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Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Ratrod on March 17, 2008, 12:05:14 PM
Check 'em out.

The band is called Airbourne.

http://www.myspace.com/airbourne
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: indysmith on March 17, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
there was a thread about these guys a while back - havent even bothered listening much tbh. Do we really need a band that sounds the same as a bands whos songs all sound the same?
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 17, 2008, 12:54:38 PM
Airbourne do sound great
It was JT I think who raised the last thread

Their album has been one of the best releases this year in many peoples eyes - they recently played here in the UK

Another Aussie band worth checking is Tonk
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Mr Ed on March 17, 2008, 01:18:18 PM
I $%&#ing despise copycat bands. Airbourne are a copycat band.

The first time I heard them I actually thought it was AC/DC.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on March 17, 2008, 02:21:02 PM
Not bad, but in all fairness, they sound too similar to AC/DC in a tribute band sort of way, as opposed to taking an idea from them, and exploring it in a unique and creative way.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 17, 2008, 02:22:31 PM
I don't really have a view on the band but i have a view on the music critics of today, because it seems that they complain about all the bands nowadays being modern and cr@p sounding just shout and scream etc. and nothing like the good old days of straight up rock and roll or heavy metal. But, finally a band comes along that sounds old school but then they get blasted for "copying the sound" so i don't really see how you can win :?
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: kevincurtis on March 17, 2008, 02:41:23 PM
I bought the album a month or so ago, put it on and smiled all the way home - I love AC/DC but let's face it, they aren't going to release too many more albums and I personally think it's great if someone picks up the mantle...maybe they are a little too 'on the nose' at the moment, and could do with throttling back occasionally, but give them some time :)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: indysmith on March 17, 2008, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
i don't really see how you can win :?

There are other things bands can do besides copying old bands and shouting and screaming :P ...I expect
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 17, 2008, 03:54:06 PM
Yeh but i can't name many bands that are completely original and don't get cussed down for some reason.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Twinfan on March 17, 2008, 05:10:10 PM
Airbourne are awesome.  I went to see them twice on the tour, as did MartinW, and we loved both shows.  Met the rhythm guitarist (Dave) and bass player (Justin) after the second gig and they signed both mine and the missus' tickets  :)

Long live good old fashioned rock and roll  :twisted:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: kellar on March 17, 2008, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
I #$%!& despise copycat bands. Airbourne are a copycat band.

The first time I heard them I actually thought it was AC/DC.


If there were more bands that sounded like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and the million other great bands that roamed the earth when music didn't suck, than maybe we wouldn't be stuck in the pathetic state that we are in with today's music scene.
I welcome the sound of good old fashion rock n' roll!! :twisted:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: goddamn electric on March 17, 2008, 05:52:47 PM
Im a big fan of airbourne, ive been playing the CD in the car constantly since i first picked it up. ok its no secret they take a lot from AC/DC but im ok with that, theyre obviously playing music that they love and they do it great! there are some seriously good riffs in that album!
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Philly Q on March 17, 2008, 06:36:55 PM
I slagged them off for sounding exactly like AC/DC (and God knows they do!!), but it's still a very good album, I have to admit.  

It's not as if AC/DC are in a hurry to release anything new (I've always wondered what they do between albums, they almost seem to vanish off the face of the earth).  And - to be totally honest - most of the last few albums have been fairly shitee anyway.

Quote from: kellar
If there were more bands that sounded like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and the million other great bands that roamed the earth when music didn't suck, than maybe we wouldn't be stuck in the pathetic state that we are in with today's music scene.

I sort of agree, but the great thing about '70s bands (and guitarists) is that they didn't sound like each other, so I don't really want a bunch of soundalikes.  Those guys had influences like The Shadows, Gene Vincent, Chuck Berry and old blues and jazz players, but they didn't just copy them, they came up with something unique and new.  People today only seem to go back a few years and everything "new" sounds just like something you've heard before.  

But it's not totally the bands' fault - rock'n'roll only started in the '50s so by the '70s it was still young and evolving.  That can never really happen again.  Nowadays there are too many bands, too much music and it's all become stagnant.  There'll never be another Beatles, another Hendrix - not because no-one's that talented, but because they'd simply be lost in the crowd.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Ratrod on March 17, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
It has me GAS-ing for an Explorer with Riff Raffs.

'nuff said.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 17, 2008, 09:41:12 PM
Copy cat bands, like all those poxy cookie monster pricks coughing up phlegm you mean? They're 10 a penny!

What goes around comes around, so if bands are sounding like stuff from the early seventys, bring it on. I've had enough of angry yank c*nt kids to last me a lifetime.  :lol:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 17, 2008, 11:32:30 PM
I love how they sound and hope they do well as they will maybe get youngsters listening to them and help them discover a world of music that they wouldn't otherwise as they had written it off as their dad'd music (or maybe even grandad's music).
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 18, 2008, 05:29:36 AM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
I love how they sound and hope they do well as they will maybe get youngsters listening to them and help them discover a world of music that they wouldn't otherwise as they had written it off as their dad'd music (or maybe even grandad's music).


Hear hear (much waving of ballot papers)

The shouting angry (even the pistols had a sense of humour about it) young man and pathetic emo kid has got to stop at some point. Bring on the full circle, even go back to the 50's like some others have said and lets start again. I've felt this way since having the displeasure of seeing 'Insane Clown Posse' on the box!  :lol:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: martinw on March 18, 2008, 09:41:06 AM
See them live before you dis them, those that did.

Like most music, it's an entirely different experience, and above all, Airbourne are a live act.

And they are superb live. I imagine AC/DC were like that when younger. What's not to like?

For the record, they sound as much like Rose Tattoo as AC/DC.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: kellar on March 18, 2008, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Copy cat bands, like all those poxy cookie monster pricks coughing up phlegm you mean? They're 10 a penny!

What goes around comes around, so if bands are sounding like stuff from the early seventys, bring it on. I've had enough of angry yank c*nt kids to last me a lifetime.  :lol:


Well said!!  :D
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Kilby on March 18, 2008, 09:26:56 PM
But I thought it was illegal to smile and have fun especially where music is concerned
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Mr Ed on March 19, 2008, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: kellar
Quote from: Mr Ed
I #$%!& despise copycat bands. Airbourne are a copycat band.

The first time I heard them I actually thought it was AC/DC.


If there were more bands that sounded like AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and the million other great bands that roamed the earth when music didn't suck, than maybe we wouldn't be stuck in the pathetic state that we are in with today's music scene.
I welcome the sound of good old fashion rock n' roll!! :twisted:


Difference between "sounding like" and "ripping off".

Airbourne are the latter.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Twinfan on March 19, 2008, 09:53:46 AM
You're very wrong Mr Ed.  You're just taking a casual listen to both bands and making a very sweeping statement.

In my opinion, AC/DC are very skilled musicians with a subtle "cleverness" to their music.  The riffs are simple yet powerful, guitar parts are very complementary to each other, rhythms and timing are more complicated than you think etc.  Musically, AC/DC are very underrated.  Anyone can bash out a 'DC riff but the tunes are like an iceberg - there's much more going on under the surface.  Their earlier stuff in particular is incredibly well written.

Airbourne are straight ahead, bash 'em out type guys.  Much more punk than blues rock.  They're nowhere near as sophisticated as 'DC, so how are they ripping them off?  Because they're from Oz and play rock and roll with Marshalls?  :roll:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: _tom_ on March 19, 2008, 09:55:12 AM
I agree Dave. I tried recording some ACDC earlier this week but it just sounded cr@p because my rhythm playing has got sloppy, you need to hit it exactly right to make it sound good. Deceptively hard.

I like The Answer, they sound like old rock but dont sound like they're trying to rip anyone off :D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3gIO624X8
 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OEPjMnWz_DI
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Twinfan on March 19, 2008, 11:01:34 AM
I've just bought The Answer's album, sounds good on the first listen.  I bought Joe Bonamass's Sloe Gin at the same time and that's what I'm listening to in the car at the moment.  He's a very good player.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Ratrod on March 19, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
There's plenty of differences. Airbourne's tone is more distorted and compressed, tempo and rhythm are different and the chords used are different from AC/DC as well.

Edit: And if you don't like it, shut the hell up and go listen to your Nickelback. :twisted:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Mr Ed on March 19, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
You're very wrong Mr Ed.  You're just taking a casual listen to both bands and making a very sweeping statement.

In my opinion, AC/DC are very skilled musicians with a subtle "cleverness" to their music.  The riffs are simple yet powerful, guitar parts are very complementary to each other, rhythms and timing are more complicated than you think etc.  Musically, AC/DC are very underrated.  Anyone can bash out a 'DC riff but the tunes are like an iceberg - there's much more going on under the surface.  Their earlier stuff in particular is incredibly well written.

Airbourne are straight ahead, bash 'em out type guys.  Much more punk than blues rock.  They're nowhere near as sophisticated as 'DC, so how are they ripping them off?  Because they're from Oz and play rock and roll with Marshalls?  :roll:


No, I'm not wrong - it's called an opinion, everyone has one.  :roll:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Twinfan on March 19, 2008, 02:30:14 PM
True!  :)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Adam.M on March 19, 2008, 02:58:52 PM
Glad to see that The Answer are still going, shot them in 06, at the 02 Wireless Festival Leeds, really good live act and one of the main reasons for me going to do that event.

I got their album, Rise, at the even for free before it's release, which was about the best thing i've gotten out of music photography to date :)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Philly Q on March 19, 2008, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: Adam.M
Glad to see that The Answer are still going, shot them in 06

Fortunately they escaped with minor injuries and are still going strong.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: kellar on March 19, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
Forvgive me for butting in, but I fail to see where they are "ripping off" AC/DC. I mean, unless they are releasing albums with AC/DC songs on them.
The influence is obvious, but who isn't influenced a great deal by what you listen to? I mean, I'd be hard pressed to write a song right now that didn't reflect some of my own personal influences. If you don't like them because they sound too much like AC/DC, than that's one thing. But to say they are "ripping them off" is quite ridiculous.
Regardless, bring it on. If they are "ripping off" AC/DC, than it might actually be worth listening to for once!
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: QS-Nalle on March 19, 2008, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
There's plenty of differences. Airbourne's tone is more distorted and compressed, tempo and rhythm are different and the chords used are different from AC/DC as well.

Edit: And if you don't like it, shut the hell up and go listen to your Nickelback. :twisted:


Hahahahaaaa $%&#in' Nickleback hahahahahaaa   :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 19, 2008, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
Quote from: Twinfan
You're very wrong Mr Ed.  You're just taking a casual listen to both bands and making a very sweeping statement.

In my opinion, AC/DC are very skilled musicians with a subtle "cleverness" to their music.  The riffs are simple yet powerful, guitar parts are very complementary to each other, rhythms and timing are more complicated than you think etc.  Musically, AC/DC are very underrated.  Anyone can bash out a 'DC riff but the tunes are like an iceberg - there's much more going on under the surface.  Their earlier stuff in particular is incredibly well written.

Airbourne are straight ahead, bash 'em out type guys.  Much more punk than blues rock.  They're nowhere near as sophisticated as 'DC, so how are they ripping them off?  Because they're from Oz and play rock and roll with Marshalls?  :roll:


No, I'm not wrong - it's called an opinion, everyone has one.  :roll:


But as usual it's worthless  :P
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: QS-Nalle on March 19, 2008, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: kellar
Forvgive me for butting in, but I fail to see where they are "ripping off" AC/DC. I mean, unless they are releasing albums with AC/DC songs on them.
The influence is obvious, but who isn't influenced a great deal by what you listen to? I mean, I'd be hard pressed to write a song right now that didn't reflect some of my own personal influences. If you don't like them because they sound too much like AC/DC, than that's one thing. But to say they are "ripping them off" is quite ridiculous.
Regardless, bring it on. If they are "ripping off" AC/DC, than it might actually be worth listening to for once!


+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

AC/DC=the best ROCK EVER!
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 19, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
AC/DC are the ultimate example of 'less is more'. Tight and accurate just don't seem big enough words to describe them. I've seen them live a few times and was amazed by their talent and energy.

Throating like a blue whale lots of big made up words which loosely translate to my mummy and daddy don't understand me and a load of fascinating skin diseases at 666bpm is a load of bollocks and there are more copy cat bands doing it than any other genre I can think of. There are a few who can do this sort of thing well and a 1000 who can't. They never get any birds at their gigs either. I wonder why?
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: _tom_ on March 19, 2008, 07:39:42 PM
So am I just a bad rhythm player or does anyone else find it really hard to make ACDC riffs sound spot on?  :?
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Will on March 19, 2008, 07:42:19 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
They never get any birds at their gigs either. I wonder why?


Oh they do, they are usually the kind that cover themselves in fetish gear to hide their inner beauty though
(they're uggers)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: silentrage on March 19, 2008, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: kellar
If they are "ripping off" AC/DC, than it might actually be worth listening to for once!


Anything that's not assembly line whiny emo mallcore retro nUe metal these days is just awesome if you ask me.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 19, 2008, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: Will
Quote from: Johnny Mac
They never get any birds at their gigs either. I wonder why?


Oh they do, they are usually the kind that cover themselves in fetish gear to hide their inner beauty though
(they're uggers)


You get mingers there, I'm surprised even those would be interested.

I went to see Motley Crue in 1989 at Wembley Arena. There were more women there than men and all of them were stunning uber sluts. I thought this would be the case and it exceeded my expectations  :wink:
The band were pretty good too.
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 19, 2008, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: _tom_
So am I just a bad rhythm player or does anyone else find it really hard to make ACDC riffs sound spot on?  :?


No it's not just you Tommo, it's the subtlety in their chord voicings and a lot of other things. We get a lot of talk of tone is in the fingers in here and here is a good example.



First it* slags off Led Zepplin... :evil: ..perhaps it would be happy elsewhere
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Kilby on March 19, 2008, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac


First it* slags off Led Zepplin... :evil: ..perhaps it would be happy elsewhere


Johnny, with your usage if the term "it" can I assume that you are auditioning as Bullalo Bill are you going to offer him some moisturiser next ? (assuming he is already down the pit)

For those who don't know DC apparently where heavily influenced by the Sensational Alex Harvey Band (SAHB) and you can hear the influence in the earlier tracks. Infact DCs 1st UK appearence was on the Marc Bolan show when SAHB where unable to appear.

Although I don't like them much Status Quo are also written of as 3 chord wonders, but if you actually listen to the track theres more going on than you realise (especially ther pre 1980s material)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Philly Q on March 19, 2008, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: Johnny Mac


First it* slags off Led Zepplin... :evil: ..perhaps it would be happy elsewhere


Johnny, with your usage if the term "it" can I assume that you are auditioning as Bullalo Bill are you going to offer him some moisturiser next ? (assuming he is already down the pit)

Who could have predicted we'd get some Thomas Harris references in this thread?  :lol:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Johnny Mac on March 20, 2008, 05:33:46 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Kilby
Quote from: Johnny Mac


First it* slags off Led Zepplin... :evil: ..perhaps it would be happy elsewhere


Johnny, with your usage if the term "it" can I assume that you are auditioning as Bullalo Bill are you going to offer him some moisturiser next ? (assuming he is already down the pit)

Who could have predicted we'd get some Thomas Harris references in this thread?  :lol:


It puts the lotion in the basket. It puts the lotion in the basket. IT PUTS THE LOTION IN THE FUKIN BASKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

(yap yap yap yap)
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: _tom_ on March 20, 2008, 09:39:49 AM
Has anyone heard (Its not a) Long Way Down by The Hellacopters? More of a ripoff than Airbourne :lol:
Title: AC/DC got kids they didn't know about?
Post by: Ratrod on March 20, 2008, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: _tom_
So am I just a bad rhythm player or does anyone else find it really hard to make ACDC riffs sound spot on?  :?


I love playing AC/DC riffs. I play along to AC/DC to keep my riffing tight.

Here's some tricks:

Use very little overdrive, plenty of mids and volume.

Be ON the beat. Not after, not infront but ON the beat. Play tight but relaxed.

Use plenty of open chords when you want it to sound big. Only use barre chords when it needs to sound more compressed. Malcolm mixes open and barre chords up a lot. It's one part of the many subtleties.

Control your guitar's volume with your picking, not with your volume knobs, those need to be wide open.

The rest is practice and listen to all those subtleties.