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Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 08, 2008, 07:33:04 PM
So I wanted to share my oddyssey with you guys. In case someone is interested in doing quick recordings in good quality on rehearsals, gigs, as an audio notebook, etc - this is what I did.

I looked at these recorders:

Zoom H2 (cheapest, around 199 EUR)
Zoom H4  299 EUR
Tascam DR-1 299 EUR
Olympus LS-10 384 EUR
Sony PCM-D50 588 EUR (too expensive :cry:)

In diverse forums and websites I could find some user reviews and clips, and this is my summary:

Sony is the best, by far, but quite expensive (hey but all is relative, there are people who pay more for just a microphone ... ). If I were more serious about it and wouldn't be able to record superior quality with my studio stuff, I would have gotten the Sony.

Olympus was very tempting, still on the expensive side, but sexy looking and nice features. Went to a shop and had the drum guy beat the hell out of a Gretsch set. The shop owner and I were unable to record without distortion. This is not what i expect from such an expensive product.

H2 and H4 are both great in terms of features and price. However, all clips I heard were not so good. I want an open and dynamic sound and the Zooms didn't give me that.

So, settled for the Tascam. Not sexy. Not many fancy features. Not many supplied accessories. But has a Li-Ion battery, is easy to use and sounds really good. For 299 EUR this is quite a catch (incl. 2 GB SD card) and it does 24 bit recording, and the internal mics a really good.

Here I did a quick recording in my room without much trial and error right out of the box. Looking forward to the next rehearsal.


http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/dr1.mp3


(http://www.tascam.de/pics/dr-1_v.jpg)
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 09, 2008, 12:28:53 AM
Thanks for posting that, I too am looking at getting something like that for quick off the cuff recordings of my band os of new song ideas.I was thinking of trying oout the Zoom H4 and the Edirol and only recently heard of the Tascam. I don't want to be messing around and I have heard that the Zoom is a bit of a chore to operate.
Title: Re: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 09, 2008, 01:08:43 AM
OMG - I WANT ONE!
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: gwEm on March 09, 2008, 03:53:26 AM
time marches on, new stuff seems to come out all the time. good luck with the tascam!
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 09, 2008, 06:23:15 AM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
Thanks for posting that, I too am looking at getting something like that for quick off the cuff recordings of my band os of new song ideas.I was thinking of trying oout the Zoom H4 and the Edirol and only recently heard of the Tascam. I don't want to be messing around and I have heard that the Zoom is a bit of a chore to operate.


I find the Tascam rather easy to use, as it doesn't have much stuff that is confusing the main function. There are some Effects, but they have a dedicated button to switch on and off.

Then it has an overdub function. Not like the H4 which has 4 tracks, but rather like you record a stereo track, and then you can play on top of it and mix the new stuff in. Kinda like an old fashioned tape studio. Probably gotta be Tascam, the master of tape studios, to be coming up with that.

An interesting thing that struck me (also and already when i got a Camcorder) is the basic noise level of rooms when you use sensitive mics. Normally I close mic guitar, so noisy rooms are not an issue. But with this now I have to be careful with levelling and surroundings, as I live close to a busy street, and you can really hear the traffic noise floor.

Like with any digital devices, model maintenance is also important. I have had a look who is updating their firmware and it seems some do, some don't. Installed the Tascam 1.02 update today, which gives another record base level (mic preamplification level), they stick to basic and essential stuff, which is a good thing.

Regarding that R09, I haven't tested it. But Roland stuff usually sounds great, so i would expect it to rock. But then it looks pretty much like the Tascam but is 100 EUR more. This 30% markup would be OK if the sound is superior.

Waiting will always be a good thing with sth new like this (unless you are an old prick like me who doesn't have any more time to lose).

This is a volatile market. Everyone is coming up with stuff now and Zoom is losing its competitive advantage. I suppose that at next NAMM there will be the first good quality 99 EUR price point devices (from Behringer LOL) and that the 199 price point becomes the most competitive with upper range stuff and that hi-end will start from 299 where we now have mid quality stuff.

ops, now I have posted way too much text here ops :roll:
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 09, 2008, 09:58:52 AM
Thanks Hunter.Your thoughts are similar to mine in these things.I like my gadgets to be quick and easy to use and to emulate the good ol days of tape.Not everyone's cup of tea but I find it helps my creative juices.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 09, 2008, 10:36:38 AM
I'll do some recording in LOUD environment on the next band rehearsal, which will be in a week
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Elliot on March 09, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
I have a H4 - to be honest I don't find it that hard to use the 4 track setting at all.  You just turn it to 4 track mode and press button 1, 2, 3, 4 depending on the track.  Many reviewers of these products seem to be people using them for recording bird sounds etc, not musos so they fall into the 'can't work the VCR remote control' category.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 09, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
Elliott, what about using it for those moments of inspiration with a great new idea to record very quickly and easily- that is what I'd be looking for -plus to take to rehearsals or gigs. The H4 appealed because of the bundling with cubase . The 4 track mode was not too important but was a plus. I guess I should try them all out and see which one suits.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 09, 2008, 09:14:42 PM
Thanks for posting that info, it was a subject I had often wondered about.  :D
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: broken cord on March 13, 2008, 12:52:22 AM
I too am considering taking the plunge, they just seem so convenient.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Adam.M on March 13, 2008, 02:23:51 AM
I've just been listening to Zoom H2 reviews and i am extremely impressed... especially considering the size of the thing.

With the H4 i don't think you can do 360 degree recording for say recording a jam session but with the H2 you can, sounds more 'dynamic and open' too compared to the H4.

I'll have to get a link to those reviews, they're on my Desktop PC which sounds louder than the passing areoplanes.  :roll:
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 13, 2008, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: Adam.M
I've just been listening to Zoom H2 reviews and i am extremely impressed... especially considering the size of the thing.

With the H4 i don't think you can do 360 degree recording for say recording a jam session but with the H2 you can, sounds more 'dynamic and open' too compared to the H4.

I'll have to get a link to those reviews, they're on my Desktop PC which sounds louder than the passing areoplanes.  :roll:


yeah it is tempting the H2, but all recordings I heard sounded processed and undynamic. I expect the Tascam to give good results when I place it in the middle of the band, but we shall see next week.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Elliot on March 13, 2008, 08:13:57 PM
Beatle - the H4 is easy to use as a field recorder - press the red button and play loudly to set the auto level (to stop clipping) and press it again - and its done.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: 38thBeatle on March 13, 2008, 10:42:01 PM
Thanks Elliott-but just when I start thinking of getting myself a  little toy, one of my sons needs a loan and it falls by the wayside! I will get one of these gizmos though one day.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Daniel G on March 14, 2008, 03:40:18 AM
After this clip and the one in the players forum hunter, i can honestly say i can't wait to hear how that nifty little thing will hold up in a band enviroment, if it does well, i might just have to go out and buy me one  :wink:
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 22, 2008, 04:29:12 AM
Recorded during last rehearsal on the new "low" setting for the DR-1 (firmware update). It was quite loud in the room, but nice quality. There is a slight issue with the result in that the waveforms are not symmetric, so they aren't using the bits in all directions and you need to maximise with some kind of compressor/limiter combination to get proper vokume, maybe it was the placement in the room that caused the issue (here I used PSP Vintage Warmer).

The singer had a cold so he didn't give it all and kept it an octave down. And I bummed some parts of the solo :roll:    

So please don't judge the performance but the recording quality for a "one step set and forget" device like this.

http://www.thegutbusters.com/rehearsal20march/danicali2.mp3
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: waves on March 22, 2008, 09:23:50 AM
That is awesome. Really nice quality. Solid playing too and lovely tone. I might have to look into one of those.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Daniel G on March 22, 2008, 12:57:31 PM
That sounds REALLY good.
Well, that's that then, i'm gonna have to buy me a Tascam.  :D
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 22, 2008, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Daniel G
That sounds REALLY good.
Well, that's that then, i'm gonna have to buy me a Tascam.  :D


+1
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 22, 2008, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: Daniel G
That sounds REALLY good.
Well, that's that then, i'm gonna have to buy me a Tascam.  :D


haha, I should probably open a music stuff shop, seems I am selling stuff rather well
 :lol:
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 23, 2008, 09:44:28 AM
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 23, 2008, 10:41:50 AM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: DeanS on March 23, 2008, 11:14:28 AM
Well, that sounds great considering how it was recorded- I'm impressed!
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 23, 2008, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.


What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 23, 2008, 03:41:04 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.


What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 23, 2008, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: hunter on March 23, 2008, 06:42:19 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 23, 2008, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Tellboy on March 27, 2008, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 27, 2008, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: Tellboy
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
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Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.



I have nothing relevent to say other than....

Woah, big quote.
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: maverickf1jockey on March 27, 2008, 09:39:04 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: Tellboy
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
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Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.



I have nothing relevent to say other than....

Woah, big quote.
It's like a pyramid...
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 27, 2008, 10:28:35 PM
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Quote from: Tellboy
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Quote from: hunter
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That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.



I have nothing relevent to say other than....

Woah, big quote.
It's like a pyramid...


It most certainly is, like Stan Laurel would say. (who? for those under 25!)

I'm going to hold out for Tascam's kit. Any how a tripod mount should be a 1/4 Whitworth thread and a windsock could be fashioned from a thick sock, thus saving money and inviting other contributors with their ideas to make the pyramid bigger!
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: MDV on June 16, 2008, 04:32:47 PM
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That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.



I have nothing relevent to say other than....

Woah, big quote.
It's like a pyramid...


It most certainly is, like Stan Laurel would say. (who? for those under 25!)

I'm going to hold out for Tascam's kit. Any how a tripod mount should be a 1/4 Whitworth thread and a windsock could be fashioned from a thick sock, thus saving money and inviting other contributors with their ideas to make the pyramid bigger!


Good idea!

(I just wanted to add to the monster-quote!)
Title: Got meself one of those all-in-one digital recorders
Post by: Perandor on June 17, 2008, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: MDV
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: Tellboy
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Johnny Mac
That recording sounds great hunter!
I want one of these, for lots of things. With the midi capabilities of the Feline custom I'm getting you could have all kinds of sound samples recorded by this Tascam and really get out there, dogs barking, seagulls squawking, trains, rivers, traffic.....oh dear...... the croation lesbian neighbours having an orgasm with a kangol breaker plugged into my electric.....no...no..not that... :lol: ....:roll:


Hm, what you describe is field recording. I haven't tested the DR-1 outside and while moving. I heard that the handling noises are a problem, so is wind. Not sure if the DR-1 is the best choice for that particular application. I think it's the best price/value for loud band stuff inside and on a stand.



What about some kind of foam muffler over the microphone like those giant things news crews have?

Do you know of any units that are good for field recording?


Well I think state of the art is the Sony PCM-D50. I guess it might even be worth the additional $$ (around 580 EUR). There is a nice furry mic protection available but that costs pretty extra.

Don't get me wrong, the DR-1 is not bad, but I think you might be better off with the Edirol or the Olympus for those applications. But not sure, you should try some (like I did) before buying. Let those shops do sth for their money.


The Sony is very expensive but does sound like an amazing piece of technology.

The Olympus LS-10 sounds good value and you get a built in wind proof jacket.

Thanks for sharing this purchase with us all Hunter, I was totally unaware of these things! They sound like a lot of fun to use. This is a good thing for bootleggers, bands, jounos, podcasters, the list goes on and on.  8)


Welcome. Be careful with the Olympus, it does not cope well with high volumes, at least it didn't get a clean take of a drumset played with lots of punch.


Ok thanks for the tip.  :D  Would you think your Tascam would cope well outdoors with a wind jacket on? It does seem like great value for money.


I contacted Tascam about the AK1 accessory kit for the DR1....

"The accessory kit for the DR-1 is not available yet, it will have a wind shield, tripod and mic stand adaptor.  The price is yet unconfirmed but will probably be between 20 – 30 pounds."

Pity it does not have an existing tripod/mike stand mount.



I have nothing relevent to say other than....

Woah, big quote.
It's like a pyramid...


It most certainly is, like Stan Laurel would say. (who? for those under 25!)

I'm going to hold out for Tascam's kit. Any how a tripod mount should be a 1/4 Whitworth thread and a windsock could be fashioned from a thick sock, thus saving money and inviting other contributors with their ideas to make the pyramid bigger!


Good idea!

(I just wanted to add to the monster-quote!)


Ha, I wanted to add the huge quote too!  Wonder how long we could get it?    Now Afgan Dave jumps in...