Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: WezV on March 28, 2008, 04:28:38 PM
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i thought i would join in with transcends indecisiveness and seek opinions on my nearly finished guitar. been uming and arring on this question for a while
Ok, heres the guitar, sure you have seen it before
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/venture2.jpg)
here it is with a scratchplate i knocked up for it
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/venture1.jpg)
Which one looks better???
Got to say i am really pleased with the kahler, i'm not usually much of one for trems but this think works so smooth i love it. One issue is that divebombs are so easy the trem arm will hit the guitar quite easily - a good argument for having a scratchplate to protect it.
Holydiver is great as well - its tricking me into thinking i can play :oops:
i know if i was keeping it i would probably go with the scratchplate - partly because the GF is happier having a less 80's looking instrument in the house :wink: ... but i aint intending on keeping hold of this one for long
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Without! Much more 80s ;)
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I say without, although I like both looks.
Why not just await a buyer, and let them choose?
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sounds like a scratchplate is of practical use... why not a discrete single ply white one? very great guitar by the way
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With.
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I would normally say without with it being an explorer.
BUT it needs to be there in this case, plus it looks so damn cool with it.
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With. The more stuff on that guitar, the less you notice the kahler.
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I think a white pickguard with a bevelled edge would look good. Either one ply or three.
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Without for me - just looks nicer IMO.
About divebombs, I tend to grip the arm (i.e. wrap 3 of my fingers around it) rather than just push down on it so for me it wouldn't be a problem hitting the body.
About the Kahler, is that a new one? (they recently started making them again) or did you find an old one somewhere?
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I wouldn't have the scratchplate as far as the full width of the pickups. But I would go for 'yes' with the scratchplate.
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the white scratchplate idea is a possibility - i hadnt really considered it because i was thinking the screws would take away from the simple look of the pure white version. I think i only have 3 ply white in at the moment - single ply would look better i think
and i actually quite like the look of the kahler
oh, and when i say about the arm hitting the body easily - thats only in comparison to a normal pivoting trem. The kahler feels very different is all
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the kahler is a new one - they are back in production
this is actually the cheaper 7300 hybrid rather than the original 2300 or 4300 x trem
the 2300 is only available from the custom shop and has a milled baseplate. The 7300 has a cast plate but has the nice additon of a set screw for locking the trem off as a hardtail and thats what i really wanted - both these are made by kahler in the USA. The X-trem is the real budget one
can get them here:
http://www.wammiworld.com/index.html
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i like either way, lol.
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i like either way, lol.
thats my problem too!
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I like it with, baring in mind i have a white tele with a black guard. Just looks classy, and I utterly despise white scratchplates for some reason.
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If it were me I would go with the single ply white with a bevel in a heartbeat. As long as it matched in color perfectly I think it would flow very nicely. Maybe even paint the screw tops. And in keeping with the quasi-80's theme I would either chrome out the Kahler or black it out to match the pickup ring and knob.
Another thing I would do is make it so the pickguard comes away from the edges on the tip so it's slightly narrower more like this Gibson. (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefRTP.1H0VgBiYmjzbkF/SIG=13htocrs8/EXP=1206816979/**http%3A//www.musik-schmidt.de/osc-schmidt/catalog/images/GIBSON_Explorer-76-Classic-White_1.jpg) Unless of course you're trying to get away from the classic Gibson look.
That is my final vote. And if you make it, I will come to your island and buy it tomorrow! :lol:
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That is my final vote. And if you make it, I will come to your island and buy it tomorrow! :lol:
hey, if someone wants to spec the final shape of the scratchplate and wants to buy it i have no problems with that :wink: Gotta be sold at some point - although i am not sure how much of a rush i am in to let it go - thats the bit i hate.
but the plan is to let the xplorer (actually i think its going to be Venture or Ventura in keeping with my V themed names) or the Veteran go soon so i am open to (reasonable) offers
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/wv26.jpg)
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That is my final vote. And if you make it, I will come to your island and buy it tomorrow! :lol:
Gotta be sold at some point - although i am not sure how much of a rush i am in to let it go - thats the bit i hate.
Can't imagine. It's like you're a mormon that just can't stop having babies so you have to decide which ones to give up for adoption because you can't take care of them all. :crzy:
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I'd say without, or perhaps a thin adhesive clear scratchplate like Joe Satriani did on his chrome guitars. On the other hand how about a non holed black scratchplate stuck on like an acoustic, it'd protect the guitar and keep the lines clean.
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Without!
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Without.
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With
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I'd say without :)
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I vote 'YES' for the scratchplate. Without is too 80's hair metal. The guard gives it a nice two-tone look.
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With, in black.
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I definetly think it needs something - But the scratchplate proposed isn't right.
I think perhaps a white scratchplate with a black pinstripe around the edge or something like that.
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Why not put it on with blu-tack or double sided sticky tape and then it could be taken off and put on at any time? You could even make a set of plates in different colours so the player can change them to co-oridnate with their stage outfit.
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Go for it Hetfield.
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i think i have decided i prefer the black scratchplate.. i like the two-tone look - but i am going to leave it off untill i have a buyer. Like will said at the start - probably best to let whoever buys it have the final say
actually i think something in red and white would be pretty special - but maybe not this time
not sure about sticking it on instead of using screws - the guitar feels very solid thanks to the extra long neck tenon and simple design and having a scratchplate that falls off if knocked may take away from that.
speaking of the neck - its a pretty special design. Its a laminate of maple wenge and walnut and if that wasnt stable enough it has a two way truss rod and dual carbon fibre bar for extra stability. Plus the tenon extends all the way to the pickup cavity. Just about as stable a design as you can get with a wooden guitar . This was all left over wood from a through neck bass so i didnt really mind covering it all in white
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/neck.jpg)
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What's that curved line that goes from the bottom of the headstock to the fingerboard?
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its a spliced on headstock with an accent line thrown in - obviously its pointless since we sprayed it white.
splice joins dont always have the best reputation since they tend to open up on cheaper guitars but when its done well its a lot stronger than a normal one piece neck. this guitar is spliced because i wanted to get the most out of a relatively small amount of wood - sometimes a throw a accent line in there just to show off that its a splice join... nothing to be ashamed off
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With!!!
Is it a full size explorer shape or slightly smaller?
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I took the outline from a 90's Xplorer Pro - so its smaller than a traditional Explorer, very ergonmic actually
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had a chance to try the ventura out this weekend. its a really lively instrument, an absolute hoot to play! sound was everything you want through my boosted jmp50.
the kahler was quite interesting, a different set of advantages and disadvantages compared to a floyd rose. its hard to say, but i reckon i prefer the kahler to floyd.
definitely looks perfect without the scratchplate.
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I thought you'd sold the veteran! I had the money for it at the time, but not now :(
I'm not sure about the scratchplate, but I think it looks a little bare as it is. Maybe a graphic?
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So has Wez not sold the Ventura then? It would look great in my rock band......
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i still have the ventura and i am not after too much for it either! The veteran sold ages ago
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Confused by gwEm's thread necromancy :oops: