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Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 10:58:40 PM
Done on my new Maplin's rig that I got today.

All in all cost less than £100
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:00:45 PM
Different mic position.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:01:51 PM
Another one.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:03:25 PM
Last one.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: Jonny on May 04, 2008, 11:06:31 PM
Picture of said-Maplins rig?

I LIKE YOUR TONE! It's missing something though I think.

EDIT: I like 1 and 2 best.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:09:26 PM
Rig comprised of two Maplin's brand mics (one from Prosound and the other from the Yoga range) held in a triple headed mic bit.
Maplin's own mic - line voltage converter

going into a Denon Minidisc deck that came off a car boot sale for a tenner.

I prefer the sound of the second mic placement (clips 2-4).

Guitar was my Maverick F1/Streetfighter hybrid loaded with a ceramic Warpig set into an Orange Tiny Terror.

Pedals were a Boss SD-1 and a Danelectro FAB Flanger.

The clips are just me noodling around really and the playing is a bit shaky in places.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: Jonny on May 04, 2008, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Guitar was my Maverick F1/Streetfighter hybrid loaded with a ceramic Warpig set into an Orange Tiny Terror.

I thought TT couldn't (as much as people tried to set it as) play Metal. Your playing, if I'm not mistaken is Metal. Unless you really like Jazz and shred into blues free-form odyssey-esque solos.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Picture of said-Maplins rig?

I LIKE YOUR TONE! It's missing something though I think.
I don't have a picture hosting site account and I need to dismantle the setup to clear the way to my bed so I'm sorry I can't do pics.

What was weird was that the boost from the converter meant that I needed to place the mics at least a foot away from the source (and these are cardioid mics) to avoid clipping. I also had to turn down the volume on the amp a fair bit so it is kind of on the verge of the point where it isn't quite leaving the compression point.

I think that those are the reasons along with it being so cheaply done that you feel it is missing something.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 04, 2008, 11:19:16 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Guitar was my Maverick F1/Streetfighter hybrid loaded with a ceramic Warpig set into an Orange Tiny Terror.

I thought TT couldn't (as much as people tried to set it as) play Metal. Your playing, if I'm not mistaken is Metal. Unless you really like Jazz and shred into blues free-form odyssey-esque solos.
It is a gain monster it's just very midsy and lots of metal players aren't so keen on the warmth of the class A structure I think.

The heaviest sections are done with the Boss SD-1 on max volume and max gain so that helps too!

All amp settings and mic placements are the same on clips 2-4 (they are in fact from the same take).
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: _tom_ on May 04, 2008, 11:21:17 PM
Sounds quite good given the maplins rig :lol:

Quote from: Jonny
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Guitar was my Maverick F1/Streetfighter hybrid loaded with a ceramic Warpig set into an Orange Tiny Terror.

I thought TT couldn't (as much as people tried to set it as) play Metal. Your playing, if I'm not mistaken is Metal. Unless you really like Jazz and shred into blues free-form odyssey-esque solos.


Chappers proves otherwise http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpZoWsFlJQ
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on May 04, 2008, 11:47:30 PM
Quote from: Jonny
Picture of said-Maplins rig?

I LIKE YOUR TONE! It's missing something though I think.


+1, nice and crunchy but it seems to be lacking a little body, can't put my finger on it, you may want to layer the guitars and screw a bit with the panning.


and Jonny mate, TAKE DOWN THAT PICTURE OF GWYNET PALTROW!!!  I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE YOU WITH DROOL!!!  PDT_046
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: PoshCollins on May 05, 2008, 12:32:52 AM
You honestly sure its Gwyneth?
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: Jonny on May 05, 2008, 01:22:37 AM
Quote from: opprobrium_9
and Jonny mate, TAKE DOWN THAT PICTURE OF GWYNET PALTROW!!!  I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE YOU WITH DROOL!!!  PDT_046

Well too bad! You'll have to!
Quote from: PoshCollins
You honestly sure its Gwyneth?

Yes it is the beauty herself.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 05, 2008, 11:05:29 AM
I think the lack of body has to do with the distance from the cab more than  anything.

I could look into getting a third mic and close micing the cab but I'd need to get a small microphone mixer with panning.

The Yoga is on the left channel and the Prosound is on the right if you are interested at all.

The third mic I would put central and not as loud as the others so that the signal booster didn't make it overpower the recording amp.

This is without any production whatsoever so there is no multi-tracking, no compression and no EQ on any of the clips.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: PoshCollins on May 05, 2008, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Jonny
Quote from: opprobrium_9
and Jonny mate, TAKE DOWN THAT PICTURE OF GWYNET PALTROW!!!  I DON'T WANT TO ASSOCIATE YOU WITH DROOL!!!  PDT_046

Well too bad! You'll have to!
Quote from: PoshCollins
You honestly sure its Gwyneth?

Yes it is the beauty herself.


You'll be spared only because you've asked me to find you a PGM  PDT_028 . Some people need some taste :P * Prepares for the Ibanez haters... *.

I know this is off topic but I just had to show this....

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee241/Chunky-Munky/failcabzg7.jpg)

How much was the Maplins rig?
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 05, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
Cost breaks down as thus:

3-way mic stand converter : £4.99

Prosonic YU37 : £24.99

Mic - Line voltage converter : £24.99

YOGA L84AR : £29.99

Using a £7.00 off voucher made it come in at £77.96

The mic stand I had from before and the Denon cost £10 as I said.

It was recorded direct into the Denon and then sent out to Audacity via phono using the line in input of the computer.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 05, 2008, 12:32:49 PM
Can anyone hear a weird sound on the last 3 clips?

I just had a listen to the mp3s on my computer and something is definitely up with them on my end.

I'll have a go at reposting them in .wav.

EDIT .wav isn't working right, sorry.

EDIT 2 There isn't a problem. My headphones are dodgy is all.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 05, 2008, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: PoshCollins

I know this is off topic but I just had to show this....

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee241/Chunky-Munky/failcabzg7.jpg)
 :!: Hey :!:

Was that some dig at my mic placement? :lol:

I'll have you know that I had to stand behind that microphone and I had less than a square foot of space around me (hence you can hear the guitar more than the amp when I start going for it with the pick) :evil: !

This was my first attempt at recording at home.

I think a good move would be to get a passive mixer so I can attenuate the mics before the stereo preamp boosts it so high :lol: .
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: opprobrium_9 on May 05, 2008, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: PoshCollins
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee241/Chunky-Munky/failcabzg7.jpg)


LMFAO  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Posh that was simply brilliant!  Possibly the best thing i have seen on that forum, i was laughing for a good minute and a half!  Cheers!
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: Will on May 05, 2008, 06:43:20 PM
The clips had a good core to it, I guess its just not the usual type of mic'ing that we are used to hearing.

That picture didn't humour me too much :( my friend convinced that the speaker in his AVT150 head was broken already removed all funniness from that :P
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on May 12, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
http://www.dv247.com/invt/froogle/13247/

you would have been better off with only an sm57, check above.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 12, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
This was mainly as a quick fix rather than a proper set up.

I've gotten a twin channel (2 in stereo) mixer for a tenner yesterday so that should help with my mic placement problems. I think I need to sort out the fuse though as I set my power supply to the 9V AC it needs and it is actually outputting nearer 11 (that's one louder! :oops: .) so it blew the fuse.

I'm thinking of getting a Blackstar HT pedal and using the direct output along with the mic setup to get a really massive boosted sound (even if I have to resolder the direct jack to do it). Is this a good idea?
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: Transcend on May 12, 2008, 04:24:33 PM
if you takea  pic i will be glad to host it for you.

I have plenty of online storage thats going to waste.
Title: Warpig clips at last!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on May 12, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
I'd have to set it up again for another recording so I might do it over thursday/friday as I'm on study leave after tomorrow and the house would be reasonably free and I might just have the blackstar if I like it when I try it.

Cheers.

I do suppose I should get my own image hosting account at some point though...