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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: CJ on June 02, 2008, 03:44:00 AM

Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 02, 2008, 03:44:00 AM
hey guys. i haven't been around in a while, haven't been playing the guitar all that much. but with the summer coming up, i'm looking to get some new gear. i'm probably going to be spending around $1000 (graduation $$$) and i'm going to get a new guitar, and possibly a power amp to go with my Engl e530.
Are there any decent power amps that i can get used for around like $200 bucks or something? I know that seems too cheap, but i remember hearing that one Peavey pre is really nice and can be found for like $200 used. I'm looking to get something as cheap as possible, almost definitely used, so i can spend most of the money on a guitar.

thanks.
Title: power amp?
Post by: PhilKing on June 02, 2008, 11:53:34 AM
Peavey have a 50/50 tube power amp that comes up on eBay every so often.  I'm not sure how much they wil be, but they are pretty cheap.
Title: power amp?
Post by: Stevepage on June 02, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
yeah the Peavey 50/50 is fairly cheap and a decent poweramp. Has a resonance knob too so you can get more 'thud' if need be.
Title: power amp?
Post by: indysmith on June 02, 2008, 01:40:16 PM
I had that peavey poweramp and loved it. Sold it simply because I didn't use it very often (prefer to have an all-in-one amp, hence the JCM800 combo).

They are EL84 powered, but I think there's also a 6L6 powered one that was available.
Title: power amp?
Post by: the_bleeding on June 02, 2008, 10:29:58 PM
you could try for one of those sunn solid state slaves, but watch for them, the name sunn makes people stupid and over pay on them.
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 02, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
ok guys, thanks for the help. i hope i'll have the money for it. i've been looking at the deans for about a year now, but none of the guitars seemed quite right for me. but i just looked on their page for the first time in a few months and saw they had TONS of new guitars. i'm really liking the ML dimeslime and the razorback 255 dimeslime. i've been waiting for them to come out with some type of burst finish on a razorback.
ok, so i'm going off topic, but i might as well just continue it here.
the 255 razorback, which i'm leaning towards, has a pair of EMG 81/85's in it. that's great, i want EMG's, but i don't want them in the razorback. i'm going to want to put some BKP's in that one. will i have all the stuff I need, and room, to switch the EMG's into my Vee, and the pickups from my V into the Dime? i'm hoping it should be an easy switch since both guitars have three knobs.
Title: power amp?
Post by: PhilKing on June 03, 2008, 12:12:01 PM
You will have to swtch the pots too, as EMG's use 25K pots.
Title: power amp?
Post by: WezV on June 03, 2008, 12:19:57 PM
if the razorback comes from the factory with EMG's they might not have drilled for the wire from the bridge to the control cavity

Passive pickups will need this wire installing

not too difficult on a trem equipped guitar but can be a right git if it was a TOM guitar
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 03, 2008, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: WezV
if the razorback comes from the factory with EMG's they might not have drilled for the wire from the bridge to the control cavity

Passive pickups will need this wire installing

not too difficult on a trem equipped guitar but can be a right git if it was a TOM guitar


will all of this be easy enough for a newb like me? i've changed my pickups before, but thats about the only guitar work i've done.

changing pots... is that going to require me unsoldering all of the wiring to get them out?
Title: power amp?
Post by: Philly Q on June 03, 2008, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: callme.nasty
will all of this be easy enough for a newb like me? i've changed my pickups before, but thats about the only guitar work i've done.

changing pots... is that going to require me unsoldering all of the wiring to get them out?

Adding the ground wire shouldn't be too hard, as Wez said - you'll need to drill a hole from the control cavity to the trem spring cavity, but they're right next to each other so it should be easy to see where you're drilling if you're looking at the back of the guitar.  Then you feed through a wire, solder one end to the spring claw and the other to the back of a pot.

And yes, you'll need to unsolder (or cut) all of the wiring to get the pickups and pots out - everything will need replacing except the switch.
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 03, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
ok. does anyone have any recommendations between the Razorback and the ML? does anyone know if their LFR's are any good?
Title: power amp?
Post by: JDC on June 03, 2008, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: callme.nasty
ok. does anyone have any recommendations between the Razorback and the ML? does anyone know if their LFR's are any good?


I hear their licensed floyds are rubbish, but I've no experience of them myself

personally I'd go with the ML, I tried both and the razorback has a long sticky out bit going all the way down the neck, felt weird and put me right off but then you might like it

best to try it and find out for yourself
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 03, 2008, 10:33:43 PM
yeah i'm going to go out and try them and buy one in store. just looking for opinions so i might know of some things to look for. i'll make sure i compare the two necks.
Title: power amp?
Post by: Brow on June 04, 2008, 12:13:57 AM
I had a Dean ML a while ago and it's licenced Floyd Rose was rubbish. Then again, most of the guitar was in hindsight  :lol:
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 04, 2008, 02:12:14 AM
Quote from: Brow
I had a Dean ML a while ago and it's licenced Floyd Rose was rubbish. Then again, most of the guitar was in hindsight  :lol:


what didn't you like about it? and which ML was it? they make some good ones and some garbage ones, or at least it appears so. Last time i was at guitar center they all seemed to play much better than my gibsons. but then again i only picked up each one for a couple seconds.
Title: power amp?
Post by: Brow on June 04, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: callme.nasty


what didn't you like about it? and which ML was it? they make some good ones and some garbage ones, or at least it appears so. Last time i was at guitar center they all seemed to play much better than my gibsons. but then again i only picked up each one for a couple seconds.


I think mine was a low end 1. It had a single colour finish, a bolt on neck and generally felt cheap. I think it was an ML-XT, I could be wrong though.
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 05, 2008, 02:46:16 AM
Quote from: Brow
Quote from: callme.nasty


what didn't you like about it? and which ML was it? they make some good ones and some garbage ones, or at least it appears so. Last time i was at guitar center they all seemed to play much better than my gibsons. but then again i only picked up each one for a couple seconds.


I think mine was a low end 1. It had a single colour finish, a bolt on neck and generally felt cheap. I think it was an ML-XT, I could be wrong though.


yeah, those are like sub-$200 guitars, so i'm hoping that's why you didn't like it.
Title: power amp?
Post by: noodleplugerine on June 05, 2008, 09:37:14 AM
Quote from: callme.nasty
Quote from: Brow
I had a Dean ML a while ago and it's licenced Floyd Rose was rubbish. Then again, most of the guitar was in hindsight  :lol:


what didn't you like about it? and which ML was it? they make some good ones and some garbage ones, or at least it appears so. Last time i was at guitar center they all seemed to play much better than my gibsons. but then again i only picked up each one for a couple seconds.


Personally I despise the Razorbacks, everyone I've played has felt plasticy, sounded lifeless, and the neck has the weirdest shape ever. And yeah, the floyd isn't very good at all - You'd want an original the moment you bought it.

But hey - I'm sure you can find a good one.

The funny thing is, the worst Razorback I've ever played was a $4500 USA Custom shop. I don't think I've ever played a worse guitar worth over £300.

If you want the look there's not much else you can get, so just make sure you like the neck shape, and make sure you get a good one. And then replace the floyd...
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 05, 2008, 09:55:07 PM
yeah i'm leaning towards the ML. but i don't know, maybe i'll like the razorback's neck. i think i'm gonna head down to a store friday or saturday, and then maybe go buy one monday or tuesday, so i'll let you guys know how it goes. any other suggestions? i'm definitely going to try the Rhoad's guitars, but i'm not sure if i want one since i already have a V styled guitar.

its weird, it seems people tend to either love or hate deans. everyone says they either won't play anything else, or they won't pick one up.
Title: power amp?
Post by: CJ on June 25, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
well i checked a few different stores, and after debating on which guitar to buy for the past 8 months, i bought myself a Dean Dime Slime ML. Its a Dean From Hell except with the Dime Slime finish. I had to buy it online, though, no one has these in stores. i bought it off musicians friend along with Guyatone MO-3 micro octaver pedal. This i've never heard of, but it looked like fun, so i went for it.
i've still got some money left that i'm not quite sure what to do with yet. maybe a/some BKP's, maybe an OFR, and maybe a power amp. i'll decide after i play the guitar for a while.
i'll be sure to post some pics.