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Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 10, 2008, 04:18:48 PM
last night about 8pm some chavs started on some friends that were coming to visit so we closed the curtains etc and then they broke the window and we reported it to the police and still they havent been out....

I called them again and they said they would be out between 2 & 4 and surprise surprise its 4.18 and still no sign of them

numerous police cars and vans have been in the area but none have come to sort it out.

so im sat here wiht a broken window waiting.....
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Stevepage on May 10, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
You'll find the Police pretty useless no matter where you are. they have set targets they have to meet (lower crime rate) so they get pretty lazy and try to brush it off as a minor offence.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 10, 2008, 04:32:43 PM
Quote from: Stevepage
You'll find the Police pretty useless no matter where you are. they have set targets they have to meet (lower crime rate) so they get pretty lazy and try to brush it off as a minor offence.


well they just came and just took some info. Didn't get anyone to come board the window up or anything
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: ailean on May 10, 2008, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: Transcend
Didn't get anyone to come board the window up or anything


I've never heard of the police doing that, it's always down to the owner or insurance company.

I guess the problem is that with this type of incident it will always be over by the time they get there, so it's going to get treated as a lower priority to an ongoing incident. If you can identify them then they'll catch them anyway, if you can't then there isn't much hope whenever they arrive (unless they can catch them leaving the scene), but that don't make you feel any better when you are sat there waiting on them.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: 38thBeatle on May 10, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
The police often arrange boarding up on commercial premises. I would have thought that they  could have put you in touch with an emergency boarding up service.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Patterns in Blood on May 10, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
+1 on them being pretty useless. My friend got picked up for walking home at 9 at night and checked for alcohol intake (he had had none whatsoever.)
He was kept in a cell for 2 hours before his dad came to pick him up.
In the time it took them to do this they could have caught the people who broke your window....
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: JDC on May 10, 2008, 07:52:39 PM
all about the targets as someone said earlier

I say stop doing all the statics cr@p and copy what other countries with lower crime rates do, we need to scr@p all the paper work for a start
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Scotty477 on May 10, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
I work in the law enforcement business and I have to say that the targets that are set are those demanded by the public. That's the case where I work anyway - Glasgow.

Public disorder (youths/chavs/neds running amok etc) is at the top of our priorities and is being addressed very well indeed up here.

I don't know what priorities West Yorkshire Police have, or who sets them but my advice is simple.

If you're not happy with the service you received, write a letter of complaint to the Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police. Phone calls don't cut it. Put it in writing and it should be acted upon. If your neighbours aren't happy either get them to complain as well until the message gets through.

The police are directed by the public and are answerable to them, or at least it is where I live now. It didn't used to be that way but it is now and it works far, far better IMHO.

Good luck.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 10, 2008, 10:49:01 PM
well they said the council will be out on monday to replace the entire window.

and the guy in the flat above has cctv and has given it to the police so that should help.

when they came today they said they were very sorry for the delay but they had over 40 incidents involving the same group in the local area including violence burglary and a stabbing ...... trust me to live where the whole shannon matthews thing is.

However they gave us the number for our local councillor and he says he can get us moved to a better area early next week as we have been the victim of a lot of trouble over the past 4 months or so.

However we are looking at a private rented place near my dads tomorrow anyway so hopefully everything shall be good.

Thanks to everyone for your advice.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Jonny on May 11, 2008, 12:34:42 AM
Both statistics and the whole deal with every crime works. It's just that they just keep to statistics because (ironically) it's less paperwork.

Funny how the easiest of things come down to human error.
$%&#ers get back to work and help people who need it - like Tony!
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: lepersmeesa on May 11, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
Have none of you seen The Wire. There are some good po-lice work going on, but the mayor always arses it up.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Woogie on May 11, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
I hate scum like that. They always hang out in groups too which makes it worse. Me and a friend got stuck in a 30 vs 2 fight about a month or two ago, so unfair.

Good luck gettting your window sorted, I hope you catch them and deck them.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Spitfire on May 11, 2008, 01:05:46 PM
yea WY police are shite.. u remember what happened at my old place T.. assault, damage of property, dealing.. and still nothing from the police.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 11, 2008, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: Woogie
I hate scum like that. They always hang out in groups too which makes it worse. Me and a friend got stuck in a 30 vs 2 fight about a month or two ago, so unfair.

Good luck gettting your window sorted, I hope you catch them and deck them.


thats exactly the problem if it was just a few it wouldnt be a problem to sort but theres about 25+ of them.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 11, 2008, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: Spitfire
yea WY police are shitee.. u remember what happened at my old place T.. assault, damage of property, dealing.. and still nothing from the police.


yep well they called up today asking if i was satisfied with the service i received so i complained a hell of alot. doubt itll make much difference though,.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: noodleplugerine on May 11, 2008, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: Transcend
Quote from: Spitfire
yea WY police are shitee.. u remember what happened at my old place T.. assault, damage of property, dealing.. and still nothing from the police.


yep well they called up today asking if i was satisfied with the service i received so i complained a hell of alot. doubt itll make much difference though,.


I think they've bugged your internet :P
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Woogie on May 11, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Transcend
Quote from: Woogie
I hate scum like that. They always hang out in groups too which makes it worse. Me and a friend got stuck in a 30 vs 2 fight about a month or two ago, so unfair.

Good luck gettting your window sorted, I hope you catch them and deck them.


thats exactly the problem if it was just a few it wouldnt be a problem to sort but theres about 25+ of them.


I know exactly how you feel. There is some descendents of Hell's Angels around here though (DF) and they beat the shitee into chavs they see causing trouble. Best not to retaliate in a situation like yours though otherwise they'll probably brick your other windows. They just start fights for no reason, probably so they feel brave and like they have achieved something.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 11, 2008, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: Woogie
Quote from: Transcend
Quote from: Woogie
I hate scum like that. They always hang out in groups too which makes it worse. Me and a friend got stuck in a 30 vs 2 fight about a month or two ago, so unfair.

Good luck gettting your window sorted, I hope you catch them and deck them.


thats exactly the problem if it was just a few it wouldnt be a problem to sort but theres about 25+ of them.


I know exactly how you feel. There is some descendents of Hell's Angels around here though (DF) and they beat the shitee into chavs they see causing trouble. Best not to retaliate in a situation like yours though otherwise they'll probably brick your other windows. They just start fights for no reason, probably so they feel brave and like they have achieved something.


Exactly weve found a nicer flat that we can move into on thursday and my friends that were visitng have helped us a little with the deposit so were gonna move there on thursday. Nice quiet area full of old people.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Woogie on May 11, 2008, 08:58:23 PM
Yeah I live in an area with nice elderly residents. There are some rough areas down town though. Best to stay in groups. Glad you're pretty much sorted though.
Title: west yorkshire police are absolutely useless
Post by: Transcend on May 11, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: Woogie
Yeah I live in an area with nice elderly residents. There are some rough areas down town though. Best to stay in groups. Glad you're pretty much sorted though.


cheers man and yeah i have to pay to have it boarded up.

But if i wait while tomorrow the council will replace the window for free :S