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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: samoth2 on May 12, 2008, 08:10:58 PM

Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: samoth2 on May 12, 2008, 08:10:58 PM
I was actually saving up for a Miniplex MKII, but then I see this

(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7193/img7197lf5.jpg)

It's a 1973 SG, and it just looks amazing. However it has a big break in the neck, which is said to be professional fixed. I'm just afraid it might be a problem, but I haven't had problems with my Hamer.

(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1589/img7202zn4.jpg)
So does anybody know anything 'bout SG from that period? How are they?
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: noodleplugerine on May 12, 2008, 08:13:59 PM
Brakes are quite common in SGs I allways thought.

if its done professionally, I reckon it should be k.
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: samoth2 on May 12, 2008, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Brakes are quite common in SGs I allways thought.

if its done professionally, I reckon it should be k.


With my Hamer I could even start collecting guitars with neck breaks :D
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: Antag on May 12, 2008, 08:22:18 PM
Yeah, they are beautiful guitars - at least, mine was until it fell down some stairs (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7227&&start=11) :(  If I could have any SG, it would be another one of these (don't believe some of the tosh you read that all 70s Gibsons are no good)

Come to think of it, ask the buyer where he got it - it looks like exactly the one I had... :)
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: samoth2 on May 12, 2008, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: Antag
Yeah, they are beautiful guitars - at least, mine was until it fell down some stairs (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7227&&start=11) :(  If I could have any SG, it would be another one of these (don't believe some of the tosh you read that all 70s Gibsons are no good)

Come to think of it, ask the buyer where he got it - it looks like exactly the one I had... :)


Sound good, I really wanted a SG for a long time, and i really like the looks of this one. And if it plays good to it would be great.
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: MDV on May 12, 2008, 08:35:01 PM
If it was well fixed, then now its probably the strongest part of the neck. If a bit of a vibration stopper (glue doesnt transmit vibration well) but you probably wouldnt be able to tell the difference if its well done.

If not....well, you get the idea.

That said, now I'm no luthier, but, if it was well fixed you should barely be able to see it??
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: hunter on May 12, 2008, 09:30:39 PM
break behind the nut and professionally fixed = no big deal

However a Fargen MiniPlex would be VERY templting too  :lol:
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: samoth2 on May 12, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: hunter
break behind the nut and professionally fixed = no big deal

However a Fargen MiniPlex would be VERY templting too  :lol:


Yeah it would, but I have no need for a real amp at the moment  :lol:
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: Tellboy on May 14, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: hunter
break behind the nut and professionally fixed = no big deal


Yes - much better than having a break at the neck/body joint. Also you are lucky as this is a "type 4" SG. They were still making the type 3 SGs in 1973 which I think were the ugliest SGs ever made. They had a raised triangular Les Paul type scratchplate and the controls were pre-mounted on a seperate plastic plate.....

(http://freespace.virgin.net/terry.tildesley/pics/ccaa_3.jpg)         ....Ugh ... a real minger.... PDT_009
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: Twinfan on May 14, 2008, 04:14:26 PM
I think that "minger" looks great!  I'd gig it!
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: Tellboy on May 14, 2008, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
I think that "minger" looks great!  I'd gig it!


Each to his own Dave  :) ... Actually they could possibly become valuable as they were only produced between 1971 to 1973 and were very unpopular (SG sales dropped to an 'all time low' whilst these were being made) Also quality control at this time was "frankly, appalling"...god must have been bad.
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: samoth2 on May 14, 2008, 04:59:14 PM
I decided not to buy it, since i didn't have the chance to try it, and i heard that the Norlin Era gibsons were not the best.

This also means that i will get a miniplex sooner :D
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: opprobrium_9 on May 14, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
i think the minger would look ace if it weren't for that black control mount UGGGG  :?
Title: Bad SG GAS Att: Henk
Post by: Philly Q on May 14, 2008, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: Tellboy
They were still making the type 3 SGs in 1973 which I think were the ugliest SGs ever made.

I'm with you on that one.  There are so many bad design features - the pointless pickup mounting rings, the needlessly raised scratchplate  (why not flat on the body?), the ugly plastic control panel.  And the insides of the cutaways aren't contoured, which looks dreadful, like they just gave up before the guitar was finished.

Plus it has the "90 degree" neck pitch so the end of the neck is raised and the strings are parallel with the body, which I don't mind playability-wise, but it looks ugly.

I saw a couple of those around Denmark Street a few years ago and they weren't too expensive, but they've probably gone up since.  I don't follow the vintage market.