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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: noodleplugerine on March 06, 2008, 01:15:10 AM

Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 06, 2008, 01:15:10 AM
Just was looking at some 7 string guitars recently, and wondered if BKP made replacement pickups for the block shape EMG 707s and the ilk? It would be a shame shelling out on a guitar and finding out I have to stick with them =/
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 06, 2008, 07:55:22 PM
I guess not then?
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: Will on March 06, 2008, 08:16:27 PM
Rewind?
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 06, 2008, 08:25:37 PM
I guess that's the only option =(
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: Transcend on March 06, 2008, 09:27:27 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
I guess that's the only option =(


No it should be fine.

all 707s are is a normal 7 string humbucker with longer legs in a bass pickup casing.
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: il˙ti on March 06, 2008, 10:33:10 PM
Or get mounting rings to cover the big holes?
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 07, 2008, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: ilyti
Or get mounting rings to cover the big holes?


Would that work?
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: WezV on March 08, 2008, 12:55:01 AM
you would have to check with tim, but seven string pickups that fit the 707 route is a great idea.  even if BKP cant make you something that does fit its not that much work to enlarge the routes so a BKP 7 string P-up would fit
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: il˙ti on March 08, 2008, 02:05:25 PM
Accidentally, I stumbled across this on sevenstring.org:

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-org-workbench/20401-tech-emg-707-lundgren-m7-swap.html

If BKPs are the same size as the lundgren, it should work perfectly. With a mounting ring, it would look less messy though. Just put a small piece of wood in each corner of the cavity for the mounting ring screws.
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: _Rebourne_ on March 10, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
I also want the same thing, however Tim said that they aren't going to make any.  Not even for more money :(.  I can understand though, if they didn't already have a casing it would be pretty cost ineffective to manufacture a new one just for a few people.

But perhaps if there are enough of us it might be worth it, you could shoot him in email to let him know more people are intereasted.

That EMG to Lundgren swap looks awful and ring mounting pickups negitivly affects the tone and makes the guitar more sensitive to vibrations.

Hopefuly the new blackouts force EMG to make standard sized pickups and phase out the old bass sized 7 string pickups so routing won't pose a problem for 7 string replacements.
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: ericsabbath on March 16, 2008, 01:01:20 PM
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/HUMR3/7String_Humbucker_Ring.html
http://www.fretsonthenet.com/other_parts.htm#7_string_string_pickup_rings!
Title: Replacing 7 Strings:
Post by: WezV on March 16, 2008, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: _Rebourne_
ring mounting pickups negitivly affects the tone and makes the guitar more sensitive to vibrations.


there are a few million guitars in the world that disagree

if anything ring mounting isolates  the pickup from the bodies vibration because it flows like this.  Body vibration  - pickup ring screws - pickup ring - height adjustment screws + spring or tubing - pickup. os something along those lines anyway.  The point is that the plastic ring and spring or tube do quite a bit to stop the bodies vibration affecting the pickup - or at least reduce it anyway

direct mounted pickups are more sensitive to the bodies vibration because the vibrations take a shorter path to the pickup.  Body vibration - pickup mounting screws - pickup.  Obviously this can be affected by what method you use to get the pickup to the right height - foam or springs or tubing..... but its still a more direct route which means the pickup will vibrate more and a vibrating pickup sensing a vibrating string will sound different to the other method.

i wouldnt say either method was better than the other but its true that they give slightly different results