nailbomb... But there is many pu that would work: Holydiver, Painkiller, Cold Sweat.............
The two guitars i have are both mahogny, so i would like something else, but i have always thought of basswood as discount wood so i wasn't really considering that.
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:o :o :o
http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/body.htm
take your pick!
the off-centre bullseye is my favourite
Yeah Charvel made some great finishes, but i don't have the guts to paint it myself :?
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Yes, usually is the cheaper... But it was VERY used... as far as I know...
I like this one:
(http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/mini-4848extra6.JPG)
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And this: :oops:
(http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/mini-3615extrafull.jpg)
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the white explorer pro with Kahler trem i will be getting back for assembly soon is pretty 80's - nice white coiled cap head allen bolt holy diver as well
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I like this one:
[pic of blood spatter charvel]
That's actually real blood- His girlfriend battered herself to death with it when he brought it home.
Seriously though, this guy makes twinfan look like a minimalist. :wink:
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People have already said the necessary stuff you need like woods etc.
But for pickups theres only 1 way to go, HOLY DIVER! It's just pure 80's.
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WARREN DEMARTINI CHARVEL!!!
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Plain white with black hardware and zebra or black pickups, or even plastic covers would be quite 80s I guess. ;)
BTW TO, do you order the necks for longer nut pocket to fit the normal nut and the locking one? I'm interested in a similar thing using the Khaler 5514 string lock (the one without allens).
Thanks
Sorry fot the hijack.
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(http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/ozfox_wayne.jpg)
(http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/ozfox04.jpg)
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I would say it has to be A Holy Diver for that mid to late 80s sound 1983-89
Or a Rebel Yell would work well
I don't think it has to be a reverse headstock - although they do look cool
An old Charvel model 2 would be cool, or a Kramer Baretta
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BTW TO, do you order the necks for longer nut pocket to fit the normal nut and the locking one?
Nope, the locking nut was cut into the headstock to fit.
Sorry fot the hijack.
Don't be, that was an excellent question and quite in-topic, imo.
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I would say it has to be A Holy Diver for that mid to late 80s sound 1983-89
Or a Rebel Yell would work well
I would think ---
For most old school or NWOBHM, Holy Diver
For early power metal that spawned from the New Wave, Cold Sweat
For metal spawned in the LA area, Miracle Man
For the 'big 80s' splashy sound, Rebel Yell
For late 80s Shrapnel style shred, Nailbomb
What do you think, Jonathan?
I don't think it has to be a reverse headstock - although they do look cool
Definitely not, but it does add a more instant, cliche 80s vibe.
An old Charvel model 2 would be cool, or a Kramer Baretta
Yes and yes. :)
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What about a gunslinger or a Strat with buckers and an OFR? Nothing's more metal than an Iron Maiden strat!
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Some sort of Baretta look-a-like in plain white with a simple dotted 'board would get my vote.
I'd go for an alder body, maple board and a Holy Diver.
And definintely a reverse headstock, preferebly white to match the body.
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Some sort of Baretta look-a-like in plain white with a simple dotted 'board would get my vote.
I'd go for an alder body, maple board and a Holy Diver.
And definintely a reverse headstock, preferebly white to match the body.
I dig the white idea, then it would look kinda like this
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4098/unavngivetwj6.th.png) (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unavngivetwj6.png)
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Perfect! Can you get me one while you're at it? ;)
I've been tempted to pick up one of these in the past - never quite got round to it though:
http://www.meanstreetguitars.com/Unchained%20Guitars.htm
(http://www.meanstreetguitars.com/Mean_Street_Guitars_Unchained_white_multi.jpg)
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~ Strat body shape.
~ Reversed headstock.
~ Striking colour, ie, ice white.
~ Double-locking trem of some sort, be it Kahler or Floydy or Edgeofsomesort.
~ Hooooot humbucker.
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mmm, obviously the 1980s means something different to me ;)
but these axes are certinaly very 1980s, but not in the style I prefer.
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:o :o :o
http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/body.htm
take your pick!
the off-centre bullseye is my favourite
I have the biggest boner right now :o
Damn I need another Charvel...
But dude - Maple neck + fretboard, Alder Body, Original Floyd Rose Trem. Then keep the neck and fretboard unfinished and get a White finish on the body, with either all black or all gold hardware.
Then send it to me :D
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:o :o :o
http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/body.htm
take your pick!
the off-centre bullseye is my favourite
I have the biggest boner right now :o
Damn I need another Charvel...
But dude - Maple neck + fretboard, Alder Body, Original Floyd Rose Trem. Then keep the neck and fretboard unfinished and get a White finish on the body, with either all black or all gold hardware.
Then send it to me :D
Yeah i don't really like finishes on neck but i thought maple required a finish?
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BTW TO, do you order the necks for longer nut pocket to fit the normal nut and the locking one?
Nope, the locking nut was cut into the headstock to fit.
Sorry fot the hijack.
Don't be, that was an excellent question and quite in-topic, imo.
Ah thanks! :good:
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:o :o :o
http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/body.htm
take your pick!
the off-centre bullseye is my favourite
I have the biggest boner right now :o
Damn I need another Charvel...
But dude - Maple neck + fretboard, Alder Body, Original Floyd Rose Trem. Then keep the neck and fretboard unfinished and get a White finish on the body, with either all black or all gold hardware.
Then send it to me :D
Yeah i don't really like finishes on neck but i thought maple required a finish?
Just oil it 8)
It will feel beautiful.
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Holydiver? Check
White? Check
Alder body? Check
Maple neck? Check
Strat? ummm no.
Single pickup? Umm the neck is screwed to the body until i get a black esquire scratchplate...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/unsubtle57/12022008.jpg)
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Thats not 80's shred though :P
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Perfect! Can you get me one while you're at it? ;)
I've been tempted to pick up one of these in the past - never quite got round to it though:
http://www.meanstreetguitars.com/Unchained%20Guitars.htm
(http://www.meanstreetguitars.com/Mean_Street_Guitars_Unchained_white_multi.jpg)
oh, man, that's awesome. i'm not much fussed on reverse headstocks (that one has a normal one, which is cool)... i like either the strat headstock or the banana kramer one.
red chequerboard or bullseye on that white would be cool too.
plain red or yellow, with slanted 'bucker, is awesome too.
:)
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Does that have the same font as Metal Gear Solid r is it just me?
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That's my idea of Tele-heaven - a better bridge and a hot humbucker.
*boner*
~ Strat body shape.
~ Reversed headstock.
~ Striking colour, ie, ice white.
~ Double-locking trem of some sort, be it Kahler or Floydy or Edgeofsomesort.
~ Hooooot humbucker.
Ahem, something like this!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2741/80sstratxw6.gif)
I even added a toggleswitch on the top horn.
*touches self*
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That's my idea of Tele-heaven - a better bridge and a hot humbucker.
*boner*
~ Strat body shape.
~ Reversed headstock.
~ Striking colour, ie, ice white.
~ Double-locking trem of some sort, be it Kahler or Floydy or Edgeofsomesort.
~ Hooooot humbucker.
Ahem, something like this!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2741/80sstratxw6.gif)
I even added a toggleswitch on the top horn.
*touches self*
How did you make that please?
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http://www.nymphusa.com/kisekae/kisekaeE1.asp
I just added up some numbers, and ended with a total price around £850..
I'd better see if I can get some parts for when i am turning 18 :)
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Yup, the good old Kisekae. 8)
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bah! i will jump on this thread ;)
more types of guitars than superstrats were available with one pickup in the 80s...!
The 80s were definately a special time - it seems everyone has a different memory and interpretation of it. Was discsussing abit with Jonathan yesterday.
Metal-wise I prefer the early 80s... Not so keen on the over-glammed late 80s period. But there was some great electronic music that came out in this time.
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I would think ---
For most old school or NWOBHM, Holy Diver
Not to be a troll, but I'm not sure I agree with this. I would pick a Riff Raff for that. When I hear the phrase NWOBHM, I think the 1979-1981 period - Saxon, Diamond Head etc etc. Maybe its a question of interpretation.
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V's, Explorer's and ML's... rock. Pointy = 80's.
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That's my idea of Tele-heaven - a better bridge and a hot humbucker.
*boner*
~ Strat body shape.
~ Reversed headstock.
~ Striking colour, ie, ice white.
~ Double-locking trem of some sort, be it Kahler or Floydy or Edgeofsomesort.
~ Hooooot humbucker.
Ahem, something like this!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2741/80sstratxw6.gif)
I even added a toggleswitch on the top horn.
*touches self*
How did you make that please?
http://www.jcfonline.com/resources/csgen/JCFCustomShop.htm
there you go mate, click on the shape and then go grazy! lots of fun to be had!
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bah! i will jump on this thread ;)
more types of guitars than superstrats were available with one pickup in the 80s...!
The 80s were definately a special time - it seems everyone has a different memory and interpretation of it. Was discsussing abit with Jonathan yesterday.
Metal-wise I prefer the early 80s... Not so keen on the over-glammed late 80s period. But there was some great electronic music that came out in this time.
I don't even have any memory of the 80's :lol:
I just think V's and Explorers look so big, don't really like the shapes.
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just about done with mine - could only be more 80's if i did the headstock white as well
sorry about bad pics but left my camera somewhere else
Clicky:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/th_DSC01770.jpg) (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/DSC01770.jpg)(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/th_DSC01769.jpg) (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/DSC01769.jpg)
Still need to finalise string spacing and nut as well as giving the frets a final polish but it all seems pretty good so far. Its a holydiver in the bridge and a kahler hybrid trem that can be locked off as a hardtail.
its a single volume control but i couldnt resist putting a series/parallel switch on the push/pull to basically give two power settings
the neck is a 5 piece, maple wenge and walnut neck and the tenon extends all teh way to the bridge pickup cavity... basically the thing is very solid
still wondering about things like a chrome pickup ring or a black scratchplate but that would take away from the 80's vibe - might try it anyway
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I would think ---
For most old school or NWOBHM, Holy Diver
Not to be a troll, but I'm not sure I agree with this. I would pick a Riff Raff for that. When I hear the phrase NWOBHM, I think the 1979-1981 period - Saxon, Diamond Head etc etc. Maybe its a question of interpretation.
TROLL! PDT_008
I don't think I need to state my interpretation of the new wave, it's pretty well documented what my knowledge base on the subject is.
Having both of those pickups, I will still stand by my original statement. The HD does most new wave tones. The Riff Raff will only get so saturated before it breaks apart.
Saxon, Angel Witch, Tokyo Blade, Elixir, Chariot, Maiden, Def Lep, Diamond Head ... will one pickup nail ALL of them? No, of course not.
But the Holy Diver will do a lot more justice to it than the Riff Raff.
This is, of course, IMHO, IIRC, etc etc etc
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i went with holydiver in mine. It seemed like it had to be a holydiver
very impressed so far
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Nice guitar, Wez! :D
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People have already said the necessary stuff you need like woods etc.
But for pickups theres only 1 way to go, HOLY DIVER! It's just pure 80's.
You seem to be forgetting the Rebel Yell http://www.netmusicians.org/files/70-topgun1.mp3
Top Gun theme does not lie :P I guess the Rebel Yell is more for the cheesy side of 80s whilst the Holy Diver is more metal though..
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OK, it's not really 80s, and actually I should post a pic of Gary Moore's white Charvel, but at the moment I want so bad one of these to put a Holy Diver in:
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I think that's a bannable offense hunter...best clear it with Tim first. PDT_029
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People have already said the necessary stuff you need like woods etc.
But for pickups theres only 1 way to go, HOLY DIVER! It's just pure 80's.
You seem to be forgetting the Rebel Yell http://www.netmusicians.org/files/70-topgun1.mp3
Top Gun theme does not lie :P I guess the Rebel Yell is more for the cheesy side of 80s whilst the Holy Diver is more metal though..
I already got a RY set, so I would want something different :)
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OK, it's not really 80s, and actually I should post a pic of Gary Moore's white Charvel, but at the moment I want so bad one of these to put a Holy Diver in:
pffft.... a real man would go for the pink model
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OK, it's not really 80s, and actually I should post a pic of Gary Moore's white Charvel, but at the moment I want so bad one of these to put a Holy Diver in:
pffft.... a real man would go for the pink model
+1
When i get a free £300 quid ill get that and mod it with a Nailbomb or something hilariously powerful and Pink inlays! Whoah!
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Oh bloody hell, now I'm getting Hello Kitty Strat GAS... :roll:
And yes, it would have to be the pink one. Black is a cop-out.
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Can't find the one pickup one, but this is a weird thing
(http://mayzan.com/i/dvd/mayzan.jpg)
Those Kitty strats do look like they would be fun :P
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Can't find the one pickup one, but this is a weird thing
Weird? She's adorable!
Oh, the guitar? It seems to be based on Robbin Crosby's "Robbin-bird" Jacksons, doesn't it? I never thought the body shape looked quite right converted into a super-"strat".
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/11.jpg)
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I still love Hunters Kamikaze (?) withe the reverse pointy headstock...not the finish I'd go for but..mmmmmm tasty
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I still love Hunters Kamikaze (?) withe the reverse pointy headstock...not the finish I'd go for but..mmmmmm tasty
TO's George Lynch-style guitar?
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that's the one...luuuuurvley
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Slash had a couple of those Jackson Firebirds before he got onto Les Pauls. i think you see him with one on the inner sleeve of either Appetite For Destruction or Lies. you can also see him with a BC Rich Warlock, another eighties metal axe!
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OK, it's not really 80s, and actually I should post a pic of Gary Moore's white Charvel, but at the moment I want so bad one of these to put a Holy Diver in:
pffft.... a real man would go for the pink model
+1
When i get a free £300 quid ill get that and mod it with a Nailbomb or something hilariously powerful and Pink inlays! Whoah!
o the humanity!! PDT_038
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OK, it's not really 80s, and actually I should post a pic of Gary Moore's white Charvel, but at the moment I want so bad one of these to put a Holy Diver in:
Me too :oops:
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IMO, i think holy diver is definately the answer for NWOBHM. I have a Fender Deluxe Stratocaster with some seymour duncan hotrails in. Cream coloured with a bright gold pickguard, and thats a pretty damned 80's sounding guitar, very iron maiden ^^
that sounds similar to the holy diver IMO, the holy diver being that much better though obviously :D
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I've said for years that a Hello Kitty Strat fitted with a hot humbucker and a Floyd Rose would be the most rawk guitar of all-time.
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GMW Charvel Replica...I thank you....
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+1 :D
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Woaaahhhh :o
This thread just makes me want another Charvel :(