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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gamesandy135 on June 23, 2008, 05:25:22 PM

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gamesandy135 on June 23, 2008, 05:25:22 PM

So, pretty much as the title suggests.  Given the choice, would you guys opt for a 1x12 extension cabinet or a 2x10?
It's for my Laney, I want to get a matching ext. cab and I'm not really sure what the benefits of either would be (Laney do matching 1x12/2x10 cab).  
I suppose a bit fuller/more bass with a 1x12 and more chime/top-end with the 2x10?
Anyway, what would you go for?

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gwEm on June 23, 2008, 05:41:49 PM

1x12 every time :) i think 12" just sound as an amp is supposed to sound.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Daniel G on June 23, 2008, 06:59:30 PM

1x12, because it just sounds better to me.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gamesandy135 on June 23, 2008, 08:46:56 PM

I tend to agree about the 1x12, just I've never used 10" speakers.
So, think I'll stick with the consensus and get the 1x12.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: shaman on June 23, 2008, 08:48:34 PM

don't know how familiar you are with a 1x12 ported cab(a Thiele, for ex.), but they sound as big as a 4x12 in my book

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: headtheball on June 23, 2008, 09:16:36 PM

Because I'm crooked. A 1x15".

Good mix with an existing 2x10".

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gamesandy135 on June 23, 2008, 09:35:57 PM

A 1x15?  Madness I say.

I'm not familiar at all with ported cabs.  I'll do a bit of research.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: noodleplugerine on June 23, 2008, 09:36:36 PM

1x12 - A k-100 preferably.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on June 23, 2008, 10:41:03 PM

If you DO decide on a 1x10 the Celestion G10 vintage is the best all rounder I've heard, it has a very big sound, and the bass is never flabby or annoyingly overpowering.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: headtheball on June 24, 2008, 12:56:11 AM

No-one ever wants the 15".

Story o' my life.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Twinfan on June 24, 2008, 08:45:48 AM

I take it your current amp is a 1x12?  I'd match it with a 1x12 cab.  Nice 1/4 stack then  :)

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gamesandy135 on June 24, 2008, 09:27:09 AM

Yeah, current setup is a 1x12 combo.
 You're right though, would be a nice little mini stack  :)
I think I'll go for the 1x12 all said and done.

Out of curiosity, and conversations sake, why would a guitarist go for a 2x10 or 10" speakers overall?  Just for the reason stated above, punchier top-end/mid-range?

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Twinfan on June 24, 2008, 09:47:19 AM

They are quite punchy, and by no means a lesser option.  They're nice and compact, therefore lighter, making them easier to lug around.

Fender amps have used a variety of different sized speakers since the 50s, but Marshall started the standard 12inch size with their JTM45 half stacks.  It was what they could get at the time, and the legend was born.

Personally, I'm going to get a Fender-style 2x12 combo at some point as they sound lovely for cleans.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: martinw on June 24, 2008, 11:11:59 AM

Don't you mean 2x10?  :?

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Twinfan on June 24, 2008, 12:23:35 PM

Doh!  Cheers mate!  Dodgy typo!

I mean a 2x10 Fender-style combo.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: tomjackson on June 24, 2008, 01:31:24 PM

I'd go for the 2x10.  You already have a 1x12 in the amp so this would give you the best of both worlds and open up options for recording.  You could mic a 12inch and a 10inch and then chose the best one at mixdown, or blend them.

And the 2x10 configuration does not have less bass, it's just that the low end is raised slightly , say (total guess) 15hz higher.  I find that this adds more high bass/low mid punch.  Also, smaller coils have a quicker response and hence quicker attack.

I used to have the Laney mini stack like this, the extension cabs are the same size anyway so you won't be able to tell whether there's 2x10 or 1x12 inside.

If I was going for just the combo I'd say 1x12 although the Vibroverb 2x10's are sweet amps

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: shaman on June 24, 2008, 09:39:07 PM

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/cavatator/thielebaby.jpg)

here is what one Thiele 1x12 leads to!!.....check out the ease and versatility of such a set up....a head and a Thiele is sooo easy on the back-paired with a combo is killer as well-we can take 1 cab,2 cabs,etc...sound is huge!!!(of course, these are all loaded with EVm 12L speakers-a load,indeed....)

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Roobubba on June 25, 2008, 07:39:26 AM

I'm now a big fan of muxing speaker sizes in a rig, I've got a 4 x 12 and another 4 speaker cab containing 2 8" speakers and 2 15" speakers.

I'd say go for the 2 x 10", as the breadth of acoustic options this gives you will be really nice, IMHO :)

Roo

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Pete24v on June 25, 2008, 09:11:06 AM

I had the same 2x10" cab, i prefered it over the 1x12, seemed to give a bit more of everything. could've been down to the speaker though..

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: sgmypod on June 25, 2008, 09:40:29 AM

I now have gas for shaman setup

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: shaman on June 25, 2008, 01:39:57 PM

Quote from: sgmypod

I now have gas for shaman setup

thanks- 8)

you should see the wood in person...almost 3 dimensional-they do incredible work in their custom shop
the ported Thieles are massive sounding-must be heard to believe

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: sgmypod on June 25, 2008, 01:42:01 PM

yeah pretty and bet they sound good as well..is one for stage(black) and one for home

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: gamesandy135 on June 25, 2008, 04:48:42 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys.
I see that opinion is really mixed and down to taste.
I was all but set on the 1x12 but now I'm not so sure.  I was going to get it and change the speaker for the Celestion K-100 as I've heard so many good things about it.
Don't suppose there is an equivalent 10" speaker?
I looked on their site (Celestion) and seen a "Tube 10" speaker that seems roughly in line with a K-100.
That said, I'm discounting other speaker manufacturers of which I have very limited experience.

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: Roobubba on June 25, 2008, 05:41:00 PM

Ahh, well you didn't say you'd change it for a K-100... I'm going to change my mind from a 2 x 10 to a 1 x 12 in that case :)

Roo

Title: Given the choice, a 1x12 or a 2x10?
Post by: shaman on June 25, 2008, 09:23:07 PM

Quote from: sgmypod

yeah pretty and bet they sound good as well..is one for stage(black) and one for home

indeed!!!the wood is insured by 2 pitbulls and a Smith and Wesson .44 mag, and never leaves the house!!