Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Brow on March 10, 2008, 11:33:57 PM
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Hello.
The questions in the title really, what BKPs do you have in your Vs?
I'm looking for ideas for pickups for my Faded Flying V. I've spoken to Tim about this already, so I have a good idea what will work, but just wondered what you guys were using in yours :)
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i had a miracle man in my 82 rocket roll II and it sounded really good it just seemed to lack bass in that guitar
could have been because it was basswood.
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I have a Black Dog bridge and Stormy Monday neck in my white Edwards V, but it's not the greatest combo (in that particular guitar).
I'd say Riff Raff bridge and SM or Mule neck would be better. Or go high-output with a set of Painkillers?
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I've got a ceramic Warpig and Holy Diver in mine, but it's not your typical Gibson V with a mahogany body/neck and rosewood board.
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epi '58 V A4 Mule / A2 Stormy Monday. Individually the pickups work excellently, but they don't work the best as a team
epi goth original dirty fingers. very cool pickups, but lack a bit of subtlety. bass response a bit too much for me - but its a dark guitar
gordon smith some overwound humbucker sized P90s. this guitar has really cool sounding mids! i wish that they weren't overwound, its a simdgeon too dark.
greco A5 / A4 mules. What a set this is!! Highy recommendable.
gibson Riff Raff set. Nails 'strangers in the night' tone. Neck is cold when clean though - but its got the bite for schenker soloing. I think Riff Raff / Stormy Monday would be a fine combo
feline Cold Sweat set. Neck pickup is marvellous. At first i liked the bridge - if you use it right it nails 'defenders of the faith' sort of tones. bridge is very subtle clean - like it alot. its a great vintage hot vibe. bass response is a bit flabby though on the bridge - so...
Miracle Man / Cold Sweat. The Miracle Man bridge tightens the bass response marvellously. Sounds rather modern though. Might try a Rebel Yell set in this Feline one day.
hamer DiMarzio Super Distortion / PAF. I got vintage pickups from the 70s and potted them myself. Even if they are proper vintage ones, they aren't in the same league as these other pickups. Rather nasally mids, similar to first Iron Maiden album.
If you want a vintage set, I'd go for A5/A4 mules or Riff Raff/Stormy Monday. As you can see, I've not much experience with the higher gain models, but miracle man will certinally be fine.
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And what did Tim said about, Mr Brow?
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Miracle Man in my Gibson '67 reissue
Warpig in my Gibson Gothic
For some reason I didn't bother to replace the neck pickups in either of my Vs (maybe it's because I hardly use it). One day I'll get a couple of Cold Sweat necks for them...
Also, they're not "proper" Flying-Vs but:
Painkiller/Cold Sweat in my Jackson KV2
Holy Diver set in my Jackson RR1T (probably my favourite guitar)
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Cheers for your replies guys.
Tbh, I don't really know what sound I want from this V. I pretty much have the vintage side covered with the Mules in a LP, Black Dog/Riff Raff in my Gordon Smith and Crawler/IT/IT in my USA Strat. As well as the 'higher gain' side with the Cold Sweat/Trilogy in my Charvel and (maybe) Nailbombs or Holy Divers in my Ibanez S470.
And what did Tim said about, Mr Brow?
Before I spoke to Tim, I was thinking of a Mississippi Queen neck, but wasn't sure on the bridge pickup. I spoke to Tim and he said that a MQ neck should work fine, aswell as suggesting something like a Mule or a Riff Raff as sometimes higher output pickups can sound dark in Vs.
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well, the mississippi queen neck will be great, thats for sure. seems like you're thinking on nice lines.
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I've got a set of calibrated chrome nailbombs in my Dean 79 series V, they sound great!
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i had a miracle man bridge in my dean v for a while and it sounded good, im looking to put a set of mules in it soon so i'll keep you posted.
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Thanks for the info guys.
Seems like alot of you have high output pickups in yours, do any of you find them to sound dark with higher output pickups in?
i had a miracle man bridge in my dean v for a while and it sounded good, im looking to put a set of mules in it soon so i'll keep you posted.
What did you not like about the MM to make you want to try something else?
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Nothing it sounded great, just decided to turn my tone down a notch and there wasnt the need for all that gain anymore.
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Nothing it sounded great, just decided to turn my tone down a notch and there wasnt the need for all that gain anymore.
AH, fair enough then :)
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at first i really enjoyed the cold sweats in the feline... as time goes on i'm thinking more and more that they're far too dark.
as i commented before - if found the miracle man to be fine :)
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I've been playing the Cold Sweat bridge in my Charvel today and realised just how good a crunch and edge it's got to it's tone. Should be really great for that cheesy 70s and 80s rock thing I'm looking to do :roll:
So now I'm probably going to keep the Charvel, which also affects the pickups I put in my Ibanez as well as the V :lol:
I s'ppose it'd help if I knew what sort of tone I actually wanted from this V.
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The Ceramic warpig in meh custom RAN...
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/29074/2260393600100154862S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2260393600100154862ZDwpAE)
(http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/24847/2097973540100154862S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2097973540100154862sGMywt)
It's a mean axe :twisted:
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The Ceramic warpig in meh custom RAN...
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/29074/2260393600100154862S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2260393600100154862ZDwpAE)
(http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/24847/2097973540100154862S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2097973540100154862sGMywt)
It's a mean axe :twisted:
That's a great looking guitar!
I'm not sure I need anything with that much power though TBH
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what woods is the V made from? is it an OFR?
does look good :) a bit like a modernised john birch with those pickups. how would you describe the tone?
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what woods is the V made from? is it an OFR?
does look good :) a bit like a modernised john birch with those pickups. how would you describe the tone?
Alder body, maple neck, ebony fretboard and yes, it's an OFR.
The tone is a bit hard to describe. It's kinda chubby, it has that sharp and solid edge of a ceramic magnet but at the same time it growls like crazy, it sounds freakin' HUGE. There's a lot of bass so you get a really nice thump from it, but it's still tight so it pretty much covers any heavier/faster styles of music :)
I just love it! 8)
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I ordered the pickups for my V today..........
I ended up with a black covered Riff Raff for the bridge and a Black Mississippi Queen for the neck.
This leaves me to pick between Rebel Yells, Nail Bombs, Holy Divers and Painkillers for my Ibanez :roll:
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a quick note, put the cold sweat bridge back in the feline, and changed the pots to 1Meg, with no tone control on the bridge. i'm entirely happy with the results.
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a quick note, put the cold sweat bridge back in the feline, and changed the pots to 1Meg, with no tone control on the bridge. i'm entirely happy with the results.
I was thinking of maybe doing that with the bridge Crawler on my LP, but I've always been a bit afraid of 1Meg pots sounding harsh/tinny. I guess if it works with a ceramic pickup it should be OK with an alnico one.
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the difference was somewhat subtle (but just enough) and i wouldn't worry about it sounding tinny. you could always try removing the tone pot first as a little experiment..?
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Yeah, good idea. I don't tend to use the bridge tone control in 2-pickup guitars much anyway.
I could try it while I've still got the cheapo Japanese pots before upgrading to CGE/CTS.
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i dont know what your experience is philly q, but mine with pot quality has been a bit mixed. in my hamer (dimarzio pups), i changed them to cts and noticed almost nothing. being dissapointed, i didn't change pots again.
but i had some spare cts pots, and threw them in my steinberger. i don't know if it was because i was upgrading a guitar with decent pickups in or not, but i did notice an increase in clarity that time.
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I think there's very little, if any, difference in sound or clarity, but what I do always notice is that the "usefulness" of the taper with US pots is far superior. The Japanese pots always seem to be at full volume by about 3, then do nothing at all between 3 and 10.
I like the CGE pots WD sell, they're not as stiff as CTS and seem to work just as well.
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gwEm, could you record a compare in A5 mule V and the Riff Raff V ? :oops:
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gwEm, could you record a compare in A5 mule V and the Riff Raff V ? :oops:
great request!
i'd love to, but unfortunately the A5 mule V is in a different location to the riff raff V :(
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Ok! :)
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Ok! :)
my A5 mule V is one i play often at the moment... i'd like to play that riff raff one again soon though. i had some fun with it. maybe a little swap around is in order....