Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: TwilightOdyssey on March 17, 2008, 08:25:41 PM
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Without getting into the possible ethical ramifications, I find this technology totally amazing and one step closer to actual 3D waveforms.
http://jinright.edublogs.org/2008/03/14/celemonys-new-dna-feature/
Watch the video and be amazed!!
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This is amazing. I need it
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I want it, also!!
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That is amazing Ben. Lets hope it can be used sensibly. I could have done with that on many a session.
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Nice!
haha that guy can't say midi properly!
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It's the end of guitar players as we know it! The kids will only need one sampled chord and then they can change it to whatever they like. Doomed....we're doomed! :headphones3: Who's to know?
I wouldn't mind having it myself as I can't be arsed to learn all those modes or practise 36 hours a day as I've got other things to do!
:wink:
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Nowadays though the money is beginning to move towards live performance. I'd love to see it happen in real-time!
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i'm still at the
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Nowadays though the money is beginning to move towards live performance. I'd love to see it happen in real-time!
Guess you can't illegally download a live show, but that does seem right on the mark
Didn't Mutt Lange used to do something like that? but without the clever technology, record each guitar string at a time and then mix it?.. and I am sure I have heard complaints of that method sounding over processed, and thats before it got heavy in digitilisation
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My teacher told me about that. Its crazy.
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Yeah Melodyne is getting better and better. A friend of mine actually works for them as a writer, he has been raving about the potential of the technology since ages. Guess meanwhile they managed to make it more useable too.
Wondering when we will see the first guitar players enhancing their performance live with it.[/b]
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I wonder if it'll work on dirty sounds too. All the sounds in the video are clean. Curious to know if all the extra overtones & distortion would confuse the program.
Also... If you were to plonk a full song into it do you think it would pull the entire thing in to it's different parts?
But even with these questions playing on my mind I do think it's pretty amazing.
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Although I'm a bit of a technophilia and would love to try this I can't help but think that we are getting to the stage in music where technology is getting so clever that musicians won't have to try - just let the latest program/gizzmo cover up/alter their playing. If you listen to some recordings from 60s/70s/80s, most musicians today could achieve similar or better results on their own computers (ProTools, Cubase, Sonar etc) but many of these recordings had a raw (unprocessed) edge which seems to be lacking in many modern 'perfect' recordings.
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Nice!
I'd love to play with this my only gripe is that if you try to change the pitch too much it will sound like shite. Also will it sound fake with guitar solos? what about bending of notes, double stops, slides, pinch harmonics and other nuences which could be hard for the software to pickup.
The demo looks good but they only show simple chord strumming and clearly defined fingerpicking. I will definately check this out though, but I seriousley doubt it will mean the end of guitar playing as we know it.
I've been playing around with sampled instruments for a long time using a program called gigastudio and that technology is amazing, the problem is to get it to sound real though.
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Holy Sh!t!!!
No, no, no!!! It's just not right!!!
That actually sounded amazing.
What's "meedi"?
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I wonder if it'll work on dirty sounds too. All the sounds in the video are clean. Curious to know if all the extra overtones & distortion would confuse the program.
Also... If you were to plonk a full song into it do you think it would pull the entire thing in to it's different parts?
But even with these questions playing on my mind I do think it's pretty amazing.
It wouldn't pull separate instruments out, because it just works on the harmonics, not the formants of the sound- it doesn't know whether that's a violin, or a guitar, or a piano, it just works on the harmonics produced by the notes. I don't think we'll see this happening in the next 5 or 10 years at least, the human brain is much more advanced than the computer with this kind of thing :)
You can hear artifacts in the video though, so don't expect to have perfect songs from poorly played parts.
I'd imagine it's only one small step (and a large amount of processing power) before it can be used in real time, but it might not come out how you expect- if you played a note on fret 16, how would it know whether you meant to play 15 or 17? Both could be part of the same scale.
It's a great idea, and a clever piece of programming from the Melodyne guys, but i don't think it'll be heavily used in the bigger studios. Perhaps for demos and stuff it'd be great, you could just correct the guitar parts and have a whole demo bashed out in a few hours.
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That's one of the scariest, disturbing and potentially most dangerous bit of music news I've heard for many, many years.
This is the sonic version of Pandoras Box.
The end of real music as we know it?
Audio Armaggedon.
So ... How much was it again? ... :D