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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: phlip on July 18, 2008, 07:20:15 AM

Title: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 18, 2008, 07:20:15 AM
And you weren't buying another BKP waht would you buy guitar related and why?

Yes I have got some money burning a hole in my pocket   :D
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: mikeluke on July 18, 2008, 08:14:26 AM
Blackstar Dual
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Twinfan on July 18, 2008, 08:34:54 AM
Probably a Rothwell booster pedal of some sort.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 18, 2008, 09:20:13 AM
Dual YUM  :D
Got one already :0) (Which covers the need for a Booster too :0)

Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: indysmith on July 18, 2008, 10:06:03 AM
a Mule
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: sgmypod on July 18, 2008, 10:29:05 AM
Prob a BYOC Tscreamer or similar
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: badgermark on July 18, 2008, 10:34:24 AM
this probably (http://guitarguitar.co.uk/search_detail.asp?stock=04061713564628&page=search&search=sg&offset=&order=&BrandName=). I'm a sucker for white and black guitars, and an alder sg can't be a bad thing.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 18, 2008, 10:37:27 AM
A Korg Pitchblack tuner pedal.

And I'd spend the change on some TonePros parts or maybe a set of Gotoh locking tuners.  Never hurts to have some spares.

(Or alternatively I might put it towards a Roland Cube 30X)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MrBump on July 18, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
A Korg Pitchblack tuner pedal.

And I'd spend the change on some TonePros parts or maybe a set of Gotoh locking tuners.  Never hurts to have some spares.

(Or alternatively I might put it towards a Roland Cube 30X)

I saw that in Guitarist - looks really mean!  Think that I will get myself one...
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 18, 2008, 02:01:59 PM
Ah a Pedal tuner would be very useful. So a Pitch Black is on the list.
I've added a EMU 1 in 1 out Midi interface to make working with the POD easier.

30 quid to go.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Fikealox on July 18, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
I'd get a Keeley Compressor :)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: HTH AMPS on July 18, 2008, 02:12:01 PM
NOS valves, no question. 
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: gwEm on July 18, 2008, 03:03:04 PM
maybe a sansamp character british
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MDV on July 18, 2008, 04:03:23 PM
Probably a good compressor, maybe a good tuner. A signal splitter may be on the list somewhere.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: NotSoEasy on July 18, 2008, 04:07:25 PM
I'd go for a Mi Audio Crunchbox and a pedal tuner of some variety  :)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MrBump on July 18, 2008, 04:53:54 PM
There's a lady at the end of my road who will do pretty much ANYTHING for you for £120...

Oh, right!  Guitar related...
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Roobubba on July 18, 2008, 05:05:26 PM
not that sort of burning hole, MrBump!
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 18, 2008, 05:09:40 PM
I'd be getting a BB  preamp.

In fact I will be getting one just as soon as I sell my HT Dual which has proved not to be a keeper!
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Twinfan on July 18, 2008, 08:40:49 PM
I'd be getting a BB  preamp.

In fact I will be getting one just as soon as I sell my HT Dual which has proved not to be a keeper!

That's exactly what I did - moved from an HT Dual to a BB Preamp and a Maxon OD-9  :D
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: sambo on July 18, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
I'd be getting a BB  preamp.

In fact I will be getting one just as soon as I sell my HT Dual which has proved not to be a keeper!

What's this BB Preamp?

That's exactly what I did - moved from an HT Dual to a BB Preamp and a Maxon OD-9  :D
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Twinfan on July 18, 2008, 09:03:52 PM
The Xotic Effects BB Preamp  :)

http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/tremTrio/
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 18, 2008, 09:26:48 PM
I've noticed quite a few people falling out of love with Blackstar pedals.  Is there a hint of Emperor's New Clothes about them?
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MDV on July 18, 2008, 09:30:12 PM
Personally, after getting my JD10, I havent looked sideways at another OD/Distortion
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Post by: dave_mc on July 18, 2008, 09:40:24 PM
^ JD10?

i'm not quite sure what i'd do with £120 to be honest.
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Post by: Philly Q on July 18, 2008, 09:42:48 PM
Is that the Award-Session JD10 (JD as in Jerry Donahue)?  Does it handle your metal stuff Mark?
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MDV on July 18, 2008, 09:51:48 PM
Is that the Award-Session JD10 (JD as in Jerry Donahue)?  Does it handle your metal stuff Mark?

Yes it is

and

Yes it does!

My only complaint is its not as surgically tight as i normally like, but I think thats more to do with the fact I ran it through my TSL in initial testing than the pedal.

I lent it to my mums guitarist (a blues/blues rock/country man of 40 years playing- amazing guitarist) and he loves it for that, too.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 18, 2008, 10:53:37 PM
I'd be getting a BB  preamp.

In fact I will be getting one just as soon as I sell my HT Dual which has proved not to be a keeper!

That's exactly what I did - moved from an HT Dual to a BB Preamp and a Maxon OD-9  :D

And do you prefer the BB Twinfan?  When I bought the blackstar I tried the BB plus and it blew me away, but it was £60 more than the Dual and to be fair the dual sounded pretty good.  But I've been recording and noticed a kind of - for want of a better word - plasticy thing on the attack when it's nearly set clean that I blamed on the mic pre's of my multitrack.  But now I notice it all the time.  It just seems to mess the note attack when clean and colour the tone too much on higher gain settings.

So anyway I might keep my Barber LTD and by a BB or sell the Dual and the Barber and get the BB plus.  Either because it's best for the tone I want, or because I have serious pedal related mental issues, depends how you look at it  :D


Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: sambo on July 18, 2008, 11:07:55 PM
The Xotic Effects BB Preamp  :)

http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/tremTrio/


Cheers, well done for finding my question :lol: :oops:
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Oli on July 18, 2008, 11:22:28 PM
Well, i don't have a tuner (have to use my pod), so i'd get a TU-2. And put the rest towards a D*A*M fuzz, proabably the Meathead :)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Doppleganger on July 19, 2008, 04:35:09 AM
After doing the currency conversion(American. :(), I'd say I'd combine it with a bit more and get an Electro Harmonix POG. Those things look really fun to mess about with!
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 19, 2008, 08:34:48 AM
I've noticed quite a few people falling out of love with Blackstar pedals.  Is there a hint of Emperor's New Clothes about them?

Not for me, I Like my HT-Dual a lot it's very versatile and works nicely on it's own throught the emulated out and even Makes my (Form Home practice) POD sound dynamic.

I'm sure there is better out there but I'm happy.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Plexi Ken on July 19, 2008, 01:00:21 PM
An Electro Harmonix Micro Pog can be got for around £120-ish.
You can hear one here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNksldktvHE

It'll be my next purchase... maybe next month.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 19, 2008, 01:12:03 PM
An Electro Harmonix Micro Pog can be got for around £120-ish.
You can hear one here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNksldktvHE

It'll be my next purchase... maybe next month.

That is awesome.  The equipment promo video as Art!  :D
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: dave_mc on July 19, 2008, 01:33:16 PM
Is that the Award-Session JD10 (JD as in Jerry Donahue)?  Does it handle your metal stuff Mark?

ah thanks philly (and mark). :)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Twinfan on July 19, 2008, 02:23:32 PM
I've noticed quite a few people falling out of love with Blackstar pedals.  Is there a hint of Emperor's New Clothes about them?

And do you prefer the BB Twinfan?  When I bought the blackstar I tried the BB plus and it blew me away, but it was £60 more than the Dual and to be fair the dual sounded pretty good.  But I've been recording and noticed a kind of - for want of a better word - plasticy thing on the attack when it's nearly set clean that I blamed on the mic pre's of my multitrack.  But now I notice it all the time.  It just seems to mess the note attack when clean and colour the tone too much on higher gain settings.

I found exactly what Tom did.  The Dual sounded great for me at first, I loved it.  Then I started to notice its heavy colouration on everything.  I noticed it most when I went to see MartinW playing at a gig.  He was using a Dual too and he sounded like I did, even when using a completely different guitar and amp  :?

Switching to the BB, with a Tubescreamer to boost it, I can get the same flexibility without the fixed Blackstar 'tone'.  It works much better for me as I like to switch guitars and let their tone come through.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Antag on July 19, 2008, 02:44:56 PM
FWIW, I'd never spend £120 (or any amount) just for the sake of it.  Right now, all the things I really want cost more than that, so I'd put the £120 in "The Fund".
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: dave_mc on July 19, 2008, 03:05:18 PM
^ yeah, i'm the same. buying something solely because you have the money for it is just asking to buy something which you don't really want or need, and which you'll probably end up having to sell on for a loss later...

:)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 19, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
^ yeah, i'm the same. buying something solely because you have the money for it is just asking to buy something which you don't really want or need, and which you'll probably end up having to sell on for a loss later...

And there you have the story of my life...  :wink:
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: dave_mc on July 19, 2008, 05:32:43 PM
beats my story. i just never get round to buying anything. :lol: i've seen people expend less thought on buying a new house than i do on whether or not i should buy a CD album... :lol:
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 19, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
I didn't have any money burning a hole, in fact I did my usual trick of justifying the purchase by getting it against a future sale of something else, but I bougt this for £130

http://www.dv247.com/invt/37629/product.htm?gdftrk=gdfV2356_a_7c416_a_7c1181_a_7c37629

It came yesterday, after a good setup it's a great little guitar, excellent value for money considering it has a solid top....
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: ESPImperium on July 19, 2008, 11:09:08 PM
MXR GT-OD and a MI Audio Chrunchbox or a MXR Carbon Copy Delay.

Maybes id just put it toward the Les Paul fund that i have going at the moment.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Will on July 20, 2008, 02:01:12 AM
MXR GT-OD and a MI Audio Chrunchbox or a MXR Carbon Copy Delay.

GT OD is quite nice, has gain on tap, but the simple boost is very nice and transparent for a mass produced product
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: MrBump on July 20, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
Never really see the BB or BB+, but check this out - it's a really indepth clip of the +:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VKdjQsGD754&feature=related (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VKdjQsGD754&feature=related)

Mark.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: martinw on July 20, 2008, 11:05:34 AM
I've noticed quite a few people falling out of love with Blackstar pedals.  Is there a hint of Emperor's New Clothes about them?

And do you prefer the BB Twinfan?  When I bought the blackstar I tried the BB plus and it blew me away, but it was £60 more than the Dual and to be fair the dual sounded pretty good.  But I've been recording and noticed a kind of - for want of a better word - plasticy thing on the attack when it's nearly set clean that I blamed on the mic pre's of my multitrack.  But now I notice it all the time.  It just seems to mess the note attack when clean and colour the tone too much on higher gain settings.

I found exactly what Tom did.  The Dual sounded great for me at first, I loved it.  Then I started to notice its heavy colouration on everything.  I noticed it most when I went to see MartinW playing at a gig.  He was using a Dual too and he sounded like I did, even when using a completely different guitar and amp  :?


I've just sold mine and am using a Visual Sound Jeckyll and Hyde....much better (for me).
As Dave said, it's a great sound, but more of a complete preamp than a pedal, and totally dominates your rig and guitar set up.
Their slogan is: "The sound in your head", whereas it should be: "The sound in OUR head. You will be assimilated!"
 :lol:
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 20, 2008, 11:10:23 AM
I've just sold mine and am using a Visual Sound Jeckyll and Hyde....much better (for me).
As Dave said, it's a great sound, but more of a complete preamp than a pedal, and totally dominates your rig and guitar set up.
Their slogan is: "The sound in your head", whereas it should be: "The sound in OUR head. You will be assimilated!"

Nice to see someone mentioning Visual Sound... I thought they weren't boo-teeky enough to be viewed as cool.  8) :roll:

I have the Route 66 and H2O, and they sound good to me, but I'm pretty ignorant about the pedal world.
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Post by: ToonLP on July 20, 2008, 11:20:38 AM
£120 is just enough for a Fulltone OCD pedal............. the best £119.99 you'll ever spend
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Post by: martinw on July 20, 2008, 12:22:01 PM

Nice to see someone mentioning Visual Sound... I thought they weren't boo-teeky enough to be viewed as cool.  8) :roll:

I have the Route 66 and H2O, and they sound good to me, but I'm pretty ignorant about the pedal world.

 :) yes, I a/b'd the J&H in Sounds great with all the stuff they had in, which included a lot of top money, booteek stuff, and it was easily the best Tubescreamer clone, with the added bass boost, and the bonus of a complete extra pedal (the Hyde distortion side) for the same money.
I've also had a Route 66 and that was a top pedal too.
if I could afford it i would get one of the new Liquid chorus pedals to replace my Boss.

Great company too; always answer emails quickly and sent me some new footswitches FOC!
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 20, 2008, 12:41:40 PM

Nice to see someone mentioning Visual Sound... I thought they weren't boo-teeky enough to be viewed as cool.  8) :roll:

I have the Route 66 and H2O, and they sound good to me, but I'm pretty ignorant about the pedal world.

 :) yes, I a/b'd the J&H in Sounds great with all the stuff they had in, which included a lot of top money, booteek stuff, and it was easily the best Tubescreamer clone, with the added bass boost, and the bonus of a complete extra pedal (the Hyde distortion side) for the same money.
I've also had a Route 66 and that was a top pedal too.
if I could afford it i would get one of the new Liquid chorus pedals to replace my Boss.

Great company too; always answer emails quickly and sent me some new footswitches FOC!

Excellent, nice to see some Visual Sound love on here!  :D

I like the way they keep their range relatively uncomplicated and don't try to do everything - the overdrives in the J&H, Route 66, Double Trouble and Route 808 are all the same overdrive.  And the Liquid Chorus is the same as the chorus in the H2O (but with the bonus of stereo).  And they make those things clear rather than trying to con you into buying pedals you don't need. 

The V2 pedals are great bargains, although the stand-alone pedals seem a bit pricey in comparison - but I'm still planning to get the Angry Fuzz.

Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 20, 2008, 03:29:05 PM
I have a Jekyll & Hyde too. Got it for £45.00 off Ebay. Well worth it!Disregarding what I paid, I think it is a quality pedal and I use mainly the Jekyll side with settings low.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 20, 2008, 10:49:48 PM
I know I started the bad press for the HT Dual but I've decided to stick up for it now for the following reason.

If you have a bad sounding or average amp, or even a great amp that you want to sound totally different, the the HT Dual is a very versatile and powerful pedal, with great valve clean, crunch and distortion sounds.
It also sounds good out the emulated output into a PC, so in a way it's not competing with the Exotic and Visual Sound Stuff, it is a preamp that works for a number off applications. 

But for me, I want 1 or 2 boxes that add different levels of gain to my existing sound without changing it too much.
I'll probably go back to transistor pedals, not because they sound better, just because they interact better with a valve amp.  If I had the pedalboard space, an extra socket for the AC supply, and enough money, I would keep the Dual and I can see why people love it. 

Yes it does stamp it's sound over you but at least it's a good sound.  So I'll be giving it a thumbs up as I sell it!!!
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 20, 2008, 10:51:52 PM
I forgot to mention that the dual concentric pots are rubbish and the ISF control is a load of bollocks......
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Philly Q on July 20, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
Yes it does stamp it's sound over you but at least it's a good sound.  So I'll be giving it a thumbs up as I sell it!!!

Thumbs up!  :D

Quote from: tomjackson
I forgot to mention that the dual concentric pots are rubbish and the ISF control is a load of bollocks......

Thumbs down.  :(

Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Modular1 on July 20, 2008, 11:55:35 PM
I know I started the bad press for the HT Dual but I've decided to stick up for it now for the following reason.

If you have a bad sounding or average amp, or even a great amp that you want to sound totally different, the the HT Dual is a very versatile and powerful pedal, with great valve clean, crunch and distortion sounds.
It also sounds good out the emulated output into a PC, so in a way it's not competing with the Exotic and Visual Sound Stuff, it is a preamp that works for a number off applications. 


Yes it does stamp it's sound over you but at least it's a good sound.  So I'll be giving it a thumbs up as I sell it!!!


i can second that. its a very nice pedal to own, if like i do, you want a bump into tube tone for a lesser amp. Firstly i used mine into a marshall 30dfx amp using the clean channel on the amp. It was the best that amp ever sounded. I now use it into a fender champion 600. It sounds good through that too. I can see what people say about it having its 'own tone' though.

Id like a new marshall valve amp but they are all so $%&#ing loud. Id happily pay the same price as a 50w marshall if they just made it as a 5w version. I know im gonna end up getting a bigger amp one day and just not getting the best out of it.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: Doadman on July 21, 2008, 12:39:17 AM
What I'd Buy

Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Mayhem

Why I'd buy it

Until I can afford a Prestige RGT, my guitar is perfect, it has the perfect pups in it and I've just bought a really good amp but despite 3 channels, it still doesn't go far enough with the gain it offers. The Twin Tube Mayhem looks to be a fantastic pedal that offers gain at all levels with great tone and will be mine as soon as I have the £125 I need burning that hole in my pocket.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 21, 2008, 09:12:44 AM
I forgot to mention that the dual concentric pots are rubbish and the ISF control is a load of bollocks......

Agreed on the Dual Pots, I however find the ISF control rather good. It's just another tone shaping tool after all and unlike the co0ntrols on some pedals it does actually make a difference.
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: tomjackson on July 21, 2008, 09:32:59 AM
I forgot to mention that the dual concentric pots are rubbish and the ISF control is a load of bollocks......

Agreed on the Dual Pots, I however find the ISF control rather good. It's just another tone shaping tool after all and unlike the co0ntrols on some pedals it does actually make a difference.

Yeah I guess so, It's more the name of it that I'm not getting.  I'm not a tweaker though, I only like to use volume, tone and gain so it probably says more about me than anything.  Too many buttons confuse me!

The Dual channel option is great though, any other pedal I get I think will have to have that.....
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: phlip on July 21, 2008, 10:41:24 AM
What I'd Buy

Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Mayhem

Why I'd buy it

Until I can afford a Prestige RGT, my guitar is perfect, it has the perfect pups in it and I've just bought a really good amp but despite 3 channels, it still doesn't go far enough with the gain it offers. The Twin Tube Mayhem looks to be a fantastic pedal that offers gain at all levels with great tone and will be mine as soon as I have the £125 I need burning that hole in my pocket.

OOO That looks and sounds nice, Can a man have too many Distortion/overdrive pedals.
Of course not  :D
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: AndyR on July 21, 2008, 06:14:01 PM
I think I might have found what my "theoretical" £120 would go on:

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13543.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13543.0)

(assuming this doesn't count as "another BKP" in the original question :lol:)
Title: Re: If you had £120 burning a hole?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on July 21, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
Probably an MXR Chorus.