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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: matlock on April 06, 2008, 01:27:55 AM

Title: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: matlock on April 06, 2008, 01:27:55 AM
Ok... who doesn't love Greg Vs tone on Bogner's web site?  He's going thru an XTC classic (love that Plexi!)

I was wondering, if I'm going to fit my Edwards Les Paul with what Greg has in his '57 (I'm assuming they're stock pickups), would I go for Mules or VHIIs?  Is there something in-between?

I understand the amp and his fingers have a lot to do with his tone.  I don't have $4k laying around. That would buy the amp...but the fingers?  :lol:

Links:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcGV1.mp3
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcCLCleanGV2.mp3
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcCLPlexiGV1.mp3

Thanks, gearheads!
Title: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: il˙ti on April 06, 2008, 01:43:26 AM
Sounds Muley to me! But I guess there is something in-between such as the AV mule.
Title: Mule AVs?
Post by: matlock on April 06, 2008, 04:13:03 AM
Mule AVs?  Is there such a place between the Mule AIV and VHII?  What's it like?  Are there unicorns?   :P
Title: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: il˙ti on April 06, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Well you specifically asked if there was something in-between. Ask gwem or PhilKing, as they have the A5 Mules.
Title: A4 vs. A5 Mule
Post by: matlock on April 07, 2008, 01:49:44 AM
Thanks ilyti.  I don't know why I didn't find this before.
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437

I'm torn.  Mules, VHIIs, or Black Dogs?  Dang...proceeding to pull out hair.  I want to go blues rock, but also want to be able to bring out some good sustain (a la Neal Schon) when needed.  I like more mids in my sound, but BDs might be a bit too much.  They also may have too much bite to the highs for me.   :?
Title: Re: A4 vs. A5 Mule
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 07, 2008, 05:15:38 PM
Quote from: matlock
Thanks ilyti.  I don't know why I didn't find this before.
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437

I'm torn.  Mules, VHIIs, or Black Dogs?  Dang...proceeding to pull out hair.  I want to go blues rock, but also want to be able to bring out some good sustain (a la Neal Schon) when needed.  I like more mids in my sound, but BDs might be a bit too much.  They also may have too much bite to the highs for me.   :?


I'd say Mules.  VHIIs are brighter, Black Dogs have WAY more bass and low mids.  If you want a hotter pickup in the Mule vein, the Crawler is a great pickup with more pokey mids (I liked it alot and don't know wtf I sold mine)
Title: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: matlock on April 09, 2008, 03:26:21 AM
Thanks for the input, all.  I've got a msg into Tim right now to try and set me up w/ something based on my tastes.
Title: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: JamesHealey on April 09, 2008, 08:09:34 AM
that sound is NOT VHII's.. it's much more toward Mules or Black Dogs
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: mikey5 on September 09, 2008, 10:08:32 PM
Thanks for the input, all.  I've got a msg into Tim right now to try and set me up w/ something based on my tastes.

WHat did tim say??
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: Twinfan on September 09, 2008, 11:52:17 PM
I'd say that's Muley too.
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: mikey5 on September 10, 2008, 02:35:08 AM
The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 10, 2008, 01:04:07 PM
The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 

I'd call it bright, theres a fair amount of high-end attack in that tone (more than I'd use myself).

fwiw, that 'plexi' setting has way more gain than any real plexi I've ever owned - they should have called it the EVH channel.
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: mikey5 on September 10, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 

I'd call it bright, theres a fair amount of high-end attack in that tone (more than I'd use myself).

I like it. Are the cold Sweats that bright or is that more crawler territory. Its nice to have sound to compare to??
Title: Re: Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?
Post by: il˙ti on September 10, 2008, 06:57:13 PM
It's neither. As discussed this sound would be better nailed with a set of Mules. The Cold Sweat is definitely brighter than the Crawler, but the Crawler is more "PAF-like" so I'd still take crawlers over cold sweats for this tone. But again, Mules would nail it to an A.