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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 12:52:35 AM

Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 12:52:35 AM
I went to visit Guitar village today to try out a guitar with a similar neck to Twinfans P90 Tokai SG. I tried a few out and thought the necks were to thick for me so couldn't really justify buying it (sorry Dave!). Just as I was about to go downstairs and leave I thought I would give a PRS Soapbar Satin a quick go. Basically I was there for at least another 20 minutes playing the guitar and thinking of ways I could buy it. I couldn't think of any way that I could afford it within at least the next 9 months.

To help put me out of my misery can someone tell me that these guitars are awful and not worth owning. Please  :wink:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 13, 2008, 12:56:13 AM
Start saving.

Aha! See what I did there! I didn't say it was bad, nor did I put you off getting the guitar! Aha! Nor did I say to save up for a guitar! Aha!

God I need sleep......
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Dakine on April 13, 2008, 03:16:51 AM
a PRS satin was my FIRST mistake, it's a disease!
Sorry not helping much amm I lol.

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01516.jpg)

Neck, divine! Quality outstanding! Keeps in tune REAL well! Solid build! yadda yadda!

Ya KNOW it's right  :lol:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 10:17:46 AM
Quote from: Dakine
a PRS satin was my FIRST mistake, it's a disease!
Sorry not helping much amm I lol.

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01516.jpg)

Neck, divine! Quality outstanding! Keeps in tune REAL well! Solid build! yadda yadda!

Ya KNOW it's right  :lol:


Cheers Dakine. Is that a 245 or 250? I'm not looking at these though as they are a bit out of my range!

Also - do I see Billy F Gibbons Rock and ROll gearhead in the background? I'll be ordering a copy ion a few days.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: AndyR on April 13, 2008, 11:30:51 AM
Just replied to your "humbucker in a 75 Tele" thread - and now I read this...

I think you need the PRS Soapbar!! (Sorry...) Leave the tele as is and save for this.

I tried one the other week at Turnkey in London. The feel of the guitar itself wasn't quite "me" but it was very very nice. It has probably helped push me towards a possible "MQs in my Epi SG" decision - thanks for reminding that I have actually played P90 style pickups and liked it a lot, I'd completely forgotten...

We tried the PRS for 10-15 mins, I also tried a Gibson 335, and a cherry Les Paul (my favourite of the three) - but I ended up elsewhere buying a Gibson Explorer (played that one for 45 minutes!)

It sounds to me like the PRS "spoke" to you - that's how I buy guitars. Doesn't matter how good they're meant to be, if it doesn't speak to me then it's not mine. Equally, when it does speak to me... (I can't seem to get that across to the missus, when she goes "why don't you try it?" - at least she was the one who got her plastic out at the end of the 45 minutes, what a lovely woman she is!)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 11:57:35 AM
Cheers fpor the Tele reply Andy - it is a nice humbucking tone that I am after. I was trying to get it without busting the bank but it looks as though not messing with the tele is the best thing to do. I'll be saving hard until I get a PRS!!!

Good stuff with getting your lady to pay for a guitar - this plan hasn't worked for me just yet!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: AndyR on April 13, 2008, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
Cheers fpor the Tele reply Andy - it is a nice humbucking tone that I am after. I was trying to get it without busting the bank but it looks as though not messing with the tele is the best thing to do. I'll be saving hard until I get a PRS!!!

Good stuff with getting your lady to pay for a guitar - this plan hasn't worked for me just yet!


Yeah, I must admit, I seem to be very lucky in my choice of spouse! (Or is it her choice of me?!)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 13, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
Just to help your PRS GAS I've been playing my Mira for the last couple of hours.

It's just plain rocks.  Best guitar I've ever played, best tone I've ever had.

Awesome   :twisted:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: ailean on April 13, 2008, 02:38:59 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Just to help your PRS GAS I've been playing my Mira for the last couple of hours.

It's just plain rocks.  Best guitar I've ever played, best tone I've ever had.

Awesome   :twisted:


very helpful I'm sure :)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: ailean
Quote from: Twinfan
Just to help your PRS GAS I've been playing my Mira for the last couple of hours.

It's just plain rocks.  Best guitar I've ever played, best tone I've ever had.

Awesome   :twisted:


very helpful I'm sure :)


Indeed. The most helpful addition to this thread yet!!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Dakine on April 13, 2008, 03:09:49 PM
PRS Satin SCT

and

PRS SC245
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 13, 2008, 03:14:27 PM
Cheers Dakine - the 245 looks awesome.

Not sure why it is but I did convince myself it was the humbucker sound I was after but when I tried the soapbar it was way better than what I expected.

I know P90s are effectively single coils but why do they sound much meatier than a standard single coil? Do they have more windings hence the bigger size?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 13, 2008, 03:25:39 PM
Here's a little extract from Wiki on P90s:
Quote
The P-90 is a single coil electric guitar pickup produced by Gibson since 1946. Having a more complex architecture and larger dimensions than Fender's single coils, it is occasionally mistaken for a humbucker. According to the Gibson website, "the lean and mean P-90 offers a stellar combination of high output and biting treble response."
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 13, 2008, 09:27:06 PM
Ian, I'm a fellow PRS GAS sufferer - the objects of my desire are a Tremonti Signature and an SC245. I was converted to PRS by playing a Custom 22 with a wide-thin neck and a Singlecut Satin Trem - I'd always thought of them as too 'showy' before. I now spend most of my spare time dreaming up new and creative ways in which I could possibly afford them, and I'm certainly not helped every time Dakine posts pics of his SC245.  :wink:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Dakine on April 14, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
what, this hunk a wood?  :P

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01488.jpg)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: _tom_ on April 14, 2008, 02:23:56 PM
Dakine, I still love how that PRS looks (not the red one, the other) :) I've recently been having GAS for a PRS, I think even their SE series are great guitars. The new SE Custom in black/grey looks nice http://www.gear4music.com/Electric_Guitars/PRS_Electric/PRS_SE_Custom_Stoptail__Grey_Blacksefv_5.html

Depends how grey/washed out it looks in person. I'm kinda considering selling my Pearl and saving up for a Mira at the minute though :o
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: badgermark on April 14, 2008, 07:45:56 PM
The grey-black singlecut SE is more black than gray, and looks lovely.

I'm actually very tempted to save up for a singlecut PRS SE, anyone know the main differences between the Tremonti and the SE, all I can see is the position of the controls. Any other differences?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 14, 2008, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Dakine
what, this hunk a wood?  :P

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01488.jpg)


Can someone please stop Dakine posting pics of his PRS family!!

Please - it makes me feel sad.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 14, 2008, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: Ian Price


Can someone please stop Dakine posting pics of his PRS family!!

Please - it makes me feel sad.


It has the same effect on me - it's like a form of torture. But at the same time, quite pleasant...

Quote from: badgermark
The grey-black singlecut SE is more black than gray, and looks lovely.

I'm actually very tempted to save up for a singlecut PRS SE, anyone know the main differences between the Tremonti and the SE, all I can see is the position of the controls. Any other differences?


Main differences between the Tremonti SE and the Singlecut SE is the wood - Tremonti is an all-mahogany body, Singlecut has a maple top and a flame veneer. Pickups are different, and the Singlecut doesn't have binding on the neck, whereas the Tremonti does (could be a dealbreaker if you're used to unbound necks).

I played a Tremonti a while back (2 years) and wasn't too impressed. It sounded quite muddy and undefined. However, I played a Singlecut and was impressed enough to buy one. It now houses my Holy Diver set. My only criticisms are that the tuners suck, and the fretwire is quite soft. Other than that, they are excellent, and given how cheap they are cropping up now (£330ish), a fantastic buy.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: badgermark on April 14, 2008, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: Simon D
Quote from: Ian Price


Can someone please stop Dakine posting pics of his PRS family!!

Please - it makes me feel sad.


It has the same effect on me - it's like a form of torture. But at the same time, quite pleasant...

Quote from: badgermark
The grey-black singlecut SE is more black than gray, and looks lovely.

I'm actually very tempted to save up for a singlecut PRS SE, anyone know the main differences between the Tremonti and the SE, all I can see is the position of the controls. Any other differences?


Main differences between the Tremonti SE and the Singlecut SE is the wood - Tremonti is an all-mahogany body, Singlecut has a maple top and a flame veneer. Pickups are different, and the Singlecut doesn't have binding on the neck, whereas the Tremonti does (could be a dealbreaker if you're used to unbound necks).

I played a Tremonti a while back (2 years) and wasn't too impressed. It sounded quite muddy and undefined. However, I played a Singlecut and was impressed enough to buy one. It now houses my Holy Diver set. My only criticisms are that the tuners suck, and the fretwire is quite soft. Other than that, they are excellent, and given how cheap they are cropping up now (£330ish), a fantastic buy.


Thanks for that, i saw the veneer thing, but not sure what a veneer was... I'm used to slightly wonky tuners (mexican fenders are a favourite of mine...), so no worries there!

Sod the pickups, this will house a MQ set (returning my tele to a esquire). I'll try them out and see what feels better. Damn that big Tremonti on the headstock though...
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 14, 2008, 09:45:38 PM
Quote from: badgermark


Thanks for that, i saw the veneer thing, but not sure what a veneer was... I'm used to slightly wonky tuners (mexican fenders are a favourite of mine...), so no worries there!

Sod the pickups, this will house a MQ set (returning my tele to a esquire). I'll try them out and see what feels better. Damn that big Tremonti on the headstock though...


No worries, you're welcome. The BIG Tremonti logo was offputting to me too, and I like the guy's playing! It's no coincedence that his name is now on the (removable) trussrod cover of his US Sig model, rather than on the fretboard.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2008, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: Simon D
It's no coincedence that his name is now on the (removable) trussrod cover of his US Sig model, rather than on the fretboard.

I read that, apparently, getting rid of the prominent logo was his own idea.  A nice touch of modesty.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 14, 2008, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: Simon D
It's no coincedence that his name is now on the (removable) trussrod cover of his US Sig model, rather than on the fretboard.

I read that, apparently, getting rid of the prominent logo was his own idea.  A nice touch of modesty.


Yeah, I thought so too. They even supply a blank trussrod cover when you buy one, so you can take his name off completely.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 14, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
It's nice to see a bit of modesty every now and then.

I'm pretty sure that one of the Max Cavalera signature guitars comes with only 4 strings - did I dream this or is it true?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: FernandoDuarte on April 14, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
It's nice to see a bit of modesty every now and then.

I'm pretty sure that one of the Max Cavalera signature guitars comes with only 4 strings - did I dream this or is it true?


Probably dream... Never heard it before... :?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2008, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: FernandoEsteves
Quote from: Ian Price
It's nice to see a bit of modesty every now and then.

I'm pretty sure that one of the Max Cavalera signature guitars comes with only 4 strings - did I dream this or is it true?


Probably dream... Never heard it before... :?

I think Max himself only uses four strings, but I'd surprised if they sell the guitars without the extra two!  

I suppose if it was a super-accurate copy like the Fender "Tribute" Lenny/Blackie/Rory Gallagher Strats they might go for 4-string authenticity. :lol:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Ian Price on April 14, 2008, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: FernandoEsteves
Quote from: Ian Price
It's nice to see a bit of modesty every now and then.

I'm pretty sure that one of the Max Cavalera signature guitars comes with only 4 strings - did I dream this or is it true?


Probably dream... Never heard it before... :?

I think Max himself only uses four strings, but I'd surprised if they sell the guitars without the extra two!  

I suppose if it was a super-accurate copy like the Fender "Tribute" Lenny/Blackie/Rory Gallagher Strats they might go for 4-string authenticity. :lol:


I'm getting all of my old guitar mags out. I'm certain I read this somewhere!! I may have been drunk at the time though!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2008, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: Ian Price
I'm getting all of my old guitar mags out. I'm certain I read this somewhere!! I may have been drunk at the time though!

I'll leave that to you!  I have far too many old guitar mags to start wading through...!  :wink:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: hunter on April 15, 2008, 05:34:09 AM
Well I think there might not be many guitarists out there who have NOT yet GASed for a PRS.

Guess that must be like with some gorgeous celebrities, some shapes and proportions just appeal to everyone, and if that doesn't work, guitar makers can still invest in marketing & advertising to make it happen.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: hamfist on April 15, 2008, 07:24:47 AM
I don't want to interupt this PRS party, but I've owned a couple of PRS SE's, and I could never get the intonation spot on with their hardtails. Anyone else have this issue, or is it just me ?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 15, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: hamfist
I don't want to interupt this PRS party, but I've owned a couple of PRS SE's, and I could never get the intonation spot on with their hardtails. Anyone else have this issue, or is it just me ?


Mine's ok, but I cheated and took it to a professional tech. Those SE stoptails are quite imprecise things though.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Will on April 15, 2008, 08:21:40 PM
I played a few SE's, they felt a bit toy like, nothing substantial and by no means comparable to my Epi. Although I think I may have a good bit of wood on this one :)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2008, 09:17:38 PM
Well my PRS GAS hasn't subsided so I'm checking one of these out next week (with moons, not birds)  :roll:


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ledzep14/IMGP3022.jpg)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 15, 2008, 09:20:24 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Well my PRS GAS hasn't subsided so I'm checking one of these out next week (with moons, not birds)  :roll:


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ledzep14/IMGP3022.jpg)


The birds are gorgeous though!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Will on April 15, 2008, 09:23:01 PM
TF, what model is that? I do not understand PRS model No designation at all :?
I ask as I think that is a very nice one, and its not often I see one I like, 22 frets, hardtail, toggle switch rather than rotary etc

+1 on the moons
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 15, 2008, 09:23:07 PM
I'm getting a CE24 Maple Top if it damn well kills me.

Seeing as I have money now it looks highly likely I'll get such a prized guitar. Or the ESP Horizon I've been looking at, but that's another story along with many others.

Quote from: Will
TF, what model is that? I do not understand PRS model No designation at all :?

CE22 Full Mahogany?

My observations:
"PRS" logo, so that makes it a High Gloss Model?
Toggle pickup switch
Finish (natural)

But then again, the actual model there could be the CE Limited Edition models which have birds, but I dunno if it's 22 and 24, *shrugs*
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 15, 2008, 09:27:24 PM
Quote from: Jonny
I'm getting a CE24 Maple Top if it damn well kills me.

Seeing as I have money now it looks highly likely I'll get such a prized guitar. Or the ESP Horizon I've been looking at, but that's another story along with many others.



Although the Horizon might not look as nice as the PRSs, mine ouperforms the different Custom and standard 24s that I've played, but that might be just because I prefer the neck profile and the ebony fretboard of the ESP.

That all being said.... The new Hiland signature looks superb!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 15, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: Jonny
I'm getting a CE24 Maple Top if it damn well kills me.

Seeing as I have money now it looks highly likely I'll get such a prized guitar. Or the ESP Horizon I've been looking at, but that's another story along with many others.



Although the Horizon might not look as nice as the PRSs, mine ouperforms the different Custom and standard 24s that I've played, but that might be just because I prefer the neck profile and the ebony fretboard of the ESP.

That all being said.... The new Hiland signature looks superb!

The Horizon II FR has a Thin U Contour neck, and most likely I'll want a wide thin PRS neck, I don't know the comparison between them though.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2008, 09:33:28 PM
It's the new PRS McCarty Korina  :D  22 frets, thicker body than a Custom or Standard 22.

I'd love one with birds (like my Mira) but PRS has now moved to bird 'outlines' on all models.  Nice up close, but as you move away the birds disappear.

Not worth the upcharge now in my opinion  :(

(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/558/1815008/Photo4_ced8e-Original.jpg)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 15, 2008, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Will
TF, what model is that? I do not understand PRS model No designation at all :?


That looks like a Korina McCarty to me. Bit hard to tell in the light it's been shot in.

Where are you going to check that out TF, or is it secret?  :wink:

Edit: TF beat me to the post. Yep, I'm a muppet.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 15, 2008, 09:37:09 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
It's the new PRS McCarty Korina  :D  22 frets, thicker body than a Custom or Standard 22.

I'd love one with birds (like my Mira) but PRS has now moved to bird 'outlines' on all models.  Nice up close, but as you move away the birds disappear.

Not worth the upcharge now in my opinion  :(

Better buy my PRS quickly then. I don't want these silly outlined birds! I want full birds! As if they're gonna fly off the fretboard damn it!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2008, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: Simon D
Where are you going to check that out TF, or is it secret?  :wink:


I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you  ;)

It's a fairly local PRS dealer.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 15, 2008, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Simon D
Where are you going to check that out TF, or is it secret?  :wink:


I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you  ;)

It's a fairly local PRS dealer.


Hehe, given your location, I can probably narrow it down to which one! Wouldn't worry though, in my current financial state, I'm the last person who's going to beat you to it.  :wink:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: ilÿti on April 15, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
I'd love one with birds (like my Mira) but PRS has now moved to bird 'outlines' on all models.  Nice up close, but as you move away the birds disappear.

And likewise, from more than 2 feet away the "moons" look like regular dots.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2008, 10:01:41 PM
It's not that dealer  :)

Plus I have first dibs on the one that's coming  ;)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: ilyti
And likewise, from more than 2 feet away the "moons" look like regular dots.


Yeah, very true.  But you don't pay extra for those  ;)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Stevepage on April 15, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
Here's my baby
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/maliciousteve/PRS.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/maliciousteve/DSC01153.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/maliciousteve/DSC01150.jpg)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: sambo on April 15, 2008, 10:11:41 PM
Lurrrrrvly, Steve!  8)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 15, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
It's not that dealer  :)

Plus I have first dibs on the one that's coming  ;)


Oh, wait a minute. Might it be in a picturesque little town?

On the subject of those birds, I like the old style ones, new ones not so much. I really want to buy my Tremonti while the old birds are still available. The SC245 doesn't matter, cos I want one with dots.

People need to stop posting pics of their PRSs. It's making my GAS worse.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Jonny on April 15, 2008, 10:20:39 PM
EDIT:
http://www.gearacquisitionsyndrome.com/2007/08/guitars.html

Right hand side.

And he's recently acquired a '07 McCarty Korina!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Philly Q on April 15, 2008, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Well my PRS GAS hasn't subsided so I'm checking one of these out next week (with moons, not birds)  :roll:

Well, I'm going to save that picture as it's the nearest I'm going to get to a McCarty Korina in the foreseeable future! :)

I'll be interested to know what you think, Dave!
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 16, 2008, 08:34:17 AM
I'll let you know Phil  :)

And Simon D - maybe  ;)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 17, 2008, 09:17:06 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
And Simon D - maybe  ;)


Thought so - that'd be my first stop for a PRS too - big range and competitive pricing.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 17, 2008, 09:28:03 PM
Yup.  It's where I got my Mira from.  He seems to get the best stuff too, maybe first dibs from the importer?
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 17, 2008, 09:30:27 PM
I think it must be, yeah. A few months back, he had a 10-top Tremonti in gray black, with a really tight flame, which I still regret not buying.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 17, 2008, 09:36:03 PM
Yeah, I know the guitar.  Beautiful.
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 17, 2008, 09:57:21 PM
I wonder if he'd be able to get me another one like that, if i asked really nicely?  :wink:
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Twinfan on April 18, 2008, 12:14:22 PM
Quote from: Simon D
I think it must be, yeah. A few months back, he had a 10-top Tremonti in gray black, with a really tight flame, which I still regret not buying.


This one's up for sale there now at £1999  ;)

(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2222.jpg)
Title: PRS GAS alert
Post by: Simon D on April 18, 2008, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Simon D
I think it must be, yeah. A few months back, he had a 10-top Tremonti in gray black, with a really tight flame, which I still regret not buying.


This one's up for sale there now at £1999  ;)

(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2222.jpg)


Stop it! It's like bloody torture, it really is... :wink: