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Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: donovan.x on May 25, 2008, 06:34:30 PM
I teach guitar along side my 9-5 and it is quite lucrative. My wife thinks that now we can have great holidays and stuff but all I want to do is spend it on guitars and I struggle to think of something I would rather spend it on. I sorted out a new T.V and a decent Hi-Fi but that wasn't just guitar lesson money and now that they are taken care of I have a endless list of guitar related gear I need!  :lol: and everything else just feels like a waste of money. Is this the burden of being a guitarist or am I alone in my gread. :wink:
 :twisted:  8)
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Nadz1lla on May 25, 2008, 06:47:03 PM
Not at all mate, I have a list as long as my arm of Guitar stuff I want to buy. I drive a fairly old N-reg 1 litre Suzuki Swift, and if I had £10,000 to blow on whatever I wanted I'd still spend it all on Axe gear.  :lol:
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 25, 2008, 06:55:24 PM
I think the answer is possibly to have really good quality stuff - no compromises so that what you buy satisfies so well that you don't always need more.

Many of the guys I make guitars for are maybe tired of the endless quest - trading this guitar to buy that etc. SO they have a made to measure  guitar that covers a lot of what they would want in a guitar.

Sure they still also have a strat and a tele and whatever to fill in the gaps but they chose to have stuff that hits the mark.

Some amps are great for this like the Egnater Mod 50 as it can be reconfigured to do whatever by changing modules - like on the Randall MTS series.

I enjoy having rack gear that covers many of my musical bases: ADA. Soldano, Rocktron and Engl

I guess what I am saying is sometimes that spending more on less items can sometimes works better  than an endless spend on budget to mid price stuff.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on May 25, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
You mentioned you wife wants to go on great holidays - I'm not trying to be controversial, but she deserves a bit of consideration, surely?
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: donovan.x on May 25, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
Good answer Jonathan but wrong :lol:. My list grows daily, almost like a hunter looking for trophy kills, I really want a couple of customs from you, a couple from WezV, a Phil Collen Jackson and so on, the list is endless and my greed seems insatiable.

Philly Q, do not fear, she is getting a holiday, we are off to the states in October, my point being is that I could quite happily never go on holiday again if it meant more guitar gear.
Obviously I would like to maintain that this is a fairly light hearted look at G.A.S and it's grasp on myself and others.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Will on May 25, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: donovanx
I really want a couple of customs from you, a couple from WezV,.


Well, you may as well tell us all what you are wanting :P Then explain it to your Mrs and how much it means to you :D
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on May 25, 2008, 07:20:42 PM
I agree, I could quite happily never go on holiday and spend the money on guitars, DVDs, CDs etc.  And indeed, that's exactly what I do. :lol:

But I'm not married (or similar).... and if I was I'm pretty confident I'd never be "allowed" to buy another guitar again!  :wink:
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: warpthrone on May 25, 2008, 07:40:54 PM
Your just lucky you have money to spend in the first place, I'm fourteen and I can't get a job anywhere.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on May 25, 2008, 07:47:50 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Many of the guys I make guitars for are maybe tired of the endless quest - trading this guitar to buy that etc. SO they have a made to measure  guitar that covers a lot of what they would want in a guitar.

I can relate to that feeling, at the moment.  I've bought and sold a lot of guitars in the last few years and my GAS has sort of (temporarily?) burned out.  I think I've started to "zero in" on what I really like, or don't like, in a guitar.  I'd like to have a clearout - if I can bring myself to do it - and get one or two really nice "keepers".

The only problems with that are:
1. The lingering fear that that "dream guitar" might not turn out to be everything I'd hoped (unless it also came with a set of dream fingers...)
2. The feeling that a couple of grand is an awful lot to spend on a guitar for someone who basically can't play for toffee (although in fact it's no worse than spending the same money on 3 or 4 guitars.  And waiting for it to be built might be a useful exercise in being patient and non-impulsive).

Quote from: warpthrone
Your just lucky you have money to spend in the first place, I'm fourteen and I can't get a job anywhere.

Ah, we've all been there.  Before you know it you'll be 44 and wishing you were 14 again.  Well, maybe not 14, but 20-something anyway.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: 38thBeatle on May 25, 2008, 07:49:01 PM
My guitar related earnings go into the general housekeeping pot -much to my irritation. I used to use it to buy my little luxuries but like many others right now I am feeling the pinch and any gear is a luxury item unless it is to enable me to continue playing.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Ian Price on May 25, 2008, 07:57:42 PM
Totally agree with Johnathan on this. I've had a big collection of guitars in the past. The probs with this were 1) I had too many to play 2) They were all mid-low price range. I now have 2 quality Fenders and don't plan on ever selling them. All I need now is either a PRS (Custom 24 or SC245) or a custom build from somewhere.

I honestly believe I will be happy when I have the final piece in my jigsaw. At least that's what I am trying to convince my self anyway!
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: JDC on May 26, 2008, 12:05:24 AM
if it was me I'd take the money and stick it in the bank, but then I budget everything and never impulse buy

I never went on holiday as a kid so I don't see the point of it, a holiday to me is going to a festival
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Will on May 26, 2008, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: JDC
if it was me I'd take the money and stick it in the bank, but then I budget everything and never impulse buy

I never went on holiday as a kid so I don't see the point of it, a holiday to me is going to a festival


The holidays I did go on were with my Mother, so a souring experience, festivals are the best type of holiday :D
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: ailean on May 26, 2008, 10:42:22 AM
I think myself and Sue are well known for spending too much on gear, and frankly if I got a load of money then at least a good portion of it would go in more gear. Generally I agree with you donovanx, there isn't anything I'd rather spend the money on.

I only partially agree with Johnathan, I've never been one for trading stuff, if I buy it I intend to keep it generally, that's not true of some of the cheaper gear I've bought, but I think all of the guitars we have now, and certainly the main amp are keepers. However this in no way means that I wouldn't buy more gear. If I could afford it I'd have a load of amps / cabs and guitars (or a start I'd have every set of BK's and a guitar to put them in).

I guess there would come a point where I had gear that just never got used, then I might start selling stuff, to make room for the new gear, but I'd rather keep collecting it  :roll:  :oops:
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: WezV on May 26, 2008, 10:56:00 AM
my girlfriend  (actually, i may have to start saying fiancee) fully understands that any guitar related earnings  (seperate to my full time job) are mine to spend on tools, piles of wood, pickups and hardware and the occasional tattoo

although that didnt stop me saving up all my repair monies this year to get an engagement ring  - possibly my biggest non-guitar related purchase.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: _tom_ on May 26, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
Most of my money goes into guitar stuff :oops: If its not that its my bike but I havent bought anything expensive for that for ages (well I bought a new saddle the other day but it was only £20!).

My guitar funds will be going down shortly though because I now have a car again and insurance/petrol isnt cheap :(
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Roobubba on May 26, 2008, 11:11:02 AM
Quote from: WezV
my girlfriend  (actually, i may have to start saying fiancee) fully understands that any guitar related earnings  (seperate to my full time job) are mine to spend on tools, piles of wood, pickups and hardware and the occasional tattoo

although that didnt stop me saving up all my repair monies this year to get an engagement ring  - possibly my biggest non-guitar related purchase.


Woo, congrats!!
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: WezV on May 26, 2008, 11:53:09 AM
cheers roo, shes put up with so much guitar related boredom  from me over the years i figured i had to hold onto her
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: noodleplugerine on May 26, 2008, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: WezV
my girlfriend  (actually, i may have to start saying fiancee) fully understands that any guitar related earnings  (seperate to my full time job) are mine to spend on tools, piles of wood, pickups and hardware and the occasional tattoo

although that didnt stop me saving up all my repair monies this year to get an engagement ring  - possibly my biggest non-guitar related purchase.


Congrats Wezman!!!!
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on May 26, 2008, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: WezV
my girlfriend  (actually, i may have to start saying fiancee) fully understands that any guitar related earnings  (seperate to my full time job) are mine to spend on tools, piles of wood, pickups and hardware and the occasional tattoo

although that didnt stop me saving up all my repair monies this year to get an engagement ring  - possibly my biggest non-guitar related purchase.

Ah, you old romantic!  Congratulations!  :D
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 26, 2008, 01:07:12 PM
Congrat Wez!

Before running my business I always used to ensure that any money I made from music gear or doing a bit of private work went back into new music gear or tools for making guitars. whilst the 9-5 job paid for everything else.

At times it was tough - especially when I had a long term  girlfriend who earned a lot more than me so she wanted to take more holidays which I couldn't afford - even if I spent my guitar money on holidays instead.

As for any ideas about having children - that was a complete no-no for me
You would have to sell all your gear and take a second job just to start paying for that " luxury"

Thankfully now I have a girlfriend who is a lot more tolerant of my guitar passions and only complains when the amp  collection starts to get out of hand, and even then she is only teasing. She has an allergy to children and much prefers owning a cat (even a high maintenance Persian one ) which I cant fault.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: _tom_ on May 26, 2008, 01:12:33 PM
Nice one wez, sounds like you found a keeper! :P
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: WezV on May 26, 2008, 02:55:57 PM
cheers guys, in fairness it has been a long time coming as we have been together since i was 17 and living together about 6 years now... infact when we told her dad yesterday he said that he thought we already were engaged :?

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Thankfully now I have a girlfriend who is a lot more tolerant of my guitar passions and only complains when the amp  collection starts to get out of hand,


yeah, we had an issue with amps about a year back - somehow i had got to 5 which is crazy for someone who hardly plays guitar.. i got rid of most of them and ordered my matamp.. she likes the red amp and it kind of matches our decorating.  the only thing she gets really fed up with is the number of cardboard boxes i seem to gather
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: MDV on May 26, 2008, 03:22:35 PM
I'm in complete agreement. Spending large amounts of money on non-guitar/audio things just doesnt even enter my head.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 26, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: WezV
she likes the red amp and it kind of matches our decorating.


You have no idea how universally true that can be.

I have had customers who have wanted to order a guitar much to the displeasure of their wives , and found that when they chose to have a nice "furniture" guitar - all pretty maple and subtle colours any objections that their wife had seem to melt away as the guitar will blend with the decor.

In my case I just need to find a leopard print amplifier - my lady seems to have a thing for leopard print if tastefully done.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: dave_mc on May 26, 2008, 05:48:32 PM
congrats wez!

I love spending tons of money on guitars, but holidays are awesome as well.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: 38thBeatle on May 26, 2008, 06:15:47 PM
Well done Wez. I agree that if you get a good ( i.e. gear tolerant) one it is best to hold on.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Jonny on May 26, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: WezV
the only thing she gets really fed up with is the number of cardboard boxes i seem to gather

Can never be too sure when those cardboard droughts arise.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: remak on June 08, 2008, 06:13:26 PM
I kinda have the opposite problem.

I confess to being a scrooge. Before I buy anything I will prevaricate for months (it's a lot of money, can we afford it ... isn't just a luxury, will I actually use it, ermmmm...).

But, the missis is a wild-ass Frankfurt girl and  it's like ...

>Remak!, Are you looking at guitar porn on ze interweb again????

>>emmm, errr... click, click, click, noooooo, just this Harvey Benton guitar strap for 8 euros.

>So what is in ze browser you are hiding behind that one???

>>Errr, nothing .....

>I wish to see!!!!!

>>OK, its this 3500 Euro vintage Fenderson '59 lust bucket delux... obviously its too much money but ....

>Ze quality is execllent, Ja? The workmanship is of highest standards, rrrrrrrrrichtig?

>>Yes.

> Then this quality will be remembered long after price is forgotten, as your Feline Guitars are having said. You must buy now or this chance will be forever away going.

>>But we won't be able to pay the rent for the next 3 months!

> Nonsense! our legal insurance will keep the landlord in court the next 5 years, by that time we will have moved anyway. Buy it immediately !!! Then also clean toilet!, I am not your putzfrau!!!

and ya know what? She is always right.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: noodleplugerine on June 08, 2008, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: remak
I kinda have the opposite problem.

I confess to being a scrooge. Before I buy anything I will prevaricate for months (it's a lot of money, can we afford it ... isn't just a luxury, will I actually use it, ermmmm...).

But, the missis is a wild-ass German girl and  it's like ...

>Remak!, Are you looking at guitar porn on the interweb again????

>>emmm, errr... click, click, click, noooooo, just this Harvey Benton guitar strap for 15 euros.

>So what is in the browser you are hiding behind that one???

>>Errr, nothing .....

>I wish to see!!!!!

>>OK, its this 3500 Euro vintage Fenderson '59 lust bucket delux... obviously its too much money but ....

>The quality is execllent, Ja? The workmanship is of the highest standards, richtig?

>>Yes.

> Then the quality will be remembered long after the price is long forgotten, as your Feline Guitars are having said. You must buy now or this chance will be forever away going.

>>But we won't be able to pay the rent for the next 3 months!

> Nonsense our legal insurance will keep the landlord in court the next 5 years, by that time we will have moved anyway. Buy it immediately !!! Then also clean toilet!, I am not your putzfrau!!!

and ya know what? She is always right.


LMFAO

That was honestly the funniest thing I've read in months.

Brilliant ;D
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Will on June 08, 2008, 06:39:05 PM
Quote from: remak
I kinda have the opposite problem.

I confess to being a scrooge. Before I buy anything I will prevaricate for months (it's a lot of money, can we afford it ... isn't just a luxury, will I actually use it, ermmmm...).

But, the missis is a wild-ass Frankfurt girl and  it's like ...

>Remak!, Are you looking at guitar porn on ze interweb again????

>>emmm, errr... click, click, click, noooooo, just this Harvey Benton guitar strap for 8 euros.

>So what is in ze browser you are hiding behind that one???

>>Errr, nothing .....

>I wish to see!!!!!

>>OK, its this 3500 Euro vintage Fenderson '59 lust bucket delux... obviously its too much money but ....

>Ze quality is execllent, Ja? The workmanship is of highest standards, rrrrrrrrrichtig?

>>Yes.

> Then this quality will be remembered long after price is forgotten, as your Feline Guitars are having said. You must buy now or this chance will be forever away going.

>>But we won't be able to pay the rent for the next 3 months!

> Nonsense! our legal insurance will keep the landlord in court the next 5 years, by that time we will have moved anyway. Buy it immediately !!! Then also clean toilet!, I am not your putzfrau!!!

and ya know what? She is always right.


I really must agree with Noodle, very funny. She sounds a bit off her rocker if you don't mind me saying though! :P
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: remak on June 08, 2008, 06:59:20 PM
Quote
\She sounds a bit off
her rocker if you don't mind me saying though!


Na, not off her rocker,  just, a rocker  ...

My taste in music: Derek Bailey, Robert Fripp, David Sylvian, Wes Montgomery, Miles Davis.

Her taste in music: Led Zep, ACDC,  Beethoven, Primus, NiN etc
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: ilÿti on June 08, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: remak
>Ze quality is execllent, Ja? The workmanship is of highest standards, rrrrrrrrrichtig?

Bwahahahah

I think I'm a lot like remak on this point. I can go for months of "I neeeeeeed that" and then end up not buying it because my GAS has moved in another direction. I'm not very spontaneous with anything really, and neither is my girlfriend, which is good because we really don't have that much money.  :lol:
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on June 08, 2008, 08:01:48 PM
Quote from: ilyti
I think I'm a lot like remak on this point. I can go for months of "I neeeeeeed that" and then end up not buying it because my GAS has moved in another direction. I'm not very spontaneous with anything really, and neither is my girlfriend, which is good because we really don't have that much money.  :lol:

Good for you.  Patience is the only known cure for GAS, whereas

GAS + Spontaneity = Trouble

I, on the other hand, am extremely non-spontaneous in most aspects of life, except when it comes to spending money.  Should have more sense by my age. :(

Can't argue with Mrs Remak's reasoning though.  :lol:
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: dave_mc on June 09, 2008, 08:17:33 PM
i'm the same as ilyti... at any given time i have GAS for about 50 different things, but by the time i get round to doing anything about it (or even better, try the thing and decide I don't like it), my GAS has moved on...
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: remak on June 10, 2008, 09:56:56 PM
Beware the 22:30h decision to browse Ebay with a glass of wine in the hand.
Title: Would you choose this over Guitar stuff?
Post by: Philly Q on June 10, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: remak
Beware the 22:30h decision to browse Ebay with a glass of wine in the hand.

Go on then, what have you bought?