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Title: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 06, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
Hi everyone,

Just looking for a little advice here. I bought my engl from Germany, so the kettle lead didn't/doesn't fit the wall socket. For the past couple of years, I've been using my marshall avt power supply/kettle lead, but i've sold that amp now (along with the lead). I'm currently using my valve junior power supply/kettle lead, but that means I can't use both amps at once (and means a lot of fiddling around changing plugs if i want to play the different amps).

I've been told by shop staff that any kettle lead will work... I was just wondering, is there such a thing as higher quality kettle leads (like there are with e.g. instrument cables)? I don't want to spoil the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar, but at the same time, if they're all the same (and won't affect tone or the chances of my amp exploding on me), I have an old computer kettle lead which isn't doing anything which'd save me the bother of having to run out to buy one.

Any advice appreciated, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: SG Thrasher on July 06, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
I'm pretty sure it's fine as long as the same fuse is in there, but wait for other replies before you do anything.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Dreichlift on July 06, 2008, 07:45:03 PM
Yep they're all the same, and as previously said make sure you have the right fuse.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: hunter on July 06, 2008, 07:52:02 PM

There are expensive ones, but it's bullshitee if you know with what quality of cables and connections electrics are wired in the house...
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Antag on July 06, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Yep, pretty much any IEC lead will do as long as the fuse is the right rating.

If in doubt you can pickup a sturdily built one for <£5 at Maplins (or whatever your local electicals store is).  Alternatively, go & buy a new kettle... :-)
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 06, 2008, 09:07:01 PM
Thanks guys, that's what I figured. :)
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: MDV on July 07, 2008, 02:11:28 PM
Oh noes!

High class, tone-full power cables?

Dont give Monster any ideas!

(They'll probably sue me for saying that

And that

And that

Better stop now, its gonna get expensive)
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: indysmith on July 07, 2008, 02:27:47 PM
You'll DEFINITELY need one of these
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2137
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: AndyR on July 07, 2008, 02:31:27 PM
How fast can it boil two pints of water?
Our kettle's getting a bit slow...
 :lol:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Will on July 07, 2008, 02:49:24 PM
Lol, a Monster cable advert for kettle leads would be just stupid
"You're kettle won't know whats hit it, it delivers cleaner electricity for the cleaner cup of tea"
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 07, 2008, 04:15:24 PM
hahahahahaha! :lol:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: gingataff on July 08, 2008, 01:24:59 AM
Any IEC type cord would work as long as it's long enough! But why not take the opportunity to try one of these? http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm)
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: SG Thrasher on July 08, 2008, 01:38:32 AM
I literally gasped. :lol:

 
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: hamfist on July 08, 2008, 07:10:21 AM
Any IEC type cord would work as long as it's long enough! But why not take the opportunity to try one of these? http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm)

I remember a thread on TGP about such power cables. The general consensus was that it was such a load of old baloney, as all the power has to pass through all sorts of wall cabling etc before getting to your equipment. It couldn't possibly make a difference having a high quality last metre or two.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Fikealox on July 08, 2008, 07:37:32 AM
Sixteen... hundred... pounds...  :|
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: MDV on July 08, 2008, 09:35:33 AM
Any IEC type cord would work as long as it's long enough! But why not take the opportunity to try one of these? http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm)

I remember a thread on TGP about such power cables. The general consensus was that it was such a load of old baloney, as all the power has to pass through all sorts of wall cabling etc before getting to your equipment. It couldn't possibly make a difference having a high quality last metre or two.

Exactly!

Its gone through dozens or hundreds of miles of cable already, and I'm pretty $%&#ing sure that that lot wasnt 1600 per metre.

Plus, I bet that IF, IF theres a difference, its $%&#ing marginal. Power cabling is big thick lengths of copper carrying a big fat signal of dumb simple sinusoidal AC.

Now, I did expect anyone would be dumb enough to try and make a high end power cable.

Mostly I didnt expect anyone would be dumb enough to buy it.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Kilby on July 08, 2008, 10:47:36 AM
Takes gullability to a new level dosn't it, a fool and his money are easily parted !

Still now you can get the full effect of your fridge strating up in the kitchen, a better quality of electrical interance
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 08, 2008, 03:44:25 PM
Any IEC type cord would work as long as it's long enough! But why not take the opportunity to try one of these? http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-The-Silver-Signature-PowerKord-1549.htm)

wow, i could buy that and save £200! it's down from £1800... bargain! :lol:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: gingataff on July 08, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
Exactly! It's a bargain (only if they had them in stock though), and for the nay-sayers who claim that it's a waste of time buying expensive mains leads because of shoddy house wiring, just get yourself some of this (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-Russ-Andrews-Superior-Ring-Main-1515.htm) and rewire your entire home :P
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Kilby on July 08, 2008, 04:29:00 PM
To quote "Your system will sound sweeter and more natural, rhythmic and musical."

More rhythmic Hmmm let me think !!!!!

More musical, let me think about that too, so if I wire my house with that Phil Collins, Jay Z & Paris Hilton will sound better !

Does anybody smell anything associated with the rear end of cattle ?
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 08, 2008, 09:27:31 PM
^ yeah, pretty much...

Exactly! It's a bargain (only if they had them in stock though), and for the nay-sayers who claim that it's a waste of time buying expensive mains leads because of shoddy house wiring, just get yourself some of this (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-Russ-Andrews-Superior-Ring-Main-1515.htm) and rewire your entire home :P

that can't be any good, it's only £37.80!
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: AndyR on July 08, 2008, 10:01:26 PM
^ yeah, pretty much...

Exactly! It's a bargain (only if they had them in stock though), and for the nay-sayers who claim that it's a waste of time buying expensive mains leads because of shoddy house wiring, just get yourself some of this (http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0835073908688JTNJTPYJHRZSZJVX/product-Russ-Andrews-Superior-Ring-Main-1515.htm) and rewire your entire home :P

that can't be any good, it's only £37.80!

Per metre!!! How many metres might you use replacing your ring-main wiring!!
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Philly Q on July 08, 2008, 10:01:49 PM
More musical, let me think about that too, so if I wire my house with that Phil Collins, Jay Z & Paris Hilton will sound better !

They will indeed - during the time between taking out the old wiring and putting the new wiring in.  :wink:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 08, 2008, 10:27:58 PM
You are all a bunch of Cynics. Mr Chu of Hong Kong thinks it is wonderful so it must be.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Philly Q on July 08, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
You are all a bunch of Cynics. Mr Chu of Hong Kong thinks it is wonderful so it must be.

Mr Chu also said:

"It's so smooth and silky that I joke to my friends that you can fantasize Sophie Marceau breathing into yours ears and her fingers running up and down your body."

... so he obviously already has a very active imagination.  But oooh, ....thanks for sharing that thought, Mr Chu.  :) :oops:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: gingataff on July 09, 2008, 02:22:34 AM
Presumably Mr. Chu likes to listen to Meshuggah.
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: MDV on July 09, 2008, 11:56:10 AM
Ah, the joys of psychoacoustics.

Yes, that term can apply both to percieving differences in sounds according to expectation and context (often based on price), AND meshuggah, but in completely different ways :D 
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 09, 2008, 03:35:57 PM

Per metre!!! How many metres might you use replacing your ring-main wiring!!


no idea! good point. Still, it does sound a little cheap anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: noodleplugerine on July 11, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
LEGENDARY Thread. The fact that luxury kettle leads actually exists - That's the icing on the cake, isn't it :P?
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: dave_mc on July 11, 2008, 03:57:27 PM
i know... i don't know what i started... it was actually a serious question at the beginning.

anyway, i took my epi's plug apart last night and it seems to have a 3 amp fuse... my old computer lead is 13... so i need to get a 3 amp fuse... (needless to say, we have loads of 13 amp fuses in the house, but no 3s...)

:lol:
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on July 11, 2008, 04:07:41 PM
Presumably Mr. Chu likes to listen to Meshuggah.

Maybe he just feels that he gets a better cup of tea using that kettle lead
Ty-Chu perhaps
Title: Re: Amp power supplies/kettle leads?
Post by: Philly Q on July 11, 2008, 09:11:02 PM
Presumably Mr. Chu likes to listen to Meshuggah.

Maybe he just feels that he gets a better cup of tea using that kettle lead
Ty-Chu perhaps

 :x Ouch!  :lol: