Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: 5F6-A on March 24, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
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http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=JpuMhzIvSbM
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Haha, i was looking at Vintage guitars relicing the other day and it's even worse on some of theirs, especially on the V6 Icon in Black!
I was at music live, i didn't get to see those though i just got pissed at the bar lmao.
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Agreed with you C_J; the 'Vintage' Lemondrop Peter Green sig copies would only convince someone were they half a mile down the road looking through binoculars. Backwards.
Maybe this is just sour grapes because the whole range improved just after I bought my metal AXXE razer (which is now in a state of being permanently borrowed by an old folk musician).
It looks like this bar the stupid headstock.
(http://www.backandforth.nl/VR4000CT-(Razer).gif)
I haven't dared ask as to it's reception at shows...
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I like their relics.. :(
(http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintageelectric/v100mrtsb.jpg)
On another note, I might buy a Stratocaster to relic it through age (yes, I'm serious) Depends if I live that long, lol..
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I'd agree with you there on the idea of relicing through actual playing and age. (although every time I see relicing written I see re-lice-ing, which is not a nice image...)
Just make sure you get the right finish material as very few will shatter in a similar way to Rory Gallagher's strats for example.
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I dont care for the relicing on the Vintage Lemondrop but, the one i played one time was absolutely fantastic especially for the money.
I really want one, i guess they're better construction wise than the other Les Pauls in the vintage range?
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Probably worse actually as the relicing process on the lemondrops involves drilling holes for klusons and then redrilling for spertzels to give the appearance of being modded.
Vintage do now have a premium range which looks quite nice (although, having said that, none of that range is quite the same as the traditional guitar style that the designs hail from. It would appear that Trevor Wilkinson uses Vintage as a testing ground for his new ideas before they are incorporated into his Fretking range.).
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Probably worse actually as the relicing process on the lemondrops involves drilling holes for klusons and then redrilling for spertzels to give the appearance of being modded.
Rofl, you're kidding right?
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Probably worse actually as the relicing process on the lemondrops involves drilling holes for klusons and then redrilling for spertzels to give the appearance of being modded.
Rofl, you're kidding right?
He's not; they do have those fake holes. However I doubt they'd do anything bad for the build quality as they are only small ~1mm holes. The one I tried was really nice and the neck had a really nice profile to it and was really smooth. The pups weren't too shabby either. The biggest difference is that these have maple caps; like a proper LP should.
The guitar even looks pretty cool if you stand more than about 5 feeet away from it lol. I'd consider getting one if I was after a cheap good LP.
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Thing is, that Rory Gallagher finish crazing isn't just about age and use. the guitar lay in a shuck in Cork for three nights.
I wonder if Fender do this on the custom shop re-issues. Perhaps i should take a run down and check the hedges of Cork for guitars...
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Thing is, that Rory Gallagher finish crazing isn't just about age and use. the guitar lay in a shuck in Cork for three nights.
I wonder if Fender do this on the custom shop re-issues. Perhaps i should take a run down and check the hedges of Cork for guitars...
Two words for this...
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ROAD TRIP!
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Hmmm, I remember someone around here said that with a guitar, there is a time between when the guitar is new, and when it looks beaten up, in which the guitar doesn't look nicely relic'd, and is too far gone to be new.
Maybe its just easier for them to produce an overly relic'd guitar than a subtle one? Although, I agree the spensive custom shop jobbys should be perfect, I am speaking up for the vintage line, where I can see budget would still be a big issue
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Probably worse actually as the relicing process on the lemondrops involves drilling holes for klusons and then redrilling for spertzels to give the appearance of being modded.
I've been known to pull stunts like this when building guitars; and all this time, I thought I was the only one.
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lol i'm fairly sure the whole idea of 'relicing' a guitar in a factory is utterly stupid, especially when fender does it.
NO, you can NOT just drop a strat down a flight of stairs, call it a "Rory Gallagher Tribute" and sell it for 5 effing thousand dollars!
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I'm lucky enough to have my own relic-er. He's my brother, and all you need to do is lend him anything, and it comes back a fortnight later, looking like it's been used hard for thirty years.
He works on everything as well, not just guitars.
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lol i'm fairly sure the whole idea of 'relicing' a guitar in a factory is utterly stupid, especially when fender does it.
NO, you can NOT just drop a strat down a flight of stairs, call it a "Rory Gallagher Tribute" and sell it for 5 effing thousand dollars!
Agree entirely. I think the whole "relic" concept is just b*&*&ks for people with too much money. But then, what do I know :?
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Probably worse actually as the relicing process on the lemondrops involves drilling holes for klusons and then redrilling for spertzels to give the appearance of being modded.
But I wonder how many threads I've seen asking about changing tuners. This should make life a bit easier..... not that you'd really want to replace Sperzels, but there you go :D
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I'm lucky enough to have my own relic-er. He's my brother, and all you need to do is lend him anything, and it comes back a fortnight later, looking like it's been used hard for thirty years.
He works on everything as well, not just guitars.
LMAOF!! :lol:
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I really hate "reliced" guitars.
However, there are few things as nice in the guitar world as an authentically aged guitar, for example a beautiful crisp ice white which has, over time, turned into a slightly dodgy looking cream colour. Fit as.
8)
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What about this? It is a new build using many original parts with a Rebel Yell and 2 Mother's Milks. I think it is perfect :D
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Is that reliced or just old though?
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looks nice either way
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What about this? It is a new build using many original parts with a Rebel Yell and 2 Mother's Milks. I think it is perfect :D
he gets the crazing a lot more accurate than most of the fender relics i have seen... very nice indeed
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my guitar is 25yrs old it doesn't need relicing.. it's already done through time.
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my guitar is 25yrs old it doesn't need relicing.. it's already done through time.
The only kind of relic that's worth the time of day, in my handsome opinion. 8)
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Is that reliced or just old though?
It is brand new just out of the workshop. I pick it up next month when I am back in England. I have real 57, 60 and 63 strats but they are getting too expensive to take out now. This is a great alternative, it looks and feels like an old guitar, but is replaceable if anything happens to it (though they take about 15 months to make!!).
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That looks great, that looks some of the most "natural" relicing I've ever seen - it doesn't look like some bugger's just taken a sheet of sandpaper to it for a start. :D
Oh, and expect to see me robbing your house for them three Strats at some point in the near future.
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Phil,
that looks great!
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Thanks everyone, it is a Bravewood. I was lucky enough to get in when John was still taking orders. I will give more info when I get it, but I have played other guitars he made and they all feel just like real vintage ones. This is a 64 curved board in Fiesta Red.
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I was thinking "Bravewood" when I saw that Phil.
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Very nice Phil! 8)
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yes very nice indeed phil, but i am in the general thought that nothing can compete with a 'properly' reliced guitar. i.e. played for many years on end in smokey clubs, which are now 'smoke free' lol. seriously though i don't think you can quite beat srv's no 1 for relicing, or rory gallagher's strat
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yes very nice indeed phil, but i am in the general thought that nothing can compete with a 'properly' reliced guitar. i.e. played for many years on end in smokey clubs, which are now 'smoke free' lol. seriously though i don't think you can quite beat srv's no 1 for relicing, or rory gallagher's strat
The problem is taking those guitars out to play now is becoming a liability. Having one that can be replaced if anything happens is worth it. Since I have guitars which are over 50 years old, I know how they feel, and I have to say that the Bravewoods feel just the same. John spends a lot of time working on the feel of the guitars and it shows.
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I totally understand phil, don't worry. Tha bravewood looks very nice, the amount of time and effort to getting it looking that genuine must be astonishing. I know about your guitar collections aswell, you have a very nice collection :o . Although i don't post much on this forum, i'm usually browsing :lol:
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it is a Bravewood. .
great guitar, naff name.
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Thing is, that Rory Gallagher finish crazing isn't just about age and use. the guitar lay in a shuck in Cork for three nights.
I wonder if Fender do this on the custom shop re-issues. Perhaps i should take a run down and check the hedges of Cork for guitars...
That'll be the "relic" strat that's basically unfinished with transfers on it?
It's frankly disgusting Fender have the balls to charge what they do for it.
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I don't know, man. I never noticed any transfers on it.
In all fairness, the Gallagher strat is a lovely playing guitar, and does sound more than decent.
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Yeah they sound good, it's just the sneakiness of implying that it's been finished then relic'd to that state when it's not the case at all.
And for a thousand pounds less you can get a really good custom shop strat relic that's actually been done like they say they are :lol: