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Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: hhcave on June 25, 2008, 10:27:29 PM
Hi,

Could someone please recommend some good delay pedals as i'm in the market for one...

I would quite like it to have true bypass but that is rare in delay pedals... Also an analogue one would be great but thats not ruling out digital ones - i really liked the sound of the Mad Professor Deep Blue Delay!

Money isn't really a problem with a stompbox... I just want the 'best' so that i don't have to look to upgrade in the future...

Thanks![/code]
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: badgermark on June 25, 2008, 10:42:02 PM
Wrong forum- this would get more responses in the guitar amp effects forum.

I like my BYOC delay- true bypass and really analogue sounding. Does mean you have to build it yourelf.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: cnotold on June 26, 2008, 02:53:38 AM
timefactor all the way.. i have one and i've never been happier with a delay unit. but if you would like more vintage tone empress super delay sounded like the best option. as badgermark mentioned you can use guitar, effect board instead of this board
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Fikealox on June 26, 2008, 03:28:24 AM
Eventide Timefactor for sure :D I'm saving for one right now. The sound quality is awesome, the features unparallelled. It's just great!
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Catalyst77 on June 26, 2008, 09:59:14 AM
Quote from: badgermark
Wrong forum- this would get more responses in the guitar amp effects forum.

I like my BYOC delay- true bypass and really analogue sounding. Does mean you have to build it yourelf.


Actually you can order them prebuilt via the Canadian distributers axes r us; although wheres the fun in that!

If you'er after organic delay BYOC gets my vote; although its not as flexible or ranging as a Boss D5 for example.

Ive heard good things about the nova delay too.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Ratrod on June 26, 2008, 10:07:22 AM
What sort of deley sounds are you looking for?

If you want slap echo, Brian May delay and Led Zeppelin delay sounds, you can't beat the Boss RE-20. It perfectly mimicks the old Roland RE-201 Space Echo. It's digital but you'll never notice. It sounds and reacts as an analogue machine. It's not true bypass but the input volume can add some nice grit to the tone.

Also look into the HBE Mimick. Analogue and true bypass.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: badgermark on June 26, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: Benmartin1977
Quote from: badgermark
Wrong forum- this would get more responses in the guitar amp effects forum.

I like my BYOC delay- true bypass and really analogue sounding. Does mean you have to build it yourelf.


Actually you can order them prebuilt via the Canadian distributers axes r us; although wheres the fun in that!

If you'er after organic delay BYOC gets my vote; although its not as flexible or ranging as a Boss D5 for example.

Ive heard good things about the nova delay too.


Pah- if anyone wants a BYOC pedal build I'll do it for them. My last few have turned out great- and reliable as far as lugging around to rehearsals go. It'll cost you postage and you get to paint it yourself, not tried painting mine yet.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Doctor X on June 26, 2008, 01:10:02 PM
I've recently bought two delays which I'm planning on spending a couple of weeks experimenting with and then I'll sell on my least favourite.  
I've had the MXR 'Carbon Copy' for a few days now and it's excellent.  Up to 600 m/sec of analog delay and a modulation switch which adds a bit of vibrato to the repeat.  It sounds great!
The second is a Carl Martin Delayla XL, which I picked up from the local Royal Mail depot this morning and have yet to try.  It's digital with a supposed 'analog feel' and has up to 1000m/sec of delay with a tap tempo switch and 2 delay 'heads'.  I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do!
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: CUBE on June 26, 2008, 01:18:23 PM
timefactor the coolest delay i have tried
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Johnny Mac on June 26, 2008, 08:57:25 PM
Eventide or T.C Electronics Nova, T-Rex Replica or the new Roland Space echo is good. Line 6 do one that everyone seems to have on their pedal board. Not sure of the model but they're green!
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: DeanS on June 26, 2008, 09:35:36 PM
EHX echo 1 digital but sounds analog-great value too
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Canadian Steve on June 27, 2008, 02:42:25 AM
I would look at the Retro Sonic Analog Delay which is based on the old Boss DM-2 with true bypass and long/short switch.  Just got one a few weeks ago and love it.  For digital delay the Empress Superdelay seems totally awesome as well!
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: hamfist on June 27, 2008, 07:12:01 AM
It all really depends what you are looking for in a delay pedal. For me, I'm looking for a good variety of potential sounds, different memory slots so I can use different delays during songs, tap tempo, and reliability.

  The DD-20 has all of these features, at the best price. Of it's direct competitors, the Nova delay has a number of reported noise issues. The Timefactor is exellent, but much more expensive.

  Another little known point about the DD-20 is that it does no AD-DA conversion to your dry signal at any point, whether on or off. The only digitally produced sound is the actual delays.  I would never in a million years be able to tell that the "analogue" and "tape" modes were digital if I heard them on a recording anyway.

  Can you tell I like DD-20's !!
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Twinfan on June 27, 2008, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: hamfist
It all really depends what you are looking for in a delay pedal.


I completely agree.  We need more info on what you need  :)
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: tomjackson on June 27, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
The Akai E2 Headrush is good, Delay, Echo and looper with tap tempo.
It's digital and has a Hi fi sound but you can get it a bit more vintage sounding with the HF damp that degrades the repeats.  It's not true bypass but it does not seem to affect tone when off.

But no battery power, PSU only (included).

http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/shop/view_product.php?product=akae2headrush
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Pete24v on June 27, 2008, 06:13:12 PM
I really like the Maxon AD-999, my old Boss DD-5 is good for Tap -Tempo moments. A friend of mine has the T-Rex Replica which does a very good job at sounding analog, and has tap tempo
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: temps on June 28, 2008, 12:57:55 AM
I'd recommend against a TC Nova, had one for all of a week before I let it go. Nice sounds, but never got as spacey as I wanted, and the way it stored presets was ridiculous and it would be nigh impossible to change sounds mid-song, and still difficult to change them in between songs. Very, very limited piece.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on July 06, 2008, 12:18:29 AM
If I were you I'd stick to the Mad Proffesor Blue delay, I'm actually gonna get my Boss DD3 replaced with one when I some more money, it's the lushest boutique delay I've heard, as it's proper analog too! It would be well worth the extra money.
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on July 06, 2008, 12:22:06 AM
The Boss DD3 and Boss DD2 are the best and warmest of the digital one's I've heard, but only Made In Japan one's! look for the blue or green label on the back, they sound much warmer than the Korean one's, and the MIJ models darken on the repeats, whereas the Korean ones do not, can't believe no one else has mentioned them too! lol
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Fikealox on July 06, 2008, 12:58:48 AM
The DD2s are excellent :D DD7s are very nice as well, if you would consider going digital. For $160ish they have a LOT of features: 6400ms of delay, expression pedal input, lots of delay modes, and 40 seconds of loop time O_O

I was strongly considering one before my friend bought me a Timefactor  :D
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Doctor X on July 06, 2008, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
If I were you I'd stick to the Mad Proffesor Blue delay, I'm actually gonna get my Boss DD3 replaced with one when I some more money, it's the lushest boutique delay I've heard, as it's proper analog too! It would be well worth the extra money.

The Mad Professor Blue delay is digital, not analog.  It's similar to the Carl Martin Delayla XL that I have, in that it uses analog circuitry but with a digital chip rather than bucket brigade (as seen in the true analog delays). http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/bjf3.php
Title: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: March on July 06, 2008, 12:04:27 PM
I've had a TRex Replica and various TC Electronics delays and have to say that the Timefactor is a fantastic pedal. Initially quite complex as there are a lot of options, but tonally it does not interfere with your amp and has options galore.

I am thinking of getting a Deep Blue for a smaller board I am building.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on July 06, 2008, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
If I were you I'd stick to the Mad Proffesor Blue delay, I'm actually gonna get my Boss DD3 replaced with one when I some more money, it's the lushest boutique delay I've heard, as it's proper analog too! It would be well worth the extra money.
The Mad Professor Blue delay is digital, not analog.  It's similar to the Carl Martin Delayla XL that I have, in that it uses analog circuitry but with a digital chip rather than bucket brigade (as seen in the true analog delays). http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/bjf3.php

I meant it sounds analog, how does the mad prof compare to your carl martin?

Also line 6 echo park is really nice too for an analog simulation, yet another one.
 
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on July 06, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
The DD2s are excellent :D DD7s are very nice as well, if you would consider going digital. For $160ish they have a LOT of features: 6400ms of delay, expression pedal input, lots of delay modes, and 40 seconds of loop time O_O

I was strongly considering one before my friend bought me a Timefactor  :D

wow, didn't know about the DD7, it must be pretty new? It looks very good.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Doctor X on July 06, 2008, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
If I were you I'd stick to the Mad Proffesor Blue delay, I'm actually gonna get my Boss DD3 replaced with one when I some more money, it's the lushest boutique delay I've heard, as it's proper analog too! It would be well worth the extra money.
The Mad Professor Blue delay is digital, not analog.  It's similar to the Carl Martin Delayla XL that I have, in that it uses analog circuitry but with a digital chip rather than bucket brigade (as seen in the true analog delays). http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/bjf3.php

I meant it sounds analog, how does the mad prof compare to your carl martin?

Also line 6 echo park is really nice too for an analog simulation, yet another one.
 
I've not been lucky enough to try the Mad Prof.  The Carl Martin is pretty good though.  I imagine they're probably quite similar really.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: FiXXXeR on July 07, 2008, 11:51:02 AM
i have tried both the Carl Martin Delayla Xl and the TC Electronic vintage delay.

the carl martin was a bit of a let down, it really colors your sound, it makes it sound dull and sucks the top end not only from the repeats but from the original signal.

the TC was alot better but sounded too clinical not much life in it at all, but it didnt color the tone.

i am still looking for that perfect delay pedal, i want to try the fulltone tape delay, that mad professor one that has popped up in this thread alot and the bog standard Boss DD3.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: Doctor X on July 07, 2008, 06:43:50 PM
I don't notice any loss of tone with the Carl Martin.  I'm still disapointed with it though.  I think that making it solely tap tempo and not including a knob for delay time is a major design flaw.  The second delay head is great and can cause some really good sounds, IMO similar to a tape delay.  However, it's no better than the much cheaper Boss Space Echo pedal.  While the delay sound of the CM is good, to my ears it doesn't sound as good as the MXR Carbon Copy.  It's difficult to describe why, but the MXR just sounds richer and more natural.  Maybe there's truth to the theory that analog is more organic sounding than digital?  If you're in the market for a delay then it's worth trying out an MXR as a lot of guitar shops will be stocking them.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: horsehead on August 06, 2008, 06:46:21 AM
has anyone come across the new MXR carbon copy analogue?
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: willo on August 06, 2008, 07:19:11 PM
the TC was alot better but sounded too clinical not much life in it at all, but it didnt color the tone.

Yeah bt thats TC for ya...Gilmour gilmour gilmour gilmour!

actually, what amuses me is that people view the Trex Replica and The TC vintage differently based on the manufacturer etc. I really like my TC, does exactly what I need. The eventide is cool and sounds good but confuses me and the loop function is not exactly intuitive (but the ability to start on the footswitch and reset then start again is good!).

I really am interested in the Carbon Copy but its not true bypass and I never liked the MXR bypass. Other than that the Malekko 3/600's look amazing.
Title: Re: The 'best' delay pedals?
Post by: th3sku11 on August 08, 2008, 11:57:39 AM
First post and all that so 'hi!' to everyone. I've got the Malekko E600 (the bright version) and I like it a lot - its not terribly versatile compared to similarly priced digital models in that there is no tap tempo or saved presets but it has fantastic vintage tone - rich repeats with minimal distortion and very little noise. Handles overdrive/distortion pedals very well. Clean with a touch of chorus is fantastic - very big and ambient.

I did have a calibration problem with mine out of the box - there was some really high frequency noise leaking through on the repeats. I emailed the owner via the malekko site and he got back to me with the simple fix very quickly - I've had no problems since.

So if its more of a Pink Floyd/U2 thing you are looking for then I'd heartily recommend it.