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Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: jllozano on July 03, 2008, 12:52:25 PM

what would be better for low tuned guitar (Bflat) ?   ...ceramic magnet

painkiller,ceramic nailbomb,ceramic warpig....

what would you choose?

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 03, 2008, 04:12:29 PM

Any of the above, and MM as well. What sort of tone do you want?

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: wintersun on July 03, 2008, 04:28:21 PM

wouldn't warpig sound too dark in mahogany?

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Antag on July 03, 2008, 04:57:38 PM

Of the 3 you listed I'd choose Painkiller, but my #1 preference would be an Alnico Warpig - I have that pickup in my Gothic V tuned to drop-Bb & it has all the power & intensity I need for that tuning.  FWIW I even recorded a brief clip (http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11728) with it...

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 03, 2008, 05:34:51 PM

Quote from: wintersun

wouldn't warpig sound too dark in mahogany?

No.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: jllozano on July 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM

i already had an alnico warpig and nailbomb there.....awesome sound....but i need ceramic.......i play death metal only and i need the cold precision ceramic giver me ....... would painkiller give me the sound and the precision?

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 03, 2008, 05:38:23 PM

Quote from: jllozano

i already had an alnico warpig and nailbomb there.....awesome sound....but i need ceramic.......i play death metal only and i need the cold precision ceramic giver me ....... would painkiller give me the sound and the precision?

Yes.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: adamj on July 03, 2008, 05:52:54 PM

excuse the ignorance but is MM ceramic? think it is. either way i play in drop B in a mahogany giutar and its tight as hell and leg breakingly heavy

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: ericsabbath on July 03, 2008, 07:16:05 PM

i'd get a miracle man or a painkiller

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Transcend on July 03, 2008, 07:34:19 PM

Yeah id say miracle man.

Its tight as hell, aggressive and well its just awesome.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: jllozano on July 03, 2008, 09:00:55 PM

i am leaning towards ceramic nailbomb...... is that a cool option?

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Antag on July 03, 2008, 10:00:45 PM

Quote from: jllozano

i am leaning towards ceramic nailbomb...... is that a cool option?

I don't have a ceramic NB or a ceramic 'pig, but "i play death metal only" makes me think that the Ceramic 'Pig is the way to go...

Search for posts by Drac in the Players forum to see what I mean ;)

(as an aside, wasn't it Drac that first ordered a CWP?)

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: wintersun on July 03, 2008, 11:22:36 PM

Quote from: jllozano

i am leaning towards ceramic nailbomb...... is that a cool option?

Or you might wanna an alnico 8 version, like I have. Like a cross between alnico and ceramic.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Nolly on July 04, 2008, 02:36:13 AM

Painkiller.

If you want to retain clarity while downtuning loads, I'd stay away from ridiculous output pickups like the c-pig.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 04, 2008, 10:30:16 AM

Quote from: Nolly

Painkiller.

If you want to retain clarity while downtuning loads, I'd stay away from ridiculous output pickups like the c-pig.

Not so good buddy.

They all take it very well indeed.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Nolly on July 04, 2008, 01:46:36 PM

Quote from: MDV

Quote from: Nolly

Painkiller.

If you want to retain clarity while downtuning loads, I'd stay away from ridiculous output pickups like the c-pig.

Not so good buddy.

They all take it very well indeed.

I dunno man, when you downtune often, you invariably use heavy gauge strings. Lots of string mass in a very powerful field results in really "chainsaw-y" sound to my ears. Some people like that I guess.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Antag on July 04, 2008, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Nolly

Some people like that I guess.

Yeah, including people that "play only death metal" :)

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 04, 2008, 02:18:51 PM

You cant avoid that with PKs though. Its a property of the tuning/strings primarily and the PK still has it.

I have PKs, C-Pig/CS, Monster-MM (23k double screw pole)/Uber trills and an uber-sinner in C# and drop B with 11-62s and they are all plenty clear.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Nolly on July 04, 2008, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: MDV

You cant avoid that with PKs though. Its a property of the tuning/strings primarily and the PK still has it.

I have PKs, C-Pig/CS, Monster-MM (23k double screw pole)/Uber trills and an uber-sinner in C# and drop B with 11-62s and they are all plenty clear.

..Agree to disagree then mate? :)
Not that I dislike the C-pig (I've not grinned as hard in ages after trying the B6 with one, and will prob put one in my next B2), but I'd still stick with the PK recommendation for heavy downtuning.

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 04, 2008, 03:28:12 PM

Quote from: Nolly

Quote from: MDV

You cant avoid that with PKs though. Its a property of the tuning/strings primarily and the PK still has it.

I have PKs, C-Pig/CS, Monster-MM (23k double screw pole)/Uber trills and an uber-sinner in C# and drop B with 11-62s and they are all plenty clear.

..Agree to disagree then mate? :)
Not that I dislike the C-pig (I've not grinned as hard in ages after trying the B6 with one, and will prob put one in my next B2), but I'd still stick with the PK recommendation for heavy downtuning.

Fair enough  8)

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: Ratrod on July 04, 2008, 04:18:58 PM

Low tuned death metal = warpig.

Rythm player: Alnico V

Lead player: Ceramic

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: ericsabbath on July 04, 2008, 08:51:53 PM

Quote from: Ratrod

Rhythm player: Ceramic

Lead player: Alnico V

fixed :oops:

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: MDV on July 04, 2008, 10:07:23 PM

Quote from: Eric Hellstyle

Quote from: Ratrod

Rhythm player: Ceramic

Lead player: Alnico V

fixed :oops:

Agreed!

Title: what is better for low tuning in mahogany?
Post by: jllozano on July 04, 2008, 11:55:35 PM

well i agree also in the rythm-ceramic thing...... i have a c-pig in my other baritone and i love it..... but that is a basswood bari....this is a mahogany..... anyways i ordered already.....ceramic nailbomb lets see how that goes