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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Hayden on April 14, 2005, 08:05:03 PM

Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 14, 2005, 08:05:03 PM
Hey all, thought I'd share a clip of my Custom wound single coils.

The pickups are mounted in a 90 Strat+ with a standard five way and a 'Tele' switch. The bridge pickup is over 22k and the neck and middle around 13.

Starts with clean on all five positions (2 and 4 on the swtich are in in...er...Parallel I think making it a humbucker of sorts) the last is of the bridge and neck pups together.

After this we have a distorted clip of the bridge and neck then some noodling over a potted backing track. hope you like....cause I love these things :)


Okay, it still wont let me upload to here so please follow the link and click on the demo link :)

http://shredmonkey.tripod.com
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HJM on April 14, 2005, 08:09:28 PM
Show me the clips! Show me the clips!!!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 14, 2005, 08:10:24 PM
Quote from: HJM
Show me the clips! Show me the clips!!!


I cant I cant and I have to nip out. i'll try again in an hour or so!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 15, 2005, 03:41:11 AM
Links up...Dunno why I cant upload though.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Bird on April 15, 2005, 04:21:32 AM
:shock:   Wow! Very nice. I love the distortion on that, sounds great. What kind of pickups are those?
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 15, 2005, 04:27:41 AM
Quote from: Bird
:shock:   Wow! Very nice. I love the distortion on that, sounds great. What kind of pickups are those?


Bareknuckle ones :)

Tim custom wound three singles for me, very VERY hot for single coils but sweet as anything.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HJM on April 15, 2005, 06:58:57 AM
Didn't your mother tell you that shredding makes you go blind???

very nice though all the same :twisted:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 15, 2005, 10:02:35 AM
Quote from: HJM
Didn't your mother tell you that shredding makes you go blind???

very nice though all the same :twisted:


Shredding? What is this shredding of which you speak? I play jazz and only jazz you ruffian!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Tim on April 17, 2005, 07:41:50 PM
It's the same stuff they put in the cereal boxes and from the sounds of things you've eaten 4 :lol:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: WARPIG on April 18, 2005, 03:07:03 AM
my jaw just dropped
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: bucketshred on April 25, 2005, 06:55:03 PM
Wow.

I want some of those custom pickups, they are $%&#ing awesome!

Andy!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 25, 2005, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
Wow.

I want some of those custom pickups, they are $%&#ing awesome!

Andy!


:)

I'm sure Tim'll wind you a set quite happily. One things for sure, my Strat will never be without them.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on April 25, 2005, 10:41:28 PM
Very nice playing, indeed!

And great tone!! :)

Lots of little Vai licks in there ... mmmmm, tasty!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 26, 2005, 11:02:59 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Very nice playing, indeed!

And great tone!! :)

Lots of little Vai licks in there ... mmmmm, tasty!


Thanks mate, I'd like to pretend the tone was in my fingers but....... :twisted:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: bucketshred on April 27, 2005, 06:15:45 PM
So those beasties are based on Trilogies then?

Andy!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 27, 2005, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
So those beasties are based on Trilogies then?

Andy!


The neck and middle are basically Trilogies as I understand it. The bridge is a 25k monster which apparently has nearly as much wire on there as a Warpig humbuucker. 15000 winds or thereabouts. I have it screwed down so far it looks like the worlds first low profile pickup :D
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Tim on April 27, 2005, 06:23:34 PM
Basically Hayden's got a customised Sinner bridge and Trilogy neck pickup.
The bridge is insanity...........it takes ages to wind but worth it! 8)
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: bucketshred on April 27, 2005, 06:48:32 PM
I wants it, someone please lend me some money!

Bleedin' Car Insurance!

Andy!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HJM on April 27, 2005, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
I wants it, someone please lend me some money!

Bleedin' Car Insurance!

Andy!


Sell the car, buy a bike, get everywhere without traffic jams and buy pickups :twisted:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: bucketshred on April 27, 2005, 09:58:34 PM
The 'rents won't let me buy a bike...

And how the hell am I supposed to get my Fallen Angel about?  It's bad enough getting it down the stairs!

Andy!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HJM on April 27, 2005, 10:11:22 PM
Quote from: bucketshred


And how the hell am I supposed to get my Fallen Angel about?  It's bad enough getting it down the stairs!

Andy!
That's why we have drummers in our bands isn't it???
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: bucketshred on April 27, 2005, 11:01:53 PM
My drummer has the same build as a stick insect, bless him.

Thinking about it, I'm the chunkiest mutha in my band :(

Andy
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on April 28, 2005, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: bucketshred
My drummer has the same build as a stick insect, bless him.

Thinking about it, I'm the chunkiest mutha in my band :(

Andy


Get a big fat drummer!

Or one with a camper van.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: balde on April 30, 2005, 12:57:46 PM
Nice clip!!!!  man, knowing how hot where those pickups wounded, I couldnīt believe the clarity they had when played clean. And distorted sound, FAAAAATTTT!!!!!![/url]
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HTH AMPS on May 01, 2005, 05:52:26 PM
Excellent tone and playing - have you ever heard of a dude called Steve Vai?  :wink:

They sound great with distortion - very phat  :twisted:
Title: Re: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: jt on May 01, 2005, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Hayden
Hey all, thought I'd share a clip of my Custom wound single coils.

The pickups are mounted in a 90 Strat+ with a standard five way and a 'Tele' switch. The bridge pickup is over 22k and the neck and middle around 13.

Starts with clean on all five positions (2 and 4 on the swtich are in in...er...Parallel I think making it a humbucker of sorts) the last is of the bridge and neck pups together.

After this we have a distorted clip of the bridge and neck then some noodling over a potted backing track. hope you like....cause I love these things :)


Okay, it still wont let me upload to here so please follow the link and click on the demo link :)

http://shredmonkey.tripod.com
:guitar4: Yer great sound shred that neck !!!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on May 02, 2005, 08:21:01 AM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Excellent tone and playing - have you ever heard of a dude called Steve Vai?  :wink:

They sound great with distortion - very phat  :twisted:


Thanks everyone for checking it out. The Vai references are kind of funny for me cause I only own one of his albums, I guess what I have heard stuck fast though! :) All I can say is thank god I don't listen to the Maestro Alex Gregory too often  :twisted:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Ced777 on May 14, 2005, 10:11:50 PM
What a tone!! Impressive!

Tim: what pair of BKP humbuckers would sound like this Sinner Custom bridge and Trilogy neck? I ask because I have no room for the SC, but I have a HH alder guitar that would like to get the same tone ;-)

Ced777
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on May 14, 2005, 10:18:21 PM
the closest would be the Warpig its DC is 22K so the custom sinner isn't far off! It also has alnico V magnets like the sinner.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Ced777 on May 18, 2005, 05:38:27 PM
It would be nice if Tim could confirm Warpig have the same tone, because there is no clip of it for now.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on May 18, 2005, 07:08:17 PM
I work for Bareknuckle. The warpig is the closest humbucker to the overwound sinner, it would just have a thicker tone, because it is a humbucker.
The Closest to the trilogy neck would be an Alnico V Miracle man, or a Nail bomb neck.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Ced777 on May 18, 2005, 07:14:22 PM
Ok Steve, sorry , I was not aware you work for BK....  :oops:

Just an idea: would it be possible (and interesting or completly stupid?) to make a HB with one coil "fake" to have these single coils tone in a HB size? The SC has a particular attack and treble I think (diiferent fom a Warpig/NB neck HB)

I am asking for this because I have a HH guitar that would love this tone monster ;-)

Maybe just a stupid idea....
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on May 18, 2005, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ced777
Ok Steve, sorry , I was not aware you work for BK....  :oops:

Just an idea: would it be possible (and interesting or completly stupid?) to make a HB with one coil "fake" to have these single coils tone in a HB size? The SC has a particular attack and treble I think (diiferent fom a Warpig/NB neck HB)

I am asking for this because I have a HH guitar that would love this tone monster ;-)

Maybe just a stupid idea....


Thats ok!
  A single coil gets its sound because of the bobbin shape and size, and because of the fact that the wire is wrapped around the magnets, not sat ontop of it like in a humbucker.
A HB with only onle coil would sound like a HB with a coil split, so it would be kind of like a single coil, but it wouldnt sound the same.

Dont worry, its not a stupid question. And anyway you only learn by asking!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Ced777 on May 18, 2005, 07:34:59 PM
Nevermind.
Thank you for the quick answer!
I will think about a Warpig set or Warpig bridge + NB neck...
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Tim on May 18, 2005, 08:43:35 PM
Quote from: Ced777
Ok Steve, sorry , I was not aware you work for BK....  :oops:

Just an idea: would it be possible (and interesting or completly stupid?) to make a HB with one coil "fake" to have these single coils tone in a HB size? The SC has a particular attack and treble I think (diiferent fom a Warpig/NB neck HB)

I am asking for this because I have a HH guitar that would love this tone monster ;-)

Maybe just a stupid idea....

Actually it's not such a stupid idea, companies like Dimarzio have used dummy coils in their designs and I've experimented with extreme coil offsets that sound very single coil like.
Steve is right though, any pickup derives it's tone not just from the wire and magnet type but the coil size and shape too.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on May 19, 2005, 05:26:25 PM
So in general could you give me an idea of what the main differences are between a single and hummer given these factors?

i.e.

How would a split hummer sound if it were made of two single coils, and

How would a hummer sound different if it were made of two single coil like bobbins, rather than normal bobbins?

I say this as Im interested in copying the PRS 513 idea of using 5 singles! :twisted:

MMM
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: HJM on May 19, 2005, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: Miracle Man Matt
So in general could you give me an idea of what the main differences are between a single and hummer given these factors?

i.e.

How would a split hummer sound if it were made of two single coils, and

How would a hummer sound different if it were made of two single coil like bobbins, rather than normal bobbins?

I say this as Im interested in copying the PRS 513 idea of using 5 singles! :twisted:

MMM
Check out the BKPs on Nathan Sheppard guitars

http://www.nathansheppardguitars.com/

humbucker from two  p90s!!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Johnny Mac on May 28, 2005, 03:15:25 PM
They sound fantastic and so do you! Nice one mate :D
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Post by: bucketshred on June 04, 2005, 07:47:14 PM
That's a point, what amp did you use?

Andy!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on June 04, 2005, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: bucketshred
That's a point, what amp did you use?

Andy!



Line 6 Vetta straight into the soundcard.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: donovan.x on March 28, 2006, 12:56:03 PM
Awsome tone and playing.........
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: dave_mc on March 28, 2006, 06:41:23 PM
those clips were rockin'!

 :twisted:
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Post by: OD-Black_Fire on March 28, 2006, 10:51:53 PM
HARDCORE BLUES
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Post by: chrisola on March 29, 2006, 11:06:13 PM
heh oldie thread but a GOODIE

My Legra guitars just had a Sinner put in for the neck to replace the mothers milk, cant wait to get it back!
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Kilby on March 30, 2006, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: Tim
Actually it's not such a stupid idea, companies like Dimarzio have used dummy coils in their designs and I've experimented with extreme coil offsets that sound very single coil like.
Steve is right though, any pickup derives it's tone not just from the wire and magnet type but the coil size and shape too.


Pardon me being thick, but I thought Ced sort of meant, a single coil pickup, but in a humbucker sized package.

Just using normal Strat / Tele magnets, bobbins winds etc, but with a suitable method of mounting in a HB sized hole (and perhaps some cosmetic additions to hide the extra space)

A bit like the MQ being a P90 in a humbucker size.

Rob...
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Bainzy on March 30, 2006, 04:07:16 PM
Wow it's been quite a long time since I last heard this clip. I've got a 2004 Fender MIA strat that still has the stock pickups in, this is a great tone and I'd be really happy to get this tone out of that strat. I'm leaning towards getting some trilogies in there - hmmm....
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Kilby on March 30, 2006, 04:15:55 PM
I have to say that I am a fool for single coil pickups.

I love P90s in Gibsons, to me they become more expressive, so I have always wondered what a 'regular' single coil would be like in a LP or SG.

I dunno about anybody else, but split coils just sound wrong, I can't put my finger on what is making it unpleasent (to me).

I'm sure that Tim (or somebody) will explain what is different, not electrically and magnetically (I understand those differences) but the sound itself.

Rob...
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: hunter on April 01, 2006, 10:58:32 PM
Man! You rock!

Do you have any CDs out or can I see you playing live anywhere?

You got a very cool style going on there, reminds me of Steve Morse more than anything, just dirtyer and wilder than him, means: better  :wink:
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Post by: JamesHealey on April 09, 2006, 07:01:56 PM
and i always thought single coils were for pussies.

ooooh how wrong am i?! lol
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Post by: sambo on April 09, 2006, 07:06:22 PM
HAHA! plus one on that completely!!!!  :lol:  :oops:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: _tom_ on April 09, 2006, 07:08:44 PM
Quote from: sambo
HAHA! plus one on that completely!!!!  :lol:  :oops:


What the hell? I thought you loved P90s...which are singlecoils  :lol:
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: sambo on April 09, 2006, 07:14:01 PM
yer but thats onoly since recently... since gibbo melody maker
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Post by: indysmith on April 09, 2006, 07:15:20 PM
sambo only love p90s because the gibson he could afford came with a p90  :P

Hadn't heard this clip for AGES. It still ROCKS
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Post by: sambo on April 09, 2006, 07:36:58 PM
lol indy your actually completely wrong...



FIRSTLY: didnt buy the melody maker cause it was a gibbo.... bought it cause it was cheap and awesome...

SECONDLY: p-90s are the best.... so NER

 :P  :P  :P  :P  :D  :D  :D
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Post by: Mr Ed on February 08, 2007, 05:59:13 PM
Holy cr@p!! Insanely amazing sounds, sounds like something I could seriously bone over.
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on February 08, 2007, 07:17:16 PM
Quote from: hunter
Man! You rock!

Do you have any CDs out or can I see you playing live anywhere?

You got a very cool style going on there, reminds me of Steve Morse more than anything, just dirtyer and wilder than him, means: better  :wink:



I should check in here more often!

These pickups are the greatest thing that happened to me, guitar wise, since deciding I wanted a Strat rather than an LP. I've been getting more questions recently so I'm going to post up a vid soon showing off more tones from the pickups.

To this day I don't know what Tim was talking about when he explained these pickups to me, all I know is I've never heard or played anything like them.

As for CD's...Not from me. I'm just a hack that enjoys playing :)
Title: BKP Uber single coils!
Post by: Hayden on February 08, 2007, 07:25:39 PM
Quote from: Erlend_G
And one more thing... while i remember it:

What string gauge\brand do you use? :)


Whatever I can blag from the guys at Elixir usually.

Can't beat answering a post a year late!