Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Benkenove on April 20, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
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Hi Guys,
While my 3 sets of pickups are being made, I ordered another guitar, a Caparison ORBIT, and need to hear your advises for pickups...
Here you have the guitar:
(http://www.kyowashokai.co.jp/caparison%20orbit/orbit%20prowhite.jpg)
And its specs:
Body Material: Mahogany
Neck Material: Hard Maple
Neck Joint: Neck Through Body (so the hard maple goes all through into the mahogany body, off course :P)
The guitar will be tuned in C (standard C-C), and I play Death Melodic Metal... (like In Flames, Soilwork, Dark Tranquilllity, etc).
My question... which one do you think would be the best for the guitar and style ???
Painkiller ???.... Nailbomb ??? any other ???
What do you think for the neck... Trigoly suit ?? or Sinner ???
Thank you so much for your help, let's see if I can clear up my mind !!! (this is really HARD to choose...!!! I wish there were some neutral irfs of each pickups... (same guitar, same amp, same eq, and same riff with each guitar... that way we could really HEAR the real differences :( )
Thanks again
Ben.
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For the In Flames tone I would recommend the Miracle Man.
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Ceramic Warpig for the bridge i would say, not sure about the neck pickup though, but it needs to be something out of the hotter single coil selection to match the CWP.
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I'd say Miracle Man or the Warpig.
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CWP, Trilogy
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I would disagree with the other chaps (sort of). Having played a friends Nailbomb-equipped Ibanez (mahogany bodied and maple-necked like your Caparison), I would recommend the Nailbomb in the bridge. Totally nailed Soilwork's tone.
Although another friend of mine has a Dean V with a Warpig which does the job nicely, and I'm sure that would also get you in the right ballpark.
Neck-wise I have no idea as I'm not familiar with BK single-coils!
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Thanks for your advises...
Well, Personally, I dont think the warpig is for me... I think it's a great pickups, but maybe it's too much saturated for my taste... too much fuzzz for me.
Nailbomb could be a great option... and that soildwork tone would be the one to seek...
Miracle man... ummm.. I've got that for my Caparison Angelus (I havent received the pickups yet, cause made the order the other day), but would be nice to try something different...
What would you say between the Nailbomb and the Painkiller ??
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every guitarrist should get a holy diver from their dads when they reach 18
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Based on your response to the comments here, I'd suggest that you send an e-mail to Tim aking his advice. My inclination would be ceramic warpig (or even alnico V warpig, given the more "death" nature of your target tone), but then I'm sure you could find a Nailbomb or Painkiller very interesting, too. Tim would be best placed to advise you, though - so off you go! And let us know what he says, too! :)
Roo
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Thanks for your replies...
Yes, I asked Tim, just wanted to contrast his vision (the most important, due to he knows his stuff more than anyone), to the rest of you, (who more than sure are more METAL HEADS ;) )..
He recomended me the PAINKILLER ... 100% for sure :).
Well, I think I will simply follow his advises... ;)
Thanks again for everything !!! (I will post pics and try to record something when I receive and install them all)
Ben.
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I'd say go with Painkiller. I put one in my old Kramer, and it's killer. I like the crisp, clear sound - the highs cut like a knife.
I've also got a Caparison TATII, and want to change the pickups. One thing to note though, is the mounting plate on the Caparisons are different to normal pickups - there's two screws on the left side and one on the right. I think you'd have to drill into the body and change the pickup surrounds for the one-a-side mounting screws to fit.
If Tim reads this - can you make pickups with the Caparison style mounting plate?
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Thanks for your replies...
Yes, I asked Tim, just wanted to contrast his vision (the most important, due to he knows his stuff more than anyone), to the rest of you, (who more than sure are more METAL HEADS ;) )..
He recomended me the PAINKILLER ... 100% for sure :).
Well, I think I will simply follow his advises... ;)
Thanks again for everything !!! (I will post pics and try to record something when I receive and install them all)
Ben.
Don't be worried - Tim's a metalhead too last time I checked.
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Thanks for your answer...
Could you please post a pic of that ??? :! I think it would help Tim to see how they are...
Also, are that way in all the Caparison, or just in the TATII ??
Thanks again !!! and really, those pics would be awesome helpfully
Ben.
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Thanks for your answer...
Could you please post a pic of that ??? :! I think it would help Tim to see how they are...
Also, are that way in all the Caparison, or just in the TATII ??
Thanks again !!! and really, those pics would be awesome helpfully
Ben.
Yeah, I'll put a picture on here later - for now you can see it on the Orbit picture at the top in your post.
If you look closely, you can see two screws at the top above the bridge pickup, and just one at the bottom. I think this is the same for all Caparison humbuckers, and there's a thread or two about this on the Caparison forum.
Most people get around it by drilling an extra hole into the guitar (for the ones without pickup surrounds, like the Horus) or buying new pickup surrounds for the TATII/Orbit, but I'll be damned if I'm doing that to mine.
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Well, I guess I will have to replace the pickup rings...
Anyone knows where can I find some good black rings ?? (they would be for the Caparison angelus, and for the Orbit) ???
Thanks !!!
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If you want a Trilogy and are in the uk or want to pay for overseas shipping, I have a neck model for sale :)
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Well, I guess I will have to replace the pickup rings...
Anyone knows where can I find some good black rings ?? (they would be for the Caparison angelus, and for the Orbit) ???
Thanks !!!
Yeah, not a big deal at all come to think of it - for the models with the pickup rings. Not so easy for the Horus owners.
Bareknuckle sell pickup rings in the "Accessories" part of the webshop. Only £3 a pair :lol:
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Yeah, not a big deal at all come to think of it - for the models with the pickup rings. Not so easy for the Horus owners.
Bareknuckle sell pickup rings in the "Accessories" part of the webshop. Only £3 a pair :lol:
Ohhhh now I see it !!! thanks
(weird, I told it to Tim, and refered me to another website... strange...)
Now the good questions...
- Plastic or Metal rings ??
- Slanted or With Curved Bottom ???(for the orbit and angelus ?? I dont know cause I havent received the guitars yet).
P.S. _tom_ sorry but, I already ordered the 4 sets of pickups ;) . Thanks anyway. (I will also get the sinner neck :D ).
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Pickup rings :
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=24_58&products_id=143
I don't think the Orbit has an arched top, so normal flat rings I believe. It'll probably be the high sided type at the bridge, and it'll be plastic.
Careful with the single coil for the neck of the Orbit/Horus - see the triangular sort of shape cut into the wood there, well the pickup base is that shape also.
Probably OK to install single coil pickup in there, but IMO it would look a mess.
I'd get a custom made pickup to go in there personally.
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Well, I guess I will have to replace the pickup rings...
Anyone knows where can I find some good black rings ?? (they would be for the Caparison angelus, and for the Orbit) ???
Thanks !!!
Bare Knuckle sell them ;)
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Pickup rings ordered from BK :D... (the only thing is that they dont have it in stock at the moment, but I can wait).
Thanks for everything, adn I will try to make a review of each pickups when I receive it... (if I can, the best way as possible, with clips, and no words).
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Dont worry, my Sinner neck will have that triangle shape ;)... so it will match it perfectly ;)..
I'm really dying to get the pickups (and also the guitars !!! counting the days).
Pickup rings :
Careful with the single coil for the neck of the Orbit/Horus - see the triangular sort of shape cut into the wood there, well the pickup base is that shape also.
Probably OK to install single coil pickup in there, but IMO it would look a mess.
I'd get a custom made pickup to go in there personally.