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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Sifu Ben on March 21, 2008, 12:48:02 PM

Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Sifu Ben on March 21, 2008, 12:48:02 PM
http://www.rondomusic.com/septor727bk.html
Can't wait until it gets here!  :twisted:
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 21, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
I'm not into 7 strings, but that look DAMN nice!
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 21, 2008, 01:47:15 PM
Lovely jubbley =)
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: silentrage on March 21, 2008, 01:47:49 PM
damn that looks like a pretty mean axe,
how the hell do they sell it for so cheap?
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: MrBump on March 21, 2008, 01:58:18 PM
Yep, very nice.  I love the finish.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: silentrage on March 21, 2008, 02:12:16 PM
pardon my newbieshness but how does a 27 baritone sound different from 25.5 scale?
Is it just the longer scale providing extra tension so you can down-tone lower than normal?

p.s. the more i look at that the more GAS starts accumulate
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Jonny on March 21, 2008, 02:14:28 PM
Tony (Transcend) is going to envy you so much. lol..
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: waves on March 21, 2008, 02:22:32 PM
ahh i've been eyeing that one up as my first delve into 7 strings for a while now. it looks f*ckin nice. looking forward to hearing how it plays.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: silentrage on March 21, 2008, 05:54:20 PM
sifu, would you do us a favor and give a little review on how it sounds and plays? And how does it compare to some other 7s if you can, like the ESP LTD stephen carpenter 7 baritone or ibanez 7s.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Sifu Ben on March 21, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
It's my first 7 string, but rest assured I will tell you ALL about it :D
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: jibidy on March 21, 2008, 08:40:49 PM
Please do!
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: sambo on March 21, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
Quote from: silentrage
pardon my newbieshness but how does a 27 baritone sound different from 25.5 scale?
Is it just the longer scale providing extra tension so you can down-tone lower than normal?

p.s. the more i look at that the more GAS starts accumulate


If I remember correctly, a baritone is tuned to B... I think... ?
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Transcend on March 21, 2008, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Tony (Transcend) is going to envy you so much. lol..


You know me so well, thats one of the guitars i was thinking about getting but decided against a 7 string.

I can tell everyone on here that agiles play amazingly and sound amazing, the price just makes them that much sweeter :)
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 21, 2008, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: sambo
Quote from: silentrage
pardon my newbieshness but how does a 27 baritone sound different from 25.5 scale?
Is it just the longer scale providing extra tension so you can down-tone lower than normal?

p.s. the more i look at that the more GAS starts accumulate


If I remember correctly, a baritone is tuned to B... I think... ?


All 7 strings are :o
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: waves on March 21, 2008, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: sambo
Quote from: silentrage
pardon my newbieshness but how does a 27 baritone sound different from 25.5 scale?
Is it just the longer scale providing extra tension so you can down-tone lower than normal?

p.s. the more i look at that the more GAS starts accumulate


If I remember correctly, a baritone is tuned to B... I think... ?


All 7 strings are :o



a baritone 6 string guitar is also tuned down to B.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: BigK on March 22, 2008, 06:34:08 AM
That is a very nice looking 7 indeed GAS attack! :twisted:

Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: sambo
Quote from: silentrage
pardon my newbieshness but how does a 27 baritone sound different from 25.5 scale?
Is it just the longer scale providing extra tension so you can down-tone lower than normal?
p.s. the more i look at that the more GAS starts accumulate

If I remember correctly, a baritone is tuned to B... I think... ?

All 7 strings are :o


Having said that Stef carpenter tuned down to F# on his 7 string baritones before he got his 8's which hes going to tune down to E!!!!! for the new album. :twisted:
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: BigK on March 22, 2008, 06:38:37 AM
Just had a look round that website - didnt you fancy the maple fretboard version? http://www.rondomusic.com/SEPTOR727MNbk.html thats sexy  :twisted:
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: silentrage on March 22, 2008, 07:21:35 AM
Quote from: JackBauer
Just had a look round that website - didnt you fancy the maple fretboard version? http://www.rondomusic.com/SEPTOR727MNbk.html thats sexy  :twisted:


But the maple board detracts from the BLACKNESS :p
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: waves on March 22, 2008, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: JackBauer
Just had a look round that website - didnt you fancy the maple fretboard version? http://www.rondomusic.com/SEPTOR727MNbk.html thats sexy  :twisted:


thats the one i've been looking at. they're so cheap. like 400 quid with a hard case and delivery.


Quote from: JackBauer
Having said that Stef carpenter tuned down to F# on his 7 string baritones before he got his 8's which hes going to tune down to E!!!!! for the new album. :twisted:


thats just silly. might as well play bass lol. i reckon drop g# is about far enough.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Transcend on March 22, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
when you get your 7 string tune it to

C-A-B-B-A-G-E

just for novelty value
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Will on March 22, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: Transcend
when you get your 7 string tune it to

C-A-B-B-A-G-E

just for novelty value


I think that made me laugh far too much. but please do!
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: silentrage on March 22, 2008, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Transcend
when you get your 7 string tune it to

C-A-B-B-A-G-E

just for novelty value


LOL

or

B-A-G-G-A-G-E

(sorry inside joke)
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: il˙ti on March 22, 2008, 02:55:49 PM
Or the Devin Townsend tuning:

G!
C!
G!
C!
G!
C!
E!
Hooray!

(go to 7:15 on this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xLb7sj8ErS0&feature=related )
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Sifu Ben on March 22, 2008, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: JackBauer
Just had a look round that website - didnt you fancy the maple fretboard version? http://www.rondomusic.com/SEPTOR727MNbk.html thats sexy  :twisted:

 I'm not really a maple board guy, and if they want to sell guitars with EBONY boards for that little, who am I to argue?
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: waves on March 22, 2008, 10:46:19 PM
just noticed their seven strings have a 27" scale length. is this normal for seven strings or are these baritone models? i thought it was just an extra string...
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Sifu Ben on March 22, 2008, 11:39:24 PM
It depends really. A lot of 7 strings now are 27ish, Ibanez being the big trend bucker (except on it's Korn models). A B string is a B string at the end of the day, wether it's 6 or 7 strings, so it becomes something of a trade off, stability of the B string Vs bending of the upper strings, although of course the increased length means you could put very light unwound strings on with little difficulty. I personally don't feel a huge difference between 24.75 and 25.5 when it comes to bending, so I'm hoping 27 won't be a problem.
Title: Just pulled the trigger on an Agile
Post by: Jonny on March 23, 2008, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
It depends really. A lot of 7 strings now are 27ish, Ibanez being the big trend bucker (except on it's Korn models). A B string is a B string at the end of the day, wether it's 6 or 7 strings, so it becomes something of a trade off, stability of the B string Vs bending of the upper strings, although of course the increased length means you could put very light unwound strings on with little difficulty. I personally don't feel a huge difference between 24.75 and 25.5 when it comes to bending, so I'm hoping 27 won't be a problem.

However
24.75" - 25.5" = 0.75"
24.75" - 27" = 2.25"
25.5" - 27" = 1.5"

I'm sure you took that into consideration though.