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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: MDV on June 24, 2008, 10:14:37 PM
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This is the intro to my latest track. Its enttitled Universal Truth (Lies Here).
Cleans:
Cold Sweat Split left
Irish tour neck and middle wired in series right
Harmonics: Monster Miracle Man (Very much out of character application for quite possibly/probably the most powerfull BK out there! - you'll see)
Distorted: C-Pig 4-tracked.
All of its though a Vox tonelab LE.
(Excuses: I know some parts are shoddy, like the harmonics, but its just a rough draft: most of it isnt even written yet (just ideas)
Enjoy!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3702469/Universal%20Truth%20%28Lies%20Here%29.mp3
Newer version. More ideas. Somewhat skeletal, IMO (though, my vocalist loves it as is *shrug*)
Oh, all distored rhythm guitars are still C-Pig. Harmonies are Monster-MM
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three things:
1. Thats Awesome!
2. It's Got me gassing for a tonelab LE and a C-pig.
3. I want to hear the rest!
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:lol:
Thanks mate!! 8)
Oh, I should add: the drums are just sketch drums. Hence the extreme sparsity of cymbals. DFH Sup. The cold sweat is a neck, in case its not obvious.
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Good tone and I liked the riffage :) Only thing with the tone is it sounds a bit dull/compressed for my taste - with a bit less gain/more treble or mid I think itd sound awesome. Got me gassing for a tonelab again :x
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Sounds great too me! I don't really like single coil clean alltogether so obviously I'm biased on that, but I'm sure it sounded very good. Reminds me of "Repentence" off DT's latest album.
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The cleans sound divine. However, i have to strongly agree with Tom on this one and say that the distortion is way too sterile and compressed. If you are still using the Powerball, i should think you could get more three-dimensionality out of the tone. For me, the harmonics sounded kind of weird. At first they were kind of interesting, but as the song came along they seemed to get weirder and weirder, out of place really. They tone on them sounded good, but their placement didn't seem to suit the rest of the music. I think if you pushed that distorted tone into the 3-D area this would be a lot stronger. Good work! It is inspiring, i have been feeling a little down about my playing recently, but this is a good inspiration for me. :)
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Cheers guys. Thank you especially for the comments on the tune!
The sound is a little too dark, but its supposed to be, and its supposed to be compressed. Its meant to be taught and tense - dark tone with compression (which is a property only of the amount of gain used, which was actually very, very modest)
However, I referenced it round my other gear a bit, and it is a little darker than I might like too. Not much (matter of taste, obviously), but it is. so I made a slightly brighter version. I cant upload it at the moment though - I'm at work.
Opp-9, I'm not using my powerball, in my flat, to rough tracks out! Maniac. When its done, I'll record it with that (when the guy below me goes on holiday or something! - he doesnt mind 20 or 30 minutes here and there, but all day might be pushing it a bit :lol: )
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The riff sounds great and was expecting a massive crushing tone when it kicked in. It sounds like the amp is behind a wall or something then miked up.
Cool playing though.
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Nice tones and song!!!! Keep forward to make these "ideas" a song
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Thanks fellas!
Newer version is in the original post, if anyones interested?
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The distortion sounds quite a bit better now!!
EDIT: verse 2 the second time around is $%in awesome man!
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The distortion sounds quite a bit better now!!
EDIT: verse 2 the second time around is $%&#in awesome man!
Thanks dude 8)
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That was really good. Monstrous riffs and great build-upping.
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It kind of reminds me of Down for some reason. It sounds good, I really want to hear it after it's more developed and with a proper drum track, good job!
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Heavy 8)
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Thanks folks :D
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Great song and tone as an idea. Obviously your going to work further and harder on it. :guitar4:
Awesome didn't realise you were registered on here. You can guess who I am as I also use the Warpig and Cold Sweat in an Epiphone guitar haha :P
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Great song and tone as an idea. Obviously your going to work further and harder on it. :guitar4:
Awesome didn't realise you were registered on here. You can guess who I am as I also use the Warpig and Cold Sweat in an Epiphone guitar haha :P
Threadnomancer!
Yeah, this is getting an overhaul with the rest of them. Just waiting on my 4-way splitter, SD twin tube mayhem and re-amp box to realise my new recording method/s. (Hint - 4 trackings a pain and so's having to find and stick with a tone or replay everything when you find a better one)
Welcome to the boards, Craig :D
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So the reamp box. I understand this part because the output of a guitar pick-up is entirely different from the output of professional recording equipment. What is the purpose in simple terms like why do you need one apart from what is mentioned above?. You can record without out one so what does it do specifically?
SFX-04 Twin Tube Mayhem LOOKS impressive.
PDT_002
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I spend hours faffing with sounds and never get any playing done.
If I record a direct signal from the guitar to my RME then I can use the reamp box to take a line level signal back out of the RME later and into anything with a high-z input for pickups (amps, preamps, modellers) later. This means you can focus on getting good takes and change the sound to whatever you want later.
With that and my splitter I can line into (in orginal takes or reamped recordings) any combination of 4 of my bits of kits and record the same take with loads of different combinations of gear and settings without having to play it perfectly again and again, which gets very time cosuming and is hard work!
Between this and my PB, 4 mics, tonelab LE, Pod XT, JD10, TTM, Vox VTXL and an amp that HTH and I are going to hammer out, I should be able to realise my ultimate plan - double track through 2 or more things at once so I can use lower gain for clarity, but have the sounds add for thickness and blend two or more tones in a way that plays to the strengths of the seperate tones and masks their weaknesses, rather that do the same with 4-tracking, which is also onerous to get all the takes to be good and very unforgiving, since two tracks panned in a stereo field can tollerate maybe 5 to 10ms of differential in attack, but out of the same speaker even less that 5ms between note strikes fouls the attack of both notes and makes muddy sloppy sound (yes, I've measured this by zooming in in cubase on what sounds synced and clear and what doesnt).
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Wow! This shite is good! Very Isis-esque post-metal vibe to it all.
Top Stuff!
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Thanks dude :D
(I lOVE Isis)
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that sounds pretty good. :) giant file, though, took me ages to successfully download it (and that was just the intro!)...
sounds a wee bit like corrosion of conformity, maybe?
:)
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Cheers bud
I can see how you'd see coc in there. Not the vibe I was going for, but yeah. That said one of my tracks has been compared by different people to Isis, battles-but-with-distortion, korn (ewwwwww!), early machine head and a couple of others I forget. I can only discern from that that it doesnt really sound like anyone :lol: (A full rework of that track is on its way! The old version is kicking round on here somewhere, but its changed. A lot. Will post up when ready).
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Are you in a band?
It's truly an inspiration-song for me...
Loved the tone__
Which guitar are you playing? (sorry if you already mentioned it...I've lost it!)
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Thank you :)
Doesnt look like I have a band any more - the vocalist that was the only other even slightly active member said he doesnt want to do vocals any more (odd you should ask, as he said this just last night), so Invective (as I'm now calling it, rather than Mortal Coil) is a solo instrumental project (something I decided barely an hour ago).
That of course means the tracks are going to have to be re-written to stand alone without tailoring the structure for vocals, but all the better.
If you liked that there are a couple of other rough tracks
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19791.0
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13664.0
All of them use my Legra MDV602 http://www.legraguitars.co.uk/mdv602.htm and memento mori uses my still relatively new Legra Aurora http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19131.0 (finished round page 7 or 8 or so)
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Very Nice!
Great Idea
What Guitar you used??
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Thanks! It was my MDV602 (see post above for link), which was then equiped with a c-pig bridge.