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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ted on March 07, 2008, 02:07:10 PM

Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Ted on March 07, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.1.3.1.1-216-27

The speakers must be worth half this amount alone?!
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: indysmith on March 07, 2008, 02:10:14 PM
WOW. Bet that thing sounds hideous. Probably better than a minimat though ;)

In fact I think I'll go try one out later on - what've I got to lose?
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 07, 2008, 02:11:20 PM
Haha it's too good to be true, it must sound cr@p. But if it doesn't' then....


DAMN!
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: gwEm on March 07, 2008, 02:12:43 PM
looks like they do a valve junior clone too... so maybe this is like the epiphone "so-cal" or whatever its called.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: gwEm on March 07, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
YES - it is!!

http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=EG01535

Reports please ;)
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Scotty477 on March 07, 2008, 02:19:11 PM
I think that Grainger are a product name for amps commisioned by Sound Control - much the same as Legacy guitars.

One of the Sound Control sales guys I spoke to claimed that Legacy and Grainger were built in Chinese Epiphone plants. That's probably a load of b@llocks but it's what he claimed  :D
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Scotty477 on March 07, 2008, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: gwEm
YES - it is!!

http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=EG01535

Reports please ;)


That's interesting ... maybe the Sound Control guy wasn't talking b@llocks after all.

Grainger are rebranded Epiphones?
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Adam.M on March 07, 2008, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Machinehead
Quote from: gwEm
YES - it is!!

http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=EG01535

Reports please ;)


That's interesting ... maybe the Sound Control guy wasn't talking b@llocks after all.

Grainger are rebranded Epiphones?


Yeah, pretty much, they've been around for ages! im sure people on here were talking about them before?
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Adam.M on March 07, 2008, 02:34:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHUjNcimakI

they don't sound too bad...

good backup?
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Philly Q on March 07, 2008, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: Machinehead
Grainger are rebranded Epiphones?


Yeah, that guy on eBay who sells modded VJs also uses Graingers sometimes (and Harley Benton GA-5s).
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: gwEm on March 07, 2008, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: Adam.M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHUjNcimakI

they don't sound too bad...

good backup?


very tempting...
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 07, 2008, 02:58:24 PM
that's gotta be worth it for £200. The one i tried sounded decent- a budget valve amp. little more background noise than i'd ideally like, but it would make a decent budget valve rock amp.

i thought they were not-bad value at £400. At £200, I'd be considering it, only I have (literally- we have no family room any more because of all my guitar gear  :oops:  :lol: ) no room for another 4x12.

EDIT: can someone please explain to me, though, how sound control are terrible value 95% of the time, but then every so often have crazy-good deals? the peavey windsor was/is £200 there too. I guess that's how it works when you're a big chain...
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: gwEm on March 07, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
i'm considering it. better valves would help the noise.

boll0cks... :/

i'm going to leave it, even if that is a great bargain. i liked the sound in that video. i need to be more strong with these things.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: blue on March 07, 2008, 03:02:28 PM
see, i'd be real tempted by that, but they only deliver to UK mainland! although, i suppose i should be grateful for that, cause it saves me £200 and means i don't have to find the space for a big smelly 4x12  :roll:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 07, 2008, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: blue
see, i'd be real tempted by that, but they only deliver to UK mainland! although, i suppose i should be grateful for that, cause it saves me £200 and means i don't have to find the space for a big smelly 4x12  :roll:


ah sweet, that saves me the temptation too.  :lol:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: kellar on March 07, 2008, 03:30:53 PM
That particular one looks just like the Epi So Cal, and if it is anything like it than I would snatch it up for that price. I tried the So Cal out a few times and really liked it, has a very deep reverb channel.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: apmaman on March 07, 2008, 04:31:41 PM
I was going to get one of those, but then I looked at my bank balance :(
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: indysmith on March 07, 2008, 04:33:04 PM
i sorta feel like i should buy it, because it's such good value... but i don't want it. And i doubt i could sell it for more... screw it
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: opprobrium_9 on March 07, 2008, 05:25:40 PM
that epi sounds really nice!  For what it is of course.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: HTH AMPS on March 07, 2008, 08:14:23 PM
thats a fantastic deal - I bet you could turn that 1/2 stack round for a £100 profit on evilbay.  

someone will pay £150 for the head and the same for the cab if listed in seperate auctions, surely.  or even £100 for the cab and £200 for the head.

I'm buying ten of 'em  :wink:  :lol:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 07, 2008, 09:43:28 PM
^ yeah, sound control is funny- often they're relatively expensive, but then every so often they come along with a killer deal.

i've told the dudes at ultimate-guitar. Just to let you know, I hope that's ok, ted- i just figured i might as well let people know about it.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: Hell Hound on March 08, 2008, 12:55:37 AM
Damn! I'd have bought one if it wasn't UK mainland only :(
I could've done a 2/3 stack with my 2x12" for cheap :lol:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 08, 2008, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: blue
see, i'd be real tempted by that, but they only deliver to UK mainland! although, i suppose i should be grateful for that, cause it saves me £200 and means i don't have to find the space for a big smelly 4x12  :roll:


I just checked on the soundcontrol website, and it says that they ship anywhere within the UK.

Now, it wouldn't be the first time that a business didn't actually realise what the UK meant, but it sounds to me like they ship to Northern Ireland. Based on what they've written on their website, anyway.

 :lol:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: blue on March 09, 2008, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: blue
see, i'd be real tempted by that, but they only deliver to UK mainland! although, i suppose i should be grateful for that, cause it saves me £200 and means i don't have to find the space for a big smelly 4x12  :roll:


I just checked on the soundcontrol website, and it says that they ship anywhere within the UK.

Now, it wouldn't be the first time that a business didn't actually realise what the UK meant, but it sounds to me like they ship to Northern Ireland. Based on what they've written on their website, anyway.

 :lol:


yeah, i read that too, but then i put the amp in my cart (just to see how much shipping would cost you understand  :roll:  )  and that's when it said mainland only.  you might be right, but i was prepared to be easily discouraged!  a bargain may be hard to pass up, but sometimes you just know you shouldn't  :wink:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 09, 2008, 08:15:11 PM
Quote from: blue

yeah, i read that too, but then i put the amp in my cart (just to see how much shipping would cost you understand  :roll:  )  and that's when it said mainland only.  you might be right, but i was prepared to be easily discouraged!  a bargain may be hard to pass up, but sometimes you just know you shouldn't  :wink:


ah ok, that's further than I went, i didn't put anything in the cart, i was just going by the help page.

I can't stand the companies which take the piss out of us northern irish folk. i mean, how hard would it be to say in the FAQ section, "we don't ship outside the mainland UK"?

 :evil:  :x

EDIT: I should add that there's no such thing as "mainland UK". "Mainland UK" is great britain. The UK means "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Get it right, FFS!

Gah. It just annoys me.  With good reason. :x  :evil:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: blue on March 09, 2008, 10:34:41 PM
yep, there are a couple of firms i've nearly bought things off who charged, say £5 for postage, but it was gonna be maybe £60 to Northern Ireland!!! but theni e-mailed a firm once asking was it any extra for here, as their site stated Mainland, and he said that as far as the post office is concerned Northern Ireland IS mainland! it is included as part of the UK and postage should cost the same.

i think a lot of people just can't be bothered going to any extra effort so just make it that we won't bother them.
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: dave_mc on March 09, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
yeah, it's really daft, and not helped by the fact that a lot of people don't know, and don't seem to want to know. and also seem to consider it your problem to find out, even though you're buying off them (not talking about any businesses or businesspeople who post on this forum, of course- i mean bigger concerns)- you almost wonder why you're giving them your business! it's like the customer's always right, unless you're from northern ireland, in which case you're a second-class citizen and we don't want your money...  :?

And as you say, if you post with the post office or parcelforce, the postage is the same... a lot of the time I think it's just an excuse to make an extra tenner profit at our expense... because let's face it, odds are it's still cheaper than what we pay here (or it's just not available over here)...

  :cry:
Title: Who the fudge are Grainger ?
Post by: nfe on March 10, 2008, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: Machinehead

One of the Sound Control sales guys I spoke to claimed that Legacy and Grainger were built in Chinese Epiphone plants. That's probably a load of b@llocks but it's what he claimed  :D


This is half true, the Grainger's are just the Epiphone models with a different name on, the higher priced Legacy guitars are also Epiphones, only with EMG HZ pickups in, Soundcontrol's commisioning of Epi clones has been a major factor to their fall out with Rosetti, leading toward their buying in of Gibson and Epiphone from other Gibson distributors and in the end, Rosetti's loss of the Gibson deal.

Or so the grapevine suggests...The fact that a very recently departed Soundcontrol director is now the head of Gibson UK might have an impact in the future though, when Soundcontrol are buying in the exact same products with a different name on for a vastly lower price than their old pal is selling them.