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Title: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: horsehead on July 15, 2008, 06:32:22 AM
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Ooh La La: Faces to reform?

The Faces keyboard player Ian McLagan has confirmed that rest of the band, including singer Rod Stewart and guitarist Ronnie Wood, are considering a reunion.

"We're hoping to get together later this year to play and then we may have some news, but I want it to happen, badly," he told BBC 6 Music.

McLagan said Stewart was the only member uncertain about reforming.

He doesn't need the money?

"Rod hasn't wanted to do it for a long time. He didn't see the need in it but I think he really wants to now. It's going to be great if it does happen," McLagan added.

The original Faces lineup comprised Stewart, Wood, Ian McLagan, Kenney Jones and the late Ronnie Lane.

They formed in 1969 and released four studio albums between 1970 and 1973.

I hope so, they were amazing & Ronnie Wood is vastly under-rated as a guitarist
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 15, 2008, 07:25:32 AM
It will be interesting.I am not sure if Rod is up to it. They'll miss Plonk though. I have offered my services to Mac but I think that the bass job is sewn up. This story has been going on for years. The Faces were a great great band and very under rated and, as you say, Ronnie Wood is too. His tasteful playing was a big influence on me.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: sgmypod on July 15, 2008, 09:01:39 AM
could be interesting ronnie is a great guitarist.....
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 15, 2008, 09:18:50 AM
My first reaction was YESSS!!  :D

But I think I have to agree with 38th - we'll miss Ronnie Lane (unless they give you job?), and young Rodney would be a slightly different front man now  :lol:
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: Philly Q on July 15, 2008, 11:01:52 AM
It would be quite cool to see Rod doing something other than the awful bland tripe he's done the last 10-15 years.

I think Ronnie might be pre-occupied with an 18 year old Russian girl and a few crates of vodka, though. :wink:




OK, sorry, I'm not saying this to wind anyone up, I may be in a minority of one, but I have to say it - I cannot stand Ronnie Wood.  I just can't see/hear what's so supposed to be so good about him.  I don't like his playing, his singing... I think he's extraordinarily lucky to have the career he's had. 

I saw him on the Jonathan Ross show a few years ago, playing a song off one of his solo albums with his son and daughter, and it was one of the most tuneless, shambolic things I've ever heard in my life... and then I kept hearing the same bloody song cropping up all over the place.  Arrgh!

Sorry, rant over.  :oops:

Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: horsehead on July 15, 2008, 01:15:14 PM
Philly, everyones entitles to their opinon. I personally think he's a cracking player, but I agree on his singing most of the times it is shambolic, but that's what gives such personality to the songs

anyway, Ronnie Wood & a Zematis guitar is an iconic image
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 15, 2008, 01:17:01 PM
I must admit, apart from Rod's unplugged thing a while back, I have to agree with Philly Q about Ron Wood - for almost everything since the Faces. I don't even think much of his paintings - sorry Ron...

For some reason though, I love his playing in the Faces. (Unless someone tells me that Ronnie Lane overdubbed all the guitar parts... and that there's no Father Christmas,  :o, etc, etc)

I don't know, mebbe it's something to do with being in a band with Mr Richards for so long? (I don't actually fancy his guitar playing too much either, but then he is KEITH RICHARDS, somehow he's up there with Muddy, Robert Johnson, etc, etc, and he's not even dead yet)(even if he looks like he is!!).

I saw a Stones video a few years back that included rehearsal footage - KR is obviously the boss, RW just seemed content to follow along in a stoned fashion. Has to be said though, they created a hell of a groove together. The funniest bit was when KR announced a song to rehearse, Mick Jagger went "Oh right" reaching for his guitar, and KR gave him a withering "And WTF do you think you're gonna do with that?", and MJ sheepishly did as he was told... that really surprised me...

I suspect that ever since he joined the Stones, Ron Wood hasn't really had to* progress in any shape or form, has spent a lot of the time semi-conscious... and that's the Ron Wood we're seeing now...

But in the Faces, he was fab  :D

EDIT: *or been allowed to
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: horsehead on July 15, 2008, 01:29:35 PM
I believe Keef (for he shall forever be known as) call's it 'an ancient form of weaving'. I like the idea ofthat & there's only been a few bands that have had that level of constitancy between players. Keef & Ronnie is one, Marc Ford & Rich Robinson is another, but when it works...WOW!
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 15, 2008, 01:40:50 PM
I believe Keef (for he shall forever be known as) call's it 'an ancient form of weaving'. I like the idea ofthat & there's only been a few bands that have had that level of constitancy between players. Keef & Ronnie is one, Marc Ford & Rich Robinson is another, but when it works...WOW!

Yeah, I'd buy that as well - and I've just remembered that I have a Keef solo album that I was very disappointed with, I've probably only relistened to it once since I first bought it in the week it came out (and that was just to check I didn't like it!) But together, they groove... "weaving", I like that, not heard it before... And you're right about the Ford/Robinson pairing (I can see another thread in this, fave 5 guitar pairings...)
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: sgmypod on July 15, 2008, 01:43:43 PM
yeah together they work well...not impressed with solo stuff..also after watching some vids of stones and black crows makes me gas for a duesenberg again
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: Philly Q on July 15, 2008, 02:49:17 PM
(I can see another thread in this, fave 5 guitar pairings...)

Bring it on!  :D

I've heard that "ancient form of weaving" phrase so many times, I wonder when he first said it?  :lol:  I guess there's truth in it, I've never seen the Stones but I have seen many a video of their shows.  I'm always amazed by how ragged they are, but to their credit they are very much a live band - you never get the feeling they're just going through the motions or that one show is just like any other.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 15, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
It would be quite cool to see Rod doing something other than the awful bland tripe he's done the last 10-15 years.

I think Ronnie might be pre-occupied with an 18 year old Russian girl and a few crates of vodka, though. :wink:




OK, sorry, I'm not saying this to wind anyone up, I may be in a minority of one, but I have to say it - I cannot stand Ronnie Wood.  I just can't see/hear what's so supposed to be so good about him.  I don't like his playing, his singing... I think he's extraordinarily lucky to have the career he's had. 

I saw him on the Jonathan Ross show a few years ago, playing a song off one of his solo albums with his son and daughter, and it was one of the most tuneless, shambolic things I've ever heard in my life... and then I kept hearing the same bloody song cropping up all over the place.  Arrgh!

Sorry, rant over.  :oops:



I saw that Jonathon Ross Show Philly and I too thought it was awful. I thought based on what I saw and heard that he wasn't that good on guitar but man I'm so wrong. He really is the bee's knees at it and he can play great slide and lap steel too. I think he was too pissed up to know what was going on, on that show!
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 15, 2008, 08:08:31 PM
Ronnie Wood is a great player given his day. I agree that his playing in the Stones is not a patch on his work with the Faces ( and no Ronnie Lane did not play those parts so you can relax). The  other "two Ronnies" (Wood & Lane) were a formidable pair and if people think that Richards/Woiod have something special then they seriously need to listen to Wood/Lane. It is a shame that Ronnie cannot seem to live without booze and with disastrous results. A pissed Ronnie Wood was funny in the Faces but is tragic now. His "singing" is not his strong point but his first  two solo albums were great. The faces though were one hell of a unit.It is difficult to reconcile the Rod Stewart of the Faces with the opparody that came out with "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy"  which, in spite of the intended irony, is twaddle. Ronnie Lane was a hero of mine. A great great songwriter-brilliant bass player and the heart and soul of the Faces. Mac & Kenney were the final bits of the jigsaw. Check the clips of the on Youtube and try not to smile at the sheer fun and good humour of it all.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2008, 08:42:50 AM
Ronnie Wood is a great player given his day. I agree that his playing in the Stones is not a patch on his work with the Faces ( and no Ronnie Lane did not play those parts so you can relax). The  other "two Ronnies" (Wood & Lane) were a formidable pair and if people think that Richards/Woiod have something special then they seriously need to listen to Wood/Lane. It is a shame that Ronnie cannot seem to live without booze and with disastrous results. A pissed Ronnie Wood was funny in the Faces but is tragic now. His "singing" is not his strong point but his first  two solo albums were great. The faces though were one hell of a unit.It is difficult to reconcile the Rod Stewart of the Faces with the opparody that came out with "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy"  which, in spite of the intended irony, is twaddle. Ronnie Lane was a hero of mine. A great great songwriter-brilliant bass player and the heart and soul of the Faces. Mac & Kenney were the final bits of the jigsaw. Check the clips of the on Youtube and try not to smile at the sheer fun and good humour of it all.

+1 on every bit of that, except(!) I have to admit that I thought "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" was a superb single :roll: :D
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: Philly Q on July 16, 2008, 08:57:10 AM
+1 on every bit of that, except(!) I have to admit that I thought "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" was a superb single :roll: :D

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!     :o

Although I must admit it was infinitely better than "Young Turks" and "Baby Jane".......
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2008, 12:37:48 PM
+1 on every bit of that, except(!) I have to admit that I thought "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" was a superb single :roll: :D

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!     :o

Although I must admit it was infinitely better than "Young Turks" and "Baby Jane".......

Must be my pop-sensibilities coming out!
Also my 6th form memories, wot I wos listening to in the charts when I was so hung up over Miss EMD - head girl of a neighbouring skool - never ever forgotten her...

It's right up there with Miss You, Airport, Run For Home, How Deep Is Your Love, My Sharona, Motorhead's Golden Years EP, and other late 70's classics!!

I feel NO shame, sorry chaps...

You have to give the Faces another listen though Philly - Pool Hall Richard, Had Me a Real Good Time, Flying, Sweet Lady Mary, etc... I had a session with them last night - doesn't change my opinion of what Mr Wood seems like now, but it reminded me that he is indeed worthy of my admiration :D

EDIT: and Man With A Child In His Eyes - sigh, she looked like Kate Bush but even slimmer, and with freckles. And she could sing, and play guitar!! In fact we even did duo gigs together (Leaving on a Jet Plane, anyone??! :roll:)
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: Philly Q on July 16, 2008, 03:01:51 PM
OK, I shall try to get hold of a Faces "best of" and try not to think of Ronnie's wizened little monkey face when I'm listening to it....  :wink:

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It's right up there with Miss You, Airport, Run For Home, How Deep Is Your Love, My Sharona, Motorhead's Golden Years EP, and other late 70's classics!!

For some reason I have particularly strong memories of the charts circa 1977-78 - things like Boogie Nights by Heatwave, Black Betty by Ram Jam, Davy's On The Road Again by Manfred Mann's Earth Band....  :lol:  I suppose it was right around the time I started buying records myself.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: horsehead on July 16, 2008, 08:51:33 PM
Not that I would ever link to something illegal...no never...uh-no...not me guvnor...couldn't do it... (http://"http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/40481697/the+faces?tab=summary")cos it's not right etc. etc.


Oh & Andy have you got hold of 5 guys walk into a bar, absolutely stunning how good that band were!

& for the record Debris is an amazing song
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 16, 2008, 09:40:50 PM
I would just like to point out that my appalling typing in the last post was due to my being similarly afflicted to Ronnie Wood coupled with a rapidly failing keyboard (now replaced).
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: horsehead on July 16, 2008, 09:48:46 PM
any excuse 38 :lol:
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 16, 2008, 11:29:57 PM
I was amazed that any of it made sense ...and relieved. It was a tough day!
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 17, 2008, 08:44:23 AM
+1 on Debris - I was studying it last night!

I've not got 5 men... (not even heard of it before!) I bought Good Boys... when it came out because I didn't have anything on CD (and in fact, on vinyl, I've only got an early "best of" double album and the slightly "harder-to-listen-to" live album).

5 men... looks very tasty, but I'd already made an executive decision last night that our household must now acquire all 4 studio albums, and the early Rod albums, on CD before we do anything else  :lol:
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 17, 2008, 07:11:54 PM
Debris is a masterpiece.Those chords ! and of course  Ronnie's poignant delivery. He was a major influence on me and as I once got to meet him I regard him as one of the best that this country has  produced. Get the Faces studio albums and the early Rod albums( with the Faces playing on them in many cases) and you will have a great collection of early 1970's music at its best. But the "Five Guys..." set adds unreleased, alternative and live tracks and whiolst you at it, get the Ronnie Lane solo albums. I used to get vilified at school for being a Faces  and Free fan when it was required that you were either a Led Zeppelin or a Deep Purple fan ( I also liked them both but for different reasons) but I never worried about what other people thought and I think that my tastes  at 11 years old have been vindicated. It was Ronnie Lane's bass playing particularly on Stay With Me that made me take up guitar and bas. I learned from listening and emulating what he did. Mr McCartney helped it bit too mind ( can I say that?). 
 
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 18, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
Mr McCartney helped it bit too mind ( can I say that?). 
 

You certainly can as far as I'm concerned :D
He got quite a slagging here a while back, but I kept thinking "have any of you listened to the early Beatles albums?? OK mebbe not quite to your taste guys, but listen to, for example, All My Loving - he played that bass part, and sang that lead vocal, with all that swing, AT THE SAME TIME!!"
(OK the vocal is double-tracked, but one of those tracks he would have had to lay down at the same time as the bass... Or you could try and get hold of Live at the Hollywood Bowl - that really shows what those four guys could do...)

But back to Ronnie Lane - I found the Faces sometime in the 80s, and I was more interested in the Ron Wood and Rod Stewart side of things. But over the years (and getting into the Small Faces helped) I've started to appreciate Ronnie Lane's contribution a lot more.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 18, 2008, 06:27:54 PM
Funny you mention All My Loving. I learned to play the bass and sing it when I was a wee lad. Enabled me to move on from there to handle more vocals as a bassist. It can be an issue because of the rhythmic element. Having done both, playing bass and singing is harder (imho) than playing guitar and singing-the latter being something I am about to go and do cos I have a gig to go to.
Faces and Small Faces where great great bands.
Title: Re: One of my favourite bands are re-forming!
Post by: AndyR on July 18, 2008, 06:43:48 PM
Funny you mention All My Loving. I learned to play the bass and sing it when I was a wee lad. Enabled me to move on from there to handle more vocals as a bassist. It can be an issue because of the rhythmic element. Having done both, playing bass and singing is harder (imho) than playing guitar and singing-the latter being something I am about to go and do cos I have a gig to go to.
Faces and Small Faces where great great bands.

Yep, bass & vox is far harder than git & vox. I was the latter (lead vocals) in a band with two guitars and once we had to do a gig where the bassist couldn't make it. I'd spent a few years playing bass previously, and I'd written all the songs, so it seemed a no-brainer... WHAT A NIGHTMARE that preceding week was!! (I eventually conquered it by listening to The Police - Sting seems to put bass on auto-pilot while he sings...)

NEway, have a good gig! (We're about to get the take-away and put a DVD on...)