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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on May 16, 2008, 08:01:32 PM

Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 16, 2008, 08:01:32 PM
its a Gibson Flying V90 from 1988. very bright and hard to photograph 'nuclear yellow' finish, 25.5" scale length. single bill lawrence designed humbucker, volume control, (unnecessary) steinberger leg rest, fixed bridge. i quite liked the sound, might leave it stock.

how could this be more 80s? the answer is NONE - none more 80s.

now I just have to work out how to get it home.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Antag on May 16, 2008, 08:03:39 PM
Nice! :)  Love the Trini Lopez inlays on that.  Actually, I think it could be more 80s by the addition of a Kahler (IIRC there were som 80s Gibsons that had them....) - but not by much :)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 16, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: Antag
Nice! :)  Love the Trini Lopez inlays on that.  Actually, I think it could be more 80s by the addition of a Kahler (IIRC there were som 80s Gibsons that had them....) - but not by much :)


lol ;) some versions of this guitar had a steinberger trem. however, i am extremely happy with the fixed bridge.

tried it through a marshall vintage modern - great amp. also forgot to mention the rear of the body is contoured, and the jack is in the upper wing.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 16, 2008, 08:08:56 PM
Ahhhh
I have wanted one of those since 1989 when i first saw one at Frankfurt Musikmesse
It is the same as the one that Bruce Kulick used in KISS' Unholy video
See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MiJfZcQCTY
I love the trini lopez inlay - superb!
And it has the jack socket on the upper fin - same as I now do mine

Well done to you!
You mentioned shipping - Where is it now?
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 16, 2008, 08:11:29 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Well done to you!
You mentioned shipping - Where is it now?


Thanks Feline, I knew you'd appriciate it :) I'm strumming it right now in my New York hotel room. The guitar itself is quite light - but the case weighs a ton.

regarding that video - thats exactly what this V sounded like through the Vintage Modern (except the solo in the vid sounds like it has some whammy bar action)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: il˙ti on May 16, 2008, 08:18:47 PM
I dig it. On the picture it looks more rain-coat yellow than 80s nuclear yellow. I'd love to see it in some natural light.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: dave_mc on May 16, 2008, 08:56:19 PM
that's awesome!
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 16, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: gwEm
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Well done to you!
You mentioned shipping - Where is it now?


Thanks Feline, I knew you'd appriciate it :) I'm strumming it right now in my New York hotel room. The guitar itself is quite light - but the case weighs a ton.

regarding that video - thats exactly what this V sounded like through the Vintage Modern (except the solo in the vid sounds like it has some whammy bar action)


You'll have to bring her roun to mine - for - you know - evaluation purposes :D
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Jonny on May 16, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
Nice inlays. Wish I could see it in person, a photograph doesn't do justice for any 80s type guitar, imo.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: WezV on May 16, 2008, 10:12:21 PM
i like a lot... and for some reason 88 is one of those years that sticks out in my head quite often which has to be good
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: il˙ti on May 16, 2008, 10:26:21 PM
Quote from: WezV
i like a lot... and for some reason 88 is one of those years that sticks out in my head quite often which has to be good

My birthyear. With a little luck, my next guitar will be an 88'er.  8)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: opprobrium_9 on May 16, 2008, 10:29:57 PM
aw i thought this was a thread about 8 string Vees  :(
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gingataff on May 17, 2008, 12:20:57 AM
Now that's a V!!
I saw an LP Junior recently that was similar in style to that, bright yellow and a Steinberger trem. Very cool.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gibsongaz#1 on May 17, 2008, 12:36:42 AM
Wow! Thats very....yellow! LOL!
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: WezV on May 17, 2008, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: ilyti
Quote from: WezV
i like a lot... and for some reason 88 is one of those years that sticks out in my head quite often which has to be good

My birthyear. With a little luck, my next guitar will be an 88'er.  8)


see, i was born in 80...but lots of my early memories are 88 - its almost llike it all started making sense in 88...  i know it was the year of the seul olympics, a trip for my family to florida (and obviously disney world)... and the first time i had some really good lego,   A lego technics set with a snowmobile and helicopter.... the year just seems to keep popping up for some reason and if i believed in some kind of astrological numeracy i might think it was significant :?
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Roobubba on May 17, 2008, 01:10:39 AM
Quote from: opprobrium_9
aw i thought this was a thread about 8 string Vees  :(


I'm with oppo, I'm sorely disappointed by the lack of those all-important two extra strings.
:D

Roo
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: blue on May 17, 2008, 01:54:11 AM
Quote from: gingataff
Now that's a V!!
I saw an LP Junior recently that was similar in style to that, bright yellow and a Steinberger trem. Very cool.


i've got one of those!! big chunky neck, thin contoured body and a weird mini humbucker pickup.  and yes, it's an '88, gibson seemed to have a thing about nuclear yellow that year!
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: il˙ti on May 17, 2008, 03:47:14 AM
You know, it only jsut occured to me how hard it would be for me not to paint black stipes on that guitar if I got it. By all means, keep yellow Vs away from me. This is why:

(http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/stryper_oz.jpg)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 17, 2008, 09:38:31 AM
Quote from: ilyti
Quote from: WezV
i like a lot... and for some reason 88 is one of those years that sticks out in my head quite often which has to be good

My birthyear. With a little luck, my next guitar will be an 88'er.  8)


I used to have one of these Charvel 88Ltd - was nice
(http://www.jcfonline.com/gallery/char-strats-pics/char-strat-00480-dennis.jpg)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Philly Q on May 17, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
I love those Vs, they're one of the nicer "modern" V designs.

The Trini Lopez inlays look particularly great.  I really like the SG 90 which was around at the same time:

http://www.everythingsg.com/identify/sg_90_double.htm
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 17, 2008, 04:44:19 PM
i'm planning to pop round to phil's later and i can hardly wait to try it out through his rig. i wonder how the bill lawrence will compare out of isolation.

heres a better picture of the nuclear yellow:
http://www.flying-v.ch/v90/v90.htm#v90yel

i'm just a bit worried about all the potential problems of bringing her back, but i'll just have to see how it goes tomorrow.

feline: i've seen you 'evaluating' my guitars before ;) its been a while since i visited, i'll take half a day and pop over soon
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 17, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: gwEm
i'm planning to pop round to phil's later and i can hardly wait to try it out through his rig. i wonder how the bill lawrence will compare out of isolation.

heres a better picture of the nuclear yellow:
http://www.flying-v.ch/v90/v90.htm#v90yel

i'm just a bit worried about all the potential problems of bringing her back, but i'll just have to see how it goes tomorrow.

feline: i've seen you 'evaluating' my guitars before ;) its been a while since i visited, i'll take half a day and pop over soon


Ah - my favourite flying V site

"Evaluating" - with a loud amp and a silly grin :twisted:
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 18, 2008, 03:57:31 AM
the EQing of the bill lawrence was absolutely spot-on but it completely lacks any life and dynamics compared to BKPs. i'm considering my options pickup wise.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: hunter on May 18, 2008, 04:23:17 AM
(http://www.flying-v.ch/v90/f_88v90y.jpg)

AWESOMENESS!
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: PhilKing on May 18, 2008, 01:03:20 PM
gwEm's V is really nice, I like the feel of it and the neck is a great shape.  Wasn't as keen on the Bill Lawrence, though for an 80's tone it works.  It was just that comparing it to BK's, there wasn't any life in the sound.  We tried it though a couple of amp and cabinet combinations, and everytime the BK's sounded better (is anyone surprised  :) ).
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: PhilKing on May 19, 2008, 08:48:15 PM
Hi gwEm, how did you go on with getting the guitar back into England?
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 20, 2008, 10:02:09 AM
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Hi gwEm, how did you go on with getting the guitar back into England?


It worked out ok thanks Phil 8) I threw out alot of my luggage and was only 2kg over the limit - they waved me through without fees. No damage to the guitar, but I haven't tried it on my rig yet.

Was thinking on the way home that we tried your Rebel Yell PRS with the JJ tubes, and also the PRS has a tone control which the V90 doesn't. So I reckon with these factors I'll go for a Rebel Yell in it, and if that doesn't work an A5 Mule.

The Steinberger pickguards are very nice quality, but a bit the wrong size, I'm tweaking the single humbucker one with needle files at the moment.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Vision pedalboards on May 20, 2008, 11:51:24 AM
That looks Very cool!

Im more into Andy Powell style V's with vibrola etc but i do like that

Mark
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 27, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
a little postscript for those interested:

i took out the pickup to make some measurements on it... in the cavity its signed by two or three (hard to make out) people - the workers who made it? quality control? who knows, but it was nice to see the human touch.

i took off the scratch plate also, and the neck carries on a surprisingly long way into the body - it extends below where a neck pickup would be. as expected, its made of (softish) mahogany.

plan for mods is a new scratchplate (cut out below the TOM to get the action a bit lower, and a hole for a toggle switch), rebel yell and straplocks.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Philly Q on May 27, 2008, 02:03:19 PM
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and a hole for a toggle switch

For coil splitting, or are you adding a neck pickup?
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on May 27, 2008, 02:13:30 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: gwEm
and a hole for a toggle switch

For coil splitting, or are you adding a neck pickup?


won't be adding that neck pickup ;)

i worked out this little trick... not even a trick really:

on single pickup guitars the only thing I miss is the ability to set two voices which you can select between quickly with a switch - clean with the volume rolled down, and dirty with the volume maxed out. so i add a switch which toggles between the output of the pickup, and the center output of the pot.
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Philly Q on May 27, 2008, 03:09:31 PM
Ah, so pretty similar to Tom Anderson's "blower" switch?  Neat idea.  :)
Title: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gingataff on May 27, 2008, 05:56:22 PM
Sounds like the switch on my single pickup fernandes, it bypasses the tone and volume circuit. So I can use it to switch between full volume to a preset lower volume, or sometimes I use it with the tone rolled down for a pseudo neck pickup tone that simulates having two pickups.
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 11, 2008, 07:38:15 PM


You'll have to bring her roun to mine - for - you know - evaluation purposes :D

OMG - played this guitar yesterday and she is awesome
The colour is a shock to the system, but the guitar simply rocks!
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: Will on October 11, 2008, 07:51:06 PM
The neck is a little to small for me, but YES! that guitar is very nice in every other aspect
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: PhilKing on October 11, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
I was really impressed by the V when I played it.  The neck has an awesome feel to it and the 25.5" scale makes it totall different to a regular V.  I like the yellow!
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 11, 2008, 08:02:26 PM
Quality is the best I have seen from a Gibson in a long time (ok - it's an older one - 1988)
Loved the neck shape and yes the 25.5" scale and maple neck / ebony board made it sound v crunchy.
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: broken cord on October 12, 2008, 04:05:49 PM
Keeping with the V8, here is my 1978 Dean V.

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/JSalch/deanv.jpg)
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c128/JSalch/IMG_3071.jpg)
Title: Re: all the 8s - my 8th V from 1988
Post by: gwEm on October 12, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
nice Dean brokencord!

yeah, i still like the v90 alot. the 25.5" scale and maple/ebony neck totally tightens up the sound. shes now fitted with a Holy Diver - 100% the right choice for this guitar. She absolutely nails High&Dry period Def Leppard.

thanks jonothan, will and phil for your compliments :)

maybe she doesn't have the typical V vibe, but i think its a really good interpretation.