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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 12:50:33 PM

Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 12:50:33 PM
Just got back from Boston with my new geetar:

ESP Horizon Standard 2008.

3 piece maple neck thru
ebony fingerboard
Mahogany wings
Quilted Maple top
Gotoh Magnum lock tuners
Seymour Jb/59
Volume has a push/push for coil tapping,
Gotoh Tuneomatic - Atleast I think its Gotoh, haven't actually taken it off to see yet.

Either way - Plays amazingly, superb action, amazing frets, just everything I could ask for. Sounds massive, and looks awesome.

Here's some shots:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/noodleplugerine/IMG_0909.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/noodleplugerine/IMG_0923.jpg)

And a few more shots on my photobucket:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v204/noodleplugerine/

I know it doesn't compete with Nolly's black machine - But its lovely nonetheless.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: Nolly on April 14, 2008, 12:54:16 PM
Dude, that is a lovely guitar, no doubt about it! I gassed hard for one of those in that exact colour for a fair while. In fact, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for my unorthodox taste in control layout!

Congrats man!

EDIT: How are those the self-locking Gotoh's? Doug's got a set on order for my B2 (apparently noone in the UK stocks the gunmetal ones), and I'm really intruigued to know how they work.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: Nolly
Dude, that is a lovely guitar, no doubt about it! I gassed hard for one of those in that exact colour for a fair while. In fact, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for my unorthodox taste in control layout!

Congrats man!

EDIT: How are those the self-locking Gotoh's? Doug's got a set on order for my B2 (apparently noone in the UK stocks the gunmetal ones), and I'm really intruigued to know how they work.


Its a quite cool mechanism, no screwing or anything, it locks as you wind it!

I haven't had a proper chance to test them out yet, and I normally use Sperzels, but this seems to be a perfectly well locked, and they're solid enough for you to not worry about knocking it out of tune etc.

So far I give them top marks.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: dave_mc on April 14, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
badass  :twisted:
Title: New Axe:
Post by: opprobrium_9 on April 14, 2008, 01:26:43 PM
Tasty ESP tastiness!  And noooo Abalone!   PDT_003   I salute you sir! (don't you just hate those abalone laded ESPs? Ugg *vomits* - but then recovers after looking at the new blue!)
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Post by: ailean on April 14, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
Great looking axe :) Good catch!
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Post by: Roobubba on April 14, 2008, 01:51:29 PM
Looks great - nice buy!

Roo
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Post by: Fikealox on April 14, 2008, 01:55:46 PM
Awesome, man :D Horizons are one of my very favourite guitars. One day, when I'm less desperately poor (and when I have enough strats), I'll buy one :D
Title: New Axe:
Post by: Nolly on April 14, 2008, 01:55:48 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: Nolly
Dude, that is a lovely guitar, no doubt about it! I gassed hard for one of those in that exact colour for a fair while. In fact, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for my unorthodox taste in control layout!

Congrats man!

EDIT: How are those the self-locking Gotoh's? Doug's got a set on order for my B2 (apparently noone in the UK stocks the gunmetal ones), and I'm really intruigued to know how they work.


Its a quite cool mechanism, no screwing or anything, it locks as you wind it!

I haven't had a proper chance to test them out yet, and I normally use Sperzels, but this seems to be a perfectly well locked, and they're solid enough for you to not worry about knocking it out of tune etc.

So far I give them top marks.


Ah cool, sounds good. But does that mean the mechanism unlocks if you detune the string?
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 02:24:08 PM
Quote from: Nolly
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: Nolly
Dude, that is a lovely guitar, no doubt about it! I gassed hard for one of those in that exact colour for a fair while. In fact, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for my unorthodox taste in control layout!

Congrats man!

EDIT: How are those the self-locking Gotoh's? Doug's got a set on order for my B2 (apparently noone in the UK stocks the gunmetal ones), and I'm really intruigued to know how they work.


Its a quite cool mechanism, no screwing or anything, it locks as you wind it!

I haven't had a proper chance to test them out yet, and I normally use Sperzels, but this seems to be a perfectly well locked, and they're solid enough for you to not worry about knocking it out of tune etc.

So far I give them top marks.


Ah cool, sounds good. But does that mean the mechanism unlocks if you detune the string?


Its related to the string tension - So I guess at lower tunings the lock will be weaker - But I had it in drop C and it seemed pretty secure - So maybe it only deactivates at very low tension.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: gingataff on April 14, 2008, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Nolly
Quote from: noodleplugerine


Its a quite cool mechanism, no screwing or anything, it locks as you wind it!



Ah cool, sounds good. But does that mean the mechanism unlocks if you detune the string?


Not usually, the part of the peg that you insert the string into screws onto the main shaft (which on some models is height adjustable * ) and as you turn the peg  button, with a string in of course, they naturally close together locking the string. To remove the string you need to loosen it and more often than not use a coin to unlock the screwed on top part.

* The height adjustable part is very fiddly, if you screw it down too low it can seize up and you can't raise the height anymore, this happened to me but the missus made a quick phone call to Gotoh's vice president and he said he'd fix it for free. That's good customer service :)
Title: New Axe:
Post by: Roobubba on April 14, 2008, 03:40:21 PM
So what happened to the camo viper, then? You still loving that? How do the guitars compare (clearly they're quite different in style...)?

Oh, and this thread is worthless* without (sound) clips! :)

Roo


*it isn't, of course :)
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: Roobubba
So what happened to the camo viper, then? You still loving that? How do the guitars compare (clearly they're quite different in style...)?

Oh, and this thread is worthless* without (sound) clips! :)

Roo


*it isn't, of course :)


How do they compare?

Its mostly in sound really. I hate labelling guitars as rhythm or lead - But the maple in the Horizon definitely comes through and it has a searing tone, while that of the viper is very thick and middy. Both guitars play superbly, and feel rather similar - The neck of the Horizon is thicker than that of the Viper, but still very comfortable - While the other major difference is the scale length.

Just picked the two up and the Viper seems heavier - But will need to double check that - Neither of them have any balance issues.

The pickups are ofcourse different - I am most likely going to get some BKPs for the Horizon, and shove the Seymours into my Ibanez.

I'm thinking of a Nailbomb/Cold Sweat or Holy Diver/Cold Sweat combo.

The JB is actually a very nice pickup - Great pinches from it, and good harmonic response.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: Jonny on April 14, 2008, 05:43:43 PM
Jealoussssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! :cry:
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Post by: Simon D on April 14, 2008, 08:21:52 PM
Nice buy. Did you have any problems bringing it back in from the States - import tax or anything like that?
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Post by: il˙ti on April 14, 2008, 08:43:21 PM
Beauty. Someone I know from another forum got the same guitar about 6 months ago and he loved it. A pair of BKPs seems to be all it needs to reach perfection.
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Post by: Johnny Mac on April 14, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Nice guitar, it looks like a swimming pool!

What Bkps are you going to put in it?
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Post by: noodleplugerine on April 14, 2008, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Simon D
Nice buy. Did you have any problems bringing it back in from the States - import tax or anything like that?


I paid duties - But probably could have got away without if I had tried.

And the pickups will be either Nailbomb/Cold Sweat or Holy Diver/Cold Sweat - So undecided =(
Title: New Axe:
Post by: Ian Price on April 14, 2008, 10:38:40 PM
Awesome - and I don't normally like ESPs!!
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Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2008, 10:40:38 PM
I don't know what's come over me, I keep seeing superstrats I like the look of  :? !  It is a beauty. :)
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Post by: Jonny on April 15, 2008, 12:38:42 AM
One thing I don't like in some ESPs are the LTD Deluxe (I think) headstocks. The one that looks like some bored RnD worker who decided it would be fun to incoporate his previous job as a dildo factory supplier into the design.

But that's just me. Most likely.
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Post by: opprobrium_9 on April 15, 2008, 01:10:46 AM
Where in Boston did you snatch that up by chance?
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Post by: Roobubba on April 15, 2008, 07:25:49 AM
Quote from: Jonny
One thing I don't like in some ESPs are the LTD Deluxe (I think) headstocks. The one that looks like some bored RnD worker who decided it would be fun to incoporate his previous job as a dildo factory supplier into the design.

But that's just me. Most likely.


:D made me chuckle
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Post by: 38thBeatle on April 15, 2008, 07:31:50 AM
I like that guitar very much. Great finish on it.
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Post by: adamj on April 15, 2008, 11:07:32 AM
not fancy one with a f rose? still a beaut tho!
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 15, 2008, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: adamjowens
not fancy one with a f rose? still a beaut tho!


The OFR one is alot more expensive and the 2008 colour is hideous.

I bought it from a guy on Ebay and had it sent to the house of my family in Boston Opro.

I saw alot of ESPs on 48th street in NYC though, no Horizons though - Lots of MIIs and Vipers etc.
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Post by: BigK on April 15, 2008, 03:47:56 PM
Very nice buy mate. Its got a beautiful maple cap. Im very Jealous  :twisted:
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Post by: Crazy_Joe on April 15, 2008, 03:50:59 PM
Nice!
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 16, 2008, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: Roobubba
So what happened to the camo viper, then? You still loving that? How do the guitars compare (clearly they're quite different in style...)?

Oh, and this thread is worthless* without (sound) clips! :)

Roo


*it isn't, of course :)


Ask and you shall receive - This was done with a PC Mic, in one take at 8:30 in the morning - I haven't slept all night. How brutal am I!  :twisted:

ESP Horizon straight into Engl Screamer at bedroom levels.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=671776

Rhythm was done with Bridge 59.

First solo was done with bridge 59, 2nd solo with neck jazz.

Sorry about the cr@p sound, was just me having some fun - Will be buying one of those portable tascams soon, like the one Dave bought.
Title: New Axe:
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 26, 2008, 12:16:01 AM
Another cr@p recording done to try out some backing tracks I downloaded.

Pretty good backing track - Awful recording again, the mic can't pick up any notes - its quite funny.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=671776&songID=6492070