Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: AngusYoung01 on March 12, 2008, 05:04:09 PM
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Riiighty oh then.
Basically (incase you haven't guessed yet) I'm a massive fan of cheesy 80's rock and metal. At the minute I'm loving Whitesnake, 1987, and am after tones similar to that album. So please recommend me some effects I should get!
Now, heres some things to take into consideration.
- I really only want high quality effects, and I'm not a fan of Boss choruses and that, but their Delay looks tempting.
- Money isn't a major issue, but at the same time I'm not looking for some overly expensive hand made out of platinum pedal, below £150 ideally.
- No multi effects
Also, my amp does this weird horrid noise when I change channels with both using the inbuilt reverb, so I think I'll buy a dedicated reverb pedal so as to not confuse the amp.
So, any suggestions?
I'm definitely looking at -
Chorus
Delay
Reverb
Gear it'll be going through - Charvel Star, Marshall DSL.
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I'd ignore reverb, you don't need it. You need chorus and delay. My suggestion for a chorus is the MXR Stereo Chorus. I have one, it's awesome.
For delay, this is something I'm looking into at the moment. The TC Electronics Nova Delay is highly regarded, but I'm waiting for the new MXR Carbon Copy to come out......
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I was looking at the MXR one a while back, when I bought a cheap one to "make do" until I got a more professional one.
You say its killer then?
And I wouldn't mind a reverb, for more atmospherical stuff and a little mre to leads.
Also, if anyone can think of any way to help get his signature tone (regarding pedals, EQ etc.) please help!
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Anyone got any idea?
Quite bad effect GAS atm :wink:
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Anyone got any idea?
Quite bad effect GAS atm :wink:
For delay, I thoroughly recommend the DD-20 - less tap dancing to change delay presets than the Nova. There are no other real competitors at the same pricepoint, which have the same sort of functionality.
For reverb, go for Verbzilla. Great verb pedal (thrashes the pants off the equivalent EH and Boss offerings, IMHO), but needs it's own isolated power supply, to avoid hum.
I don't like chorus so can't really help you there.
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Isolated power supply, as in one adapter dedicated for the one pedal?
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Gotta have a flanger for 80s rock - maybe an Ibanex FL7 reissue
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What about a Phase 90, thats pretty 80's :?:
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I've got a Verbzilla - I love it to bits, gets my Marshall Superbass into Twin Reverb territory. Hook up a tremolo pedal as well and thats one SEXY tone.
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Is it good then?
Because my local has just got a load of EH stuff in, and it all looks so tastey :o
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Isolated power supply, as in one adapter dedicated for the one pedal?
Yes, either one adapter specifically for the pedal, or an isolated output from a multi-power supply. But daisy chaining the supply for a Verbzilla with other pedals is a recipe for hum.
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You need a wah. Everyone needs a wah.
MXR Stereo Chorus.
Boss DD-2 digital delay.
:)
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You need a wah. Everyone needs a wah.
I don't need a wah, thankyou very much.
BTW, apologies to all. I seem to be in a rather argumentative mood today. I'll try and keep it under control. :cry:
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Ha ha - I'm with you Alan! I own a Crybaby, bought many years ago, but I never use it. That's one effect which, to me, has been so overused it's had its day.
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You need a wah. Everyone needs a wah.
MXR Stereo Chorus.
Boss DD-2 digital delay.
:)
I have a Crybaby, an MXR Distortion + (which I don't use live, as my tone just gets too fat, messy and squeels like anything), and a cheap Arion Chorus.
Also, maybe some overdrive. I'm not sure....
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Danelectro FAB flanger; you can't get better flange for cheaper!
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Hell no, those pedals are horrible.
Money isn't an issue, I'd rather pay more for quality.
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The flange pedal is pretty damn good actually. It's a bit noisy but that adds to the vibe I feel. Plus you can crank it into feed back for BBC radio-esque sound FX.
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All the same, I'm not a fan of them. As far as value for money goes though, they are phenominal - I used to have the Overdrive one.
Also, can anyone recommend me overdrive, I'm looking at the Blackstar ones, and possibly some noise gate?
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For a noise gate, there's either the MXR smartgate or the Boss NS-2, as far as stompboxes are concerned.
I prefer my rackmount DBX 166XL Compressor/Limiter/Gate, but it's pretty expensive when compared to the stompboxes, and from my experience the MXR also does a pretty good job.
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Actually..... rack equipment may be a good idea :o
Although, maybe not. The midi capabilities would be more than welcome, but I dpn't want to shell out loads more than I'd need, and my family don't drive, so getting it around would be difficult.
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Does the RAT have an inbuilt noise gate?
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Check out Visual Sound. They have revamped their entire line and I am itching to try them out. The route 66 and jekyll and hyde are great pedals.
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Another vote for the Line 6 verbzilla here, I'm very happy with mine.
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OK, bought me a DD3 today, awesome pedal! Just need to learn how to use it now.
I think I'll take the previous advice, and forget about a reverb pedal until I'm definite I need one.
So now I'm after -
Chorus
Phase 90 possibly?
Anything else?
Oh, and can I use a normal adapter to run the Boss pedal, as it says only use the PSA ones, but I have one with the same power and polarity, a LYNX one?
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Oh, and can I use a normal adapter to run the Boss pedal, as it says only use the PSA ones, but I have one with the same power and polarity, a LYNX one?
Anyone?
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Yes, any Regulated 9V adapter with the same polarity, which supplies at least the current (mA) that the pedal requires will be fine. Remember it MUST be a "regulated" supply.
Alan
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So now I'm after -
Chorus
Phase 90 possibly?
Sorry for the spam, but I'm selling a Phase 90 if you're interested :)
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So now I'm after -
Chorus
Phase 90 possibly?
Sorry for the spam, but I'm selling a Phase 90 if you're interested :)
How much?
And which one is it?
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You need a wah. Everyone needs a wah.
I don't need a wah, thankyou very much.
BTW, apologies to all. I seem to be in a rather argumentative mood today. I'll try and keep it under control. :cry:
You do... you just don't know that you do. :D
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Check out Visual Sound. They have revamped their entire line and I am itching to try them out. The route 66 and jekyll and hyde are great pedals.
Visual Sound make my all time fave pedal, and if will cover your Chorus/Delay/Echo needs all in one box.
The H20, well made heavy duty construction. Very musical sounds obtainable with just a bit of tweeking, then set and forget.
If size is every an issue, I really like the tiny Guyatone Delay.
Also you said not crazy about Boss, but to be true, the Combo Reverb Delay, the dark grey one, I think maybe it's called RV-X, where X is a number is the swiss army knife box for those with amps without reverb. When I use a non-reverb amp, I can dial in some reverb, when I play through my ampeg with the installed accutronics tank, I dial it in as my 3rd delay pedal. (OK so I like Echo, what's so wrong? LOL)
Another GREAT chorus that I use nearly all the time is from the Univibe guys, It's call the Dunlop Univbe Chorus. This stomper set slow and subtle is killer.
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OK I take back what I said about BOSS, I don't know why I said it :lol:
Bought me a DD3, killer! So no delays are needed. I'm interested in the MXR Chorus as was said earlier though!
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Though it's not chorus, you can get a fairly convincing reverb effect with the DD-3 by setting the delay time at its minimum. I used it for a long time on just that setting.
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tbh, I'm mainly using it for Nuno type leads and things, and filling out rhythm (as our rhythm guitarist is shite, and mimes alot).
What about fulltone effects? The chorus looks hot, but expensive.
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Fulltone makes excellent effects, although I am only familar with their overdrives. For chorus I can highly recommend the Visual Sound H2O. Best chorus out there in my opinion. And with the exchange rate you are looking at getting it much cheaper than before. :)
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Fulltone makes excellent effects, although I am only familar with their overdrives. For chorus I can highly recommend the Visual Sound H2O. Best chorus out there in my opinion. And with the exchange rate you are looking at getting it much cheaper than before. :)
Really?
One of the older ones, or the new updated range (I think?)?
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The older ones you should be able to find on ebay for much cheaper now that they have revamped their line. The H2O is a chorus and echo. That is kind of Visual Sounds thing, they combine multi effects into one pedal.
For example the Jekyll and Hyde (overdrive and distortion) and Route 66 (overdrive and compression). With the new line they have created single stompboxes for some of those effects. So, since you already have a delay you could look at the new V2 chorus. It is basically the H2O without the delay. Check it out.
www.visualsound.net
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The Liquid Chorus looks very cool. The H2O, could I use the echo as reverb?
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The H2O works well as a chorus, reverb, and delay. It's basically 3 pedals in one. You can tweak that thing a million different ways. Kick ass pedal!!
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The H2O works well as a chorus, reverb, and delay. It's basically 3 pedals in one. You can tweak that thing a million different ways. Kick ass pedal!!
This looks like a route worth looking into then!
The kind of chorus I'm after is a warm, Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time type chorus. Will is pull it off?
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From my experience that pedal will pull off most anything. I used it to play Pink Floyd tunes in a cover band, blues, and lots of other stuff. It is very versatile. Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXX6KeBr0vM
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OK, now I really want one, thank you! :D
It looks seriously good. Are they well made, like, regarding the kind of built-like-a-tank-ness MXR pedals have?
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I just got my Jekyll & Hyde the other day and had a chance to test it out at practice. It did pretty good! The overdrive is great and I find myself using it all the time. The distortion side sounds good too but it's noisy like other people have said. Mine is the old one and the new Visual Sound line seems to be much better. They're built more solidly and with the Jekyll & Hyde they added a gate to stop all the noise. The old line is pretty solid as it is so you really can't go wrong and I got mine at a bargain so I'm happy!
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Well then, thats definitely solved my Chorus/ Reverb needs. Cheers dudes!
Any word on the power for Boss pedals though? Does it HAVE to be the PSA adapter?
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Any word on the power for Boss pedals though? Does it HAVE to be the PSA adapter?
Yes, any Regulated 9V adapter with the same polarity, which supplies at least the current (mA) that the pedal requires will be fine. Remember it MUST be a "regulated" supply.
Alan
It doesn't have to be. I use an adapter from my digitech whammy to power my boss pedals with no problems. Just make sure the polarity is the same and that the adapter as at least the same regulated current as the pedal as hamfist stated.
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Any word on the power for Boss pedals though? Does it HAVE to be the PSA adapter?
Yes, any Regulated 9V adapter with the same polarity, which supplies at least the current (mA) that the pedal requires will be fine. Remember it MUST be a "regulated" supply.
Alan
It doesn't have to be. I use an adapter from my digitech whammy to power my boss pedals with no problems. Just make sure the polarity is the same and that the adapter as at least the same regulated current as the pedal as hamfist stated.
Ooops. didn't see that. Thanks Alan, and Lazy lol.
mA?
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mA = milliamps
It should say on the adapter and the pedal. Some pedals don't have them though and if they don't you'd have to look it up.
Here's a Boss adapter for reference.
http://www.instrumentpro.com/image.php?src=/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/bosaca120g.jpg
The part where it lists the output is what you need to look for. Most pedals are 9V and after that it'll list the current value usually in mA. Also the diagram near the bottom with the little + and - symbols shows the polarity. It has to be the same as the pedal it's going into.
Another way of showing the polarity:
(http://www.pedalsnake.com/images/library2/BarrelPolarityDiagramWEB.jpg)
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Ohhh, thats cool. Cheers, never realised what that meant!
Heres all the info on my adapter -
PRI: 230v~50Hz 10.8W
SEC: 9V--- 500mA 4.5VA
Is this ok?
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It depends. What are the specs of the pedal you're going to use it for? If the pedal is rated for less than 500mA and 9V you're good to go. Also make sure the polarity diagram matches up on both.
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One more thing man!!
If you order from Visual Sound they have the One Spot that can power all your pedals. They have special adapters that come with it, you can power nearly anything. You can check it out as well on the website.
Visual Sound pedals are all build very well and the new V2 series has a noise gate on nearly every pedal.
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Sweet! cheers man. I'll look into that because I'll need something to power it all! And I'll make sure to get a V2 H20 then.
Thanks again :D