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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Antag on March 16, 2008, 02:39:03 PM

Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Antag on March 16, 2008, 02:39:03 PM
After my recent neck cleans shootout someone wanted strummed chords, plus I've had a few PMs requesting neck leads, so I decided to combine the two requests into the same clip & improvised this solo over some simple chords.  Sorry not to do something more elaborate (my sweep picking is very untidy & needs a lot of work before I record with it :oops: :)).

I only had time to do the Holy Diver & Cold Sweat, but will try to get to the others if people find this useful...

Guitars
Jackson RR1T w/Holy Diver neck
Jackson KV2 w/Cold Sweat neck

Amp: Engl Savage 120 head, Mesa Recto 2x12" cab (vintage 30s)
Mic/Recording: Shure SM57, Presonus Bluetube DP, Fostex MR16HD

Enjoy :)
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Will on March 16, 2008, 02:54:32 PM
This really does make me wonder what makes a good clean, I seem to have no perception. CS leads are nicest methinks.
Really couldn't tell that much difference for the strummed part :? :(
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: il˙ti on March 16, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
Yeah, sounded very similar. Both seem to be very bright for a neck pickup. Again, the diver sounds like it has more harmonics, which makes it win marginally in my book.
Thanks for the clips, Antag. Good stuff.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Jonny on March 16, 2008, 03:50:16 PM
Sweet Lincoln, the lead was fookin' awesome.

I like the HD strumming and the CS lead, lol
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Pale Rider on March 18, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
I liked both of them! Great tone.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: badgermark on March 19, 2008, 04:12:13 PM
That's excellent! Good thing you done that, you have now turned me off 'modern' neck pickups! Just not for me i think, i'm looking for something rounder and more vintage voiced for the neck.

Appreciated though, and awesome clips! Just helped me eliminate a neck humbucker category!
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: il˙ti on March 19, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
I'm not much into this kind of tone either, but as for pickups you really have to listen to the core of the tone, the vowel-sound coming from it. I'm sure these pickups can do more classic sounds aswell, it's just that these clips have very high gain.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Antag on March 20, 2008, 09:25:14 AM
Quote from: ilyti
...it's just that these clips have very high gain.

That's true - I recorded these neck clips on the same channel of my Engl Savage as I used for my recent Painkiller bridge metal (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11926) clip.  The only setting I changed was to turn down the gain from 8 to 7, so yes there was a lot of gain & it's a very "modern" voiced sound...
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: MrBump on March 20, 2008, 09:48:55 AM
Weird - before listening I was sure I'd prefer the CS clean neck.  But after, I'd side with the HD...

Good clips, great idea.

Mark.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on March 26, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
I Liked the Holy Diver, but it sounds a little bit too Hot..
it reminds me of the SUPER DISTORTION .
by dimarzio.
Both are awesome pickups
Q:p
I liked the cs.. but i thought it was a little bit darker
Q:p
Thanks for the clip
Hails
JP
AH, i preffer the HD clean than the CS
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 28, 2008, 03:56:09 AM
I thought the HD had a bit more bite to it, both sound great though.

This was the tone the Ozzy Osbourne would refer to as 'Cow Tone' and wouldn't let his guitar players use it!

Nice playing  8)
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Pale Rider on April 02, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
I'm searching for some time now for a neck pup to match the Holydiver in the bridge.

I liked the more tuby sound of the HDn more here but both are really great!

I think my Holydiver's partner is going to be a Holydiver. :)

Thanks for that it helped a lot.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: keano on April 02, 2008, 07:22:32 PM
HD clean.

CS/HD neck very similar either one. Probably Cs cuz I prefer dark necks.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Kilby on April 03, 2008, 11:18:38 AM
I don't often post comments on the player section, but I have to say nice playing and I absolutely love the tone of the HD clip (much more than the CS which is nice but dosn't appeal to me nearly as much)
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Jonny on April 04, 2008, 11:53:16 PM
Do a MM one, Antag, pleaseeee.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Yamhammer on April 09, 2008, 07:24:04 AM
Awesome clips Antag!

Difficult to choose which one I prefer, but I'm going for the CS neck. It sounds a bit more open and clearer compared to the HD.

The HD sounds fuller overall with a bit more compressed distorted sound, at least to my ears. So the HD is the one I would call
'dark' sounding if I had to choose between the two.
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Canadian Steve on April 17, 2008, 07:43:53 PM
Nice!  Would CS + HD bridge pickups be suitable for SGs?  Does anybody know the specs of the CS + HD neck p'ups (DC resistance, A5?).
Title: Neck shootout part 2: leads & strumming (HD & CS)
Post by: Antag on April 30, 2008, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Do a MM one, Antag, pleaseeee.
Done (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=12572) :)