Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: hunter on May 17, 2008, 10:18:01 AM
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It's true, all my famous LP clips aren't worth anything. I seriously love my SG, it plays, vibrates, rocks, rules, cuts, purrrs, roars, flies, oozes ... I have been converted to an SG lover.
Now I want another SG, a Mira and a V!
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Haha, welcome to the club! :lol:
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Indeed!
Welcome ;)
They're a dream to play in all honesty.
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Officially updated my Avatar :O)
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
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You guys know what I am thinking?
(http://www.guitarsite.com/newsletters/gnw/images/other/pagedn.jpg)
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck
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I really want one of those Wez, but really cant afford it right now :( Maybe next year as this time I manged to spend most of my student loan on computer parts :oops: :lol:
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck
I do really like the idea of a neck-through SG for extra strength, but I don't like the look of the visible neck laminations with the body wings either side. It would be fine with a solid colour though.
It's funny, you don't hear horror stories about Flying V neck joints but they don't have much more wood in that area than SGs do. I'd like to see an SG with a sculpted '58 V style joint:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/63258481_o.jpg)
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(http://www.felineguitars.com/spec_sheets/guitar_images/paul%20masters%20Korina%20V/58-Korina-V-front-726.jpg)
That looks like a chunky join! is it not possible to have an SG like that then? or is that what ESP have done with their more costly vipers?
Hunter, I am a LP lover, but SGs to me are uncomfortable to play sitting down, the top horn is too high, and it sits far too far forward, is that easy to get over?? (somehow I am fine with a V though :? )
Sorry for stealing a Feline pic!
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That looks like a chunky join! is it not possible to have an SG like that then?
I don't see why not, except that the SG body is a bit thinner than a V, so the body wood under the neck tenon would be very thin. The later '67 style V has a very thin body, but the neck joint's much longer, the neck joins the body around the 18th fret compared with the 21st on a '58.
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For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:
Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.
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For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:
Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.
yeah and it weighs 10lb :O(
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For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:
Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.
yeah and it weighs 10lb :O(
And the body's well over 2" thick, whereas a Gibson's not much more than 1-1/4".
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck
I do really like the idea of a neck-through SG for extra strength, but I don't like the look of the visible neck laminations with the body wings either side. It would be fine with a solid colour though.
It's funny, you don't hear horror stories about Flying V neck joints but they don't have much more wood in that area than SGs do. I'd like to see an SG with a sculpted '58 V style joint:
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/63258481_o.jpg)
That is exactly the way we are doing the neck joint on the 58 style V that Will has pictured above
Notice also the very tight fitting long tenon (albeit interrupted for some of iit's depth by the neck pickup)
We do our Sg style joints the same - the Gothic Warpig has a sculted join and the body is a bit thicker , which aids strength and balance
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I keep thinking if I sat down with an SG I would spend more time keeping it from falling forward (neck first) than play anything. Plus Gibson are tards-in their own right I guess- in having rounded cricket bat necks. And even for most of their LPs too.
The only SG that I would like would be the Special.
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I do really like the idea of a neck-through SG for extra strength, but I don't like the look of the visible neck laminations with the body wings either side. It would be fine with a solid colour though.
thats why mine is going to be black, and mostly nickel hardware too ... those casino style p-ups in my avatar infact!!!
and just to clarify - i dont think SG's are bad as musical instruments go... i just dont want my neck joins to be like that. Same with the flying V's and to a lesser extent the les pauls - there just seems to be better ways of doing it.
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Plus Gibson are tards-in their own right I guess- in having rounded cricket bat necks.
Some of us like those cricket bat (or is it baseball bat?) necks....
We do our Sg style joints the same - the Gothic Warpig has a sculted join and the body is a bit thicker , which aids strength and balance
Sounds good. I've often contemplated getting a slightly thicker-bodied SG; it would allow for use of push-pull pots, too. Wouldn't really want any extra weight though - maybe korina would be a bit lighter than mahogany?
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Plus Gibson are tards-in their own right I guess- in having rounded cricket bat necks.
Some of us like those cricket bat (or is it baseball bat?) necks....
I sort of spoke for myself there. I guess there are people who do. Sorrys Philly.
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No offence taken Jonny, I just wanted to make the point :wink: .
One of the main reasons I like Gibsons - despite their mixed reputation - is that their fatter neck shapes are some of the most comfortable out there, for me personally. I've had several Hamers which are better guitars, really, but they can't get the neck shapes right (IMO).
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SG's rock! :D
Had a couple break the headstock off, but only when in the post. Easy solution....detune the guitar when shipping.
You'd have to really tw*t the thing hard to cause a break at the body end, and I try not to treat my guitars like that.
I've never had a Gibson SG that was neck heavy, only an Epi version.
I love them cos they are more alive and resonant than an LP, and have a wirier, more violin-like tone.
EDIT: Avatar updated to reflect SG love. Sorry Ted!
(Still want a Byrdland though.)
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SG's rock! :D
I love them cos they are more alive and resonant than an LP, and have a wirier, more violin-like tone.
+100
How do Vs and Xplorers compare?
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(http://www.felineguitars.com/spec_sheets/guitar_images/paul%20masters%20Korina%20V/58-Korina-V-front-726.jpg)
That looks like a chunky join! is it not possible to have an SG like that then? or is that what ESP have done with their more costly vipers?
Hunter, I am a LP lover, but SGs to me are uncomfortable to play sitting down, the top horn is too high, and it sits far too far forward, is that easy to get over?? (somehow I am fine with a V though :? )
Sorry for stealing a Feline pic!
The necks of the vipers continue into the body sometimes all the way up to the bridge, giving a superb secure join.
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No offence taken Jonny, I just wanted to make the point :wink: .
One of the main reasons I like Gibsons - despite their mixed reputation - is that their fatter neck shapes are some of the most comfortable out there, for me personally. I've had several Hamers which are better guitars, really, but they can't get the neck shapes right (IMO).
Yeah the neck on my Pearl feels really nice, when I go back to my Epiphone after playing that, it feels weird like theres no substance or feel to it. Very flat and odd.
Hunter, thanks for giving me SG gas again :x :P This is still on my local music shops website, been there for ages but I dont know if its still in the shop. £600 seems a bit steep for a Tokai though
(http://www.patrickreedmusic.co.uk/images/tokaisg1.jpg)
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This is still on my local music shops website, been there for ages but I dont know if its still in the shop. £600 seems a bit steep for a Tokai though
Depends which model it is. If it's an SG-75 or lower number, it's overpriced, but if it's an SG-155 (it probably isn't :P ) it has a one-piece Honduras body, nitro finish, CTS pots, top-quality hardware... £600 would be a steal.
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Watch one of SGs great moments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXt_-4heeY
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I've been wanting an SG since forever. I just never found one I liked the feel of. :? Oh well, someday.
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Well I start to have HEAVY GAS on SG's... but I would not buy a Gibby, would build one stronger, instead...
Time to record a battle between SG and LP, Hunter 8)
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Time to record a battle between SG and LP, Hunter 8)
And it will be EPIC!!!!
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I love the looks of SGs but i play so poorly on them due to the thicker necks and also the fact that the neck seems to be so long, i always end up a fret or two away from where i want to be lol.
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Ah! so you have finally turned to the Dark side. Welcome!!!
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I've just bought another one! 8)
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I've just bought another one! 8)
That's wrong in so many ways!!!
Its a StratG?!
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So guitars have to conform to certain predefined profiles? :lol:
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I've just bought another one! 8)
Can't decide if I like the look of those or not! I certainly like the sunburst :) . Not sure about the rotary switch, it's a pity the SG body isn't deep enough for a 5-way blade switch.
What are the pickups like?
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I love the rotary switch, reminds me of the Varitone thing.
I wasn't sure I liked the guitar at first, but then it just clicked.
No idea what the pickups are like, the guitar's still in Florida!
I'm not too bothered, as I almost always change pickups. I this case I imagine a bit of careful routing, possibly a new scratchplate and I can put a humbucker in the bridge. Even with all that work it will have cost less than a "normal" SG Standard.
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Martin - nice score!
Re. thick SG necks, the '61 reissue has a great slim-taper neck. My personal favourite on an SG and not in the least bit fat and rounded.
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I love the looks of SGs but i play so poorly on them due to the thicker necks and also the fact that the neck seems to be so long, i always end up a fret or two away from where i want to be lol.
On my standard, I'd say the neck is like a 60s slim taper les paul neck. Definitely nowhere near the 50s baseball bat of my Doublecut LP Special.
As far as I can tell the neck is awesome.
The only thing I hate (on most Gibson necks anyways) is the pastic ends of the frets instead of the frets going over the binding. Why do guitar builders do this kind of misconstruction?
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I love the looks of SGs but i play so poorly on them due to the thicker necks and also the fact that the neck seems to be so long, i always end up a fret or two away from where i want to be lol.
SGs have rather thin necks I've allways thought...
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So some people don't like them because the necks are too thin, and others because they're like baseball bats! :lol: :?
Quite funny, bearing in mind SG necks are the same profiles as LP's, and there are both 50's and 60's versions available.
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So some people don't like them because the necks are too thin, and others because they're like baseball bats! :lol: :?
Quite funny, bearing in mind SG necks are the same profiles as LP's, and there are both 50's and 60's versions available.
i dont like normal les paul; necks either
i loved my agile as it was more like an ibanez neck
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I find the neck to be quite comfortable on my SG; of course I have BK'S in mine, (MQ & WP). I guess if one tosses about with little abandon as one plays one could snap the neck off any guitar. Where it is true SG's do have a bad rap for being easily snapped it still lends itself to be a fine rock machine.
For the record: I too prefer the SG over an LP.
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Martin - nice score!
Re. thick SG necks, the '61 reissue has a great slim-taper neck. My personal favourite on an SG and not in the least bit fat and rounded.
+1 - Definitely - although I find myself prefering fatter necks these days.
It appears that there is quite a variety of neck profiles if you look around.
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Twinfan, which neck profile is the neck on my Pearl most like? I remember you saying it was quite slim but it feels huge to me :lol:
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It's probably closer to a Standard than a 61, The width is about the same, but the Standard has a deeper profile like your Pearl LP :)
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck
this is what i was planning to do for my next build Wez!!! YOU STOLE MY IDEA YOU bar-steward!! :wink:
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nah, i think i stole a few of the ideas for this build from John Birch!!
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My favourite SG neck is on my Epiphone Prophecy. Then the ones on my SG Goddess and SG Supreme. Then again, the neck on my special's not too bad...
And yes, SGs are just lovely...
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My favourite SG neck is on my Epiphone Prophecy. Then the ones on my SG Goddess and SG Supreme. Then again, the neck on my special's not too bad...
And yes, SGs are just lovely...
How is the Prophecy anyways? Good? Bad? 10/10? Lemon? Amazing?
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My favourite SG neck is on my Epiphone Prophecy. Then the ones on my SG Goddess and SG Supreme. Then again, the neck on my special's not too bad...
And yes, SGs are just lovely...
How is the Prophecy anyways? Good? Bad? 10/10? Lemon? Amazing?
Well... nice slim, smooth neck (the matt finish helps a lot), graphite nut so it stays in tune well. I'm getting a tad fed up with the volume knob - it's in a very strat-ish position (for similar reasons) but I keep catching it and turning it down. The dirty fingers pickups are good enough to live with. I prefer the painkillers in my Les Paul, but...
The finish is good - you may prefer flame maple rather than quilted...
Oh yes, and with 24 frets and the wonderful SG upper fret access...
Overall, I'd give it a good 8 out of 10, if we ignore the price. Taking account of the price, I'd give it 10...
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One of my mates here, an ex-pat Brit, got an SG in the States when he was student and brought it over to Colombia on his first trip. He got married and was moving back to the UK, and gave it to his brother-in-law -- but his brother in law is pretty much an acoustic player, and just kept it under his bed! Now my mate is back here in Colombia again after a few years in the UK, and is trying to figure out how to get it back without looking like he's nicking his own gift ;) And I'm wondering if I can buy it off the brother-in-law for a cut price! :lol: Oughta be in near mint condition, however decent an SG it is otherwise.
I dig the SG shape and lightness -- I even kinda like the strap button on the neck/body join. However, already having an LP, I've been attracted by the idea of an SG body with a 24-fret neck (blasphemy, maybe, but still ...). Actually, I'm almost into the idea of an "SGcaster", with 24 frets and an HSS configuration -- but I'm not actually sure I'd know what to do with that many pickups (being a long-time LP "HH" player)! :lol: Maybe, then an MQ in the neck and something else in the bridge .... That Warpig I've always dreamed of maybe? :twisted: Or perhaps something slightly more refined to bring out leads with those extra frets ... a Painkiller or HD or something.
Ah, gear dreams! 8)
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I've been attracted by the idea of an SG body with a 24-fret neck (blasphemy, maybe, but still ...).
I usually prefer 22 frets over 24, because the neck pickup sounds that bit warmer, but I've never understood why SGs don't have 24 frets as standard. I'm sure you could squeeze the extra 2 frets into that big gap between the end of the board and the neck pickup (I haven't actually measured it, so maybe you'd need to move the pickup a little, but only a millimetre or two).
My SG-Xs have 24 frets (but no neck pickups) and it works well - that SG neck joint makes the top frets easily accessible.
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well, if you make it 25.5" scale length with 24 frets teh proportions stay pretty nice.... and hopefully i should be able to back that up with hard evidence really soon!!
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I've been attracted by the idea of an SG body with a 24-fret neck (blasphemy, maybe, but still ...).
I usually prefer 22 frets over 24, because the neck pickup sounds that bit warmer
Yeah, I know what you mean, though I've got my LP to provide fat humbucker warmth with 22 frets. :)
My SG-Xs have 24 frets (but no neck pickups) and it works well - that SG neck joint makes the top frets easily accessible.
Ah! Just what I was thinking! :) And somehow I'd never heard of the SG-X until now! :roll: But now that I've googled it -- mmm, looks nice! That with some interesting BKPs would make me a fine alternative to my Crawler-equipped LP.
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Ah! Just what I was thinking! :) And somehow I'd never heard of the SG-X until now!
Well, they only made them for 2-3 years in the late '90s, so it's perfectly understandable not to have heard of 'em! :)
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Oh .... Well, maybe I can find one somewhere, some day. They seem like a good idea, to me!
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Now I want ... a V!
I just read this comment ;) Good to see you're starting to think about a *real* mans guitar 8)
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OMG :!:
The Edwards SGs are only £366 :o
(http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/img/goods/L/esg85lt2.jpg)
Any idea how much postage + customs would be on one of those badboys?
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$130 postage = £430
20% customs atleast = £510
Not too favourable :(
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hmm.. maybe if I sell my 360 and camera I'll be able to afford one :idea: Any takers? :P
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hmm.. maybe if I sell my 360 and camera I'll be able to afford one :idea: Any takers? :P
Don't sell the Camera!
By the way, which Grados are those? SR80? How are they?
How leaky are they?
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I've got kinda bored of photography at the minute, I can never find anything worth taking photos of :(
The headphones are indeed SR80s and they leak quite a bit.
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I've got kinda bored of photography at the minute, I can never find anything worth taking photos of :(
The headphones are indeed SR80s and they leak quite a bit.
They sound good though?
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Yeah, definitely. Really clear and defined, you can hear everything better :)
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Grados are pretty much just like having speakers attached to your head - if leakage is at all an issue, they are not for you.
The SR80s are fantastic! I also have some SR325i's, but the SR80s still get more head time, as they're just so much fun! Especially for 'rock' genres of music.
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Saw a black Tokai SG in Cash Convertors yesterday- looked pristene and they wanted about £170 for it. Have CC made an arse and listed a good guitar for a temptingly small price?
Looked like a standard SG- small black scratchplate and covered humbuckers. I felt a little temptation for something that cheap...
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What is leak in headphones??? :?
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Saw a black Tokai SG in Cash Convertors yesterday- looked pristene and they wanted about £170 for it. Have CC made an arse and listed a good guitar for a temptingly small price?
Depends which model it is. If it's a Japanese one it's a steal, but it's more likely a Korean one, or maybe a Chinese one like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-USG35-Electric-Guitar-Black-SG-Style-Guitar_W0QQitemZ370056615756QQihZ024QQcategoryZ112670QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Grados are pretty much just like having speakers attached to your head - if leakage is at all an issue, they are not for you.
The SR80s are fantastic! I also have some SR325i's, but the SR80s still get more head time, as they're just so much fun! Especially for 'rock' genres of music.
At the moment its a toss up for me between a pair of Grado SR80s or AKG K271s, since the 271s have been discontinued for a new mark II model, I can get them for £80.
The Grados are open back, and are meant to sound amazing, but if they're too leaky I'll get the AKGs, which are closed back.
Anyone have any experience with the AKGs?
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I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.
thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck
this is what i was planning to do for my next build Wez!!! YOU STOLE MY IDEA YOU bar-steward!! :wink:
just to show how this works:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/mirror.jpg)
recessed dunlop strap lock
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/strapback.jpg)
the front view:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/strapfront.jpg)
the guitar still feels a little neck heavy and its noticeable when sitting down
but bearing in mind this has particularly light body wood and a longer neck than a gibson i dont think the balance on a strap could be much better
might as well throw in a shot of the neck join as well :wink:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/jb5.jpg)
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Love the neck joint, not so sure about the straplock button, it looks odd to me. I've no problem with the normal strap button location, but I know it would defeat the object of that neck joint. :wink:
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That looks awesome wez :) My strat gas has kinda subsided now (unsurprisingly :roll: ), I'd love one of those SGs!
I can just imagine it with a satin finish and some distressed pig-90s :o
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Love the neck joint, not so sure about the straplock button, it looks odd to me. I've no problem with the normal strap button location, but I know it would defeat the object of that neck joint. :wink:
i never like the tilt forward that leads to... anyway, it always had to be on the top horn - this just seemed the best way to do it without ruining the outline
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At the moment its a toss up for me between a pair of Grado SR80s or AKG K271s, since the 271s have been discontinued for a new mark II model, I can get them for £80. [...] Anyone have any experience with the AKGs?
Are the 271s sealed (or however they called it when you've bascially got pretty serious hardshell cups over your ears) or just closed back? I've got AKG K240-somthings, which are closed (or at least not open) back, but at the volume I playback while recording :roll: they leak a bit anyway. Not enough that I really care for my purposes, but enough that I notice it.
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What is leak in headphones??? :?
It is when the sound that you hear in the headphones "escapes" so that it is also audible outside the headphones.
(For example, when you are recording vocals, and you are listening to the guitar/bass/drum tracks play back, this sound can "leak" from the headphones and be captured by the vocals microphone.)
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What is leak in headphones??? :?
It is when the sound that you hear in the headphones "escapes" so that it is also audible outside the headphones.
(For example, when you are recording vocals, and you are listening to the guitar/bass/drum tracks play back, this sound can "leak" from the headphones and be captured by the vocals microphone.)
Thank you! :D
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Wez, how much to send it to me instead of PhillKing? (http://216.211.140.132/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_jokercolor.gif)
hehehehehehehehehe
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Wez, how much to send it to me instead of PhillKing? (http://216.211.140.132/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_jokercolor.gif)
hehehehehehehehehe
i dunno, phil knows where i live!!!! :wink:
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Wez, how much to send it to me instead of PhillKing? (http://216.211.140.132/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/icon_jokercolor.gif)
hehehehehehehehehe
i dunno, phil knows where i live!!!! :wink:
And I'm going to be round there soon!!
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Grados are pretty much just like having speakers attached to your head - if leakage is at all an issue, they are not for you.
The SR80s are fantastic! I also have some SR325i's, but the SR80s still get more head time, as they're just so much fun! Especially for 'rock' genres of music.
At the moment its a toss up for me between a pair of Grado SR80s or AKG K271s, since the 271s have been discontinued for a new mark II model, I can get them for £80.
The Grados are open back, and are meant to sound amazing, but if they're too leaky I'll get the AKGs, which are closed back.
Anyone have any experience with the AKGs?
(http://www.dansdata.com/images/k271/k271_280.jpg)
One of these? I've got one and I think it's great, Ive never noticed any leak but Ive never played something so loud that it would. I reckon Id damge my ears before it leaked any sound! It's huge though so not really portable. Closed back construction means it still sounds like a headphone, although it's pretty damn good. More of the feel thing than anything else, sounds like you're in a small room sorta thing. Can't really get away from that with a closed can. For general music listening on my ipod though I prefer my Sennheiser PX100, a bargain at £25ish although it's pretty leaky.
I think in the end it comes down to whether what youre looking for is a closed or open one, and the Grado and the AKG are both very good representitive of each kind.
Wow this thread has gone off topic! :lol:
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Grados are pretty much just like having speakers attached to your head - if leakage is at all an issue, they are not for you.
The SR80s are fantastic! I also have some SR325i's, but the SR80s still get more head time, as they're just so much fun! Especially for 'rock' genres of music.
At the moment its a toss up for me between a pair of Grado SR80s or AKG K271s, since the 271s have been discontinued for a new mark II model, I can get them for £80.
The Grados are open back, and are meant to sound amazing, but if they're too leaky I'll get the AKGs, which are closed back.
Anyone have any experience with the AKGs?
(http://www.dansdata.com/images/k271/k271_280.jpg)
One of these? I've got one and I think it's great, Ive never noticed any leak but Ive never played something so loud that it would. I reckon Id damge my ears before it leaked any sound! It's huge though so not really portable. Closed back construction means it still sounds like a headphone, although it's pretty damn good. More of the feel thing than anything else, sounds like you're in a small room sorta thing. Can't really get away from that with a closed can. For general music listening on my ipod though I prefer my Sennheiser PX100, a bargain at £25ish although it's pretty leaky.
I think in the end it comes down to whether what youre looking for is a closed or open one, and the Grado and the AKG are both very good representitive of each kind.
Wow this thread has gone off topic! :lol:
Brilliant cheers!
I think I will go for the AKGs, simply because I'd imagine closed back being more practical on the move.
Not going to buy them quite yet though, just spent a bit on Download tickets (Yeah, I decided to go :D no Yngwie satch/PG for me :()
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closed back is more practical, but open back sounds better. :wink:
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closed back is more practical, but open back sounds better. :wink:
Indeed.