Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: AdamB on July 19, 2008, 05:43:40 PM
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So, i think that i might be getting a new cab.
I have at the moment an angled Mesa 4 x 12 with v30's. I love the sound, but believe i can get a slightly better sound from a straight cab. And i want something to match my Egnater head colour wise
I still want v30's, but like i said, i want a straight cab this time. Now the options are -
Bogner 4 x 12 - which actually looks quite similar to the Egnater, both in font of the logo and you can get it in the same colour, roughly £800
Matamp 4 x 12 - Custom build, and super solid construction, but will look quite a bit different from the head even though i can get the colours the same, roughly £600
Egnater 4 x 12 - Custom build, pretty much exactly the same spec as mesa too. Only thing is, shipping costs is going to be mental. Probably about £800 including delivery
Opinions please! Or other options, i'm all ears :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/adammato/Gear/IMG_0988.jpg)
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Get an Orange 4x12 the best sounding 4x12 by far. PDT_002
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Get an Orange 4x12 the best sounding 4x12 by far. PDT_002
+1.
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Best I ever heard was a Bogner straight 4x12. It is punchy, tight yet resonant, woody. One day I'll have to get one...
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Orange sound good yes, but this is more of a cosmetic thing, so oranges are out of the question sorry
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Orange sound good yes, but this is more of a cosmetic thing, so oranges are out of the question sorry
Get a black orange.
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I want a cream coloured cab
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So, i think that i might be getting a new cab.
I have at the moment an angled Mesa 4 x 12 with v30's. I love the sound, but believe i can get a slightly better sound from a straight cab. And i want something to match my Egnater head colour wise
I still want v30's, but like i said, i want a straight cab this time. Now the options are -
Bogner 4 x 12 - which actually looks quite similar to the Egnater, both in font of the logo and you can get it in the same colour, roughly £800
Matamp 4 x 12 - Custom build, and super solid construction, but will look quite a bit different from the head even though i can get the colours the same, roughly £600
Egnater 4 x 12 - Custom build, pretty much exactly the same spec as mesa too. Only thing is, shipping costs is going to be mental. Probably about £800 including delivery
Opinions please! Or other options, i'm all ears :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/adammato/Gear/IMG_0988.jpg)
You must be all ears if you can hear the difference between an angled and Straight cab!!
But then again, I am a combo guy :D
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The Bogner 412's are supposedly utterly superb. If you can get one in the colour you want I'd go for Bogner. It's potential % resale value would also probably be the best of the three you mention.
Matamp build quality is good, although make sure that any Matamp cab is to the size that you want. The Bogner and Orange's 4x12 success is a lot down to sheer size. Matamp are a bit reticent at publishing their cab sizes on their website.
As a fourth option, reconsider the Orange 412, and then getting it re-tolexed in your preference colour - might work out cheaper than the Bogner.
All in all it's a tough choice. The truth is that you would probably be pleased with any of those cabs.
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Another option is my Martamp 4x12, as seen in Twinfan's avatar.
Identical to the Matamp one, except for the picture frame front. Mine have the standard front.
£520 delivered to Manchester, and a choice of colours,grillcloth and piping.
Feet, castors or skids.
Corners in gold, black, silver or none.
Cheers! :)
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Zilla cabs have a sale on at the moment
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Thanks everyone :D
Having trouble finding a bogner 4x12 on the net at the moment as it all seems to be the line6/bogner stuff
I will look at martamp stuff today, thanks Martin.
Any link for the Zilla Cabs?
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Adam - if you're still in Manchester let me know if you want to try my Martamp 4x12. I've got two V30s and two G12Hs in it :)
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Any link for the Zilla Cabs?
http://www.myspace.com/zilla_music
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^ I remember reading about a couple people complaining about zilla cabs. I was going to get a spare 1x12 but then I bailed out.
I should think Martin / Matamp is the way to go esp given the price and complete choice of covering tolex etc!
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Adam - if you're still in Manchester let me know if you want to try my Martamp 4x12. I've got two V30s and two G12Hs in it :)
Thanks man! I've got a hectic schedule at the moment, but may well take you up on that :D
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Found some bogner cabs too, yep, £800
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^ I remember reading about a couple people complaining about zilla cabs. I was going to get a spare 1x12 but then I bailed out.
I should think Martin / Matamp is the way to go esp given the price and complete choice of covering tolex etc!
What did they have to complain about with Zilla cabs?
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Reading some reviews and talking to a mate, is selling me on the orange cab!
Sounds Great have one in, in black too, might have to get it!
What a good company to get stuff re covered in a different colour?
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Why buy the Orange to then recover it????? :?
I'd buy a Matamp or Martamp in the colour you want. You'll get a cab of the same size and quality!
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Are they the same size AND quality?
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Yes.
Recovering a cab is a pig of a job by the way...
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Sweet! I'll give matamp a cll then
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Called them!
Can get a black 4 x 12 with salt and pepper grill, v30's, £450!!!!!!
$%&#ing bargain
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F*ck that's cheap! :o
That'll be a bit like mine ;)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/4x12.jpg)
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That's crazy! It'll be exactly like yours! Except maybe with a picture frame front, retro is it?
Jeff said he had a black one in the stock room or something
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F*ck that's cheap! :o
Yes. Suspiciously so.
Exactly the same price as the Mini 4x12. Wonder if there's been a mix up? :?
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I'll double check Martin
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Another shout for bogner here
I got an Uberkab for my powerball. Because it made all the other cabs I've ever heard sound like sloppy, thin, depthless toys.
Granted I havent heard all that many, but were talking 1960A, 5150-whateverthestockcabis, engl V60, mesa slanted V30 loaded and a couple of others.
Never heard, but would really really like to -
Vader cabs.
VHT Big Bottom (or fat bottom, whatever its called)
I'd be really suprised if they're better (for metal) than the bogner, though.
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Another shout for bogner here
I got an Uberkab for my powerball. Because it made all the other cabs I've ever heard sound like sloppy, thin, depthless toys.
Granted I havent heard all that many, but were talking 1960A, 5150-whateverthestockcabis, engl V60, mesa slanted V30 loaded and a couple of others.
Never heard, but would really really like to -
Vader cabs.
VHT Big Bottom (or fat bottom, whatever its called)
I'd be really suprised if they're better (for metal) than the bogner, though.
How do you feel the Bogners compare to the Orange cabs?
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Another shout for bogner here
I got an Uberkab for my powerball. Because it made all the other cabs I've ever heard sound like sloppy, thin, depthless toys.
Granted I havent heard all that many, but were talking 1960A, 5150-whateverthestockcabis, engl V60, mesa slanted V30 loaded and a couple of others.
Never heard, but would really really like to -
Vader cabs.
VHT Big Bottom (or fat bottom, whatever its called)
I'd be really suprised if they're better (for metal) than the bogner, though.
How do you feel the Bogners compare to the Orange cabs?
Never played through one.
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I'll double check Martin
Double checked! The price is right for a full sized (retro cab), because i'm picking it up from them personally i get 10% off i think
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I'll double check Martin
Double checked! The price is right for a full sized (retro cab), because i'm picking it up from them personally i get 10% off i think
Nice. That'll do you very well I'm sure.
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....because i'm picking it up from them personally i get 10% off i think
:? Eh!? :shock:
In light of this I think I will be adjusting my prices in the near future.
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In light of this I think I will be adjusting my prices in the near future.
Time to buy: now? or after change? :)
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Sorry about this Martin. Seems like i'm single handedly bringing you down
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I'm now thinking v30's, G12T75's in an X shape
Options......
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I've spoken to Jeff this morning and found out what happened.
I was right; he had quoted you the compact 4x12 price by mistake, but having realised this is prepared to honour it, being as we have a 4x12 assembled in the showroom and ready (apart from speakers).
The website and price list are a bit confusing! :?
So, you've dropped lucky Adam! 8)
Will, I'm going to drop my prices a small amount , with effect from this afternoon, for the 2x12 and 4x12. The 1x12 doesn't have the margin. Buy now please! :D
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I'm now thinking v30's, G12T75's in an X shape
Options......
Cant fault that. Fantastic config. Tonnes of tight low end, good low extension, clear mids and sharp highs.
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I've spoken to Jeff this morning and found out what happened.
I was right; he had quoted you the compact 4x12 price by mistake, but having realised this is prepared to honour it, being as we have a 4x12 assembled in the showroom and ready (apart from speakers).
The website and price list are a bit confusing! :?
So, you've dropped lucky Adam! 8)
I even double checked, haha! Jeff!
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Will, I'm going to drop my prices a small amount , with effect from this afternoon, for the 2x12 and 4x12. The 1x12 doesn't have the margin. Buy now please! :D
Drop them by how much, Martin? :)
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Not sure yet. Will get back to you.
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Here it is...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/adammato/Gear/IMG_1334.jpg)
2 v30's, 2 hot 100's in an X pattern. Can't wait to try it at proper volumes at practice! I hope i like it, haha!
If not, Jeff said he will just put another 2 v30's in, instead of the hot 100's, legend!
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NIIIIIICE :)
Roo
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What's going on with the tolex bubbling up? Thats not their usual standard....
Other than that looks sweet.
I'd prefer to see it in GREEN though... :twisted:
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What happened to the cream needs?
Looks great though, I'd love a matamp cab.
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I'd love a Martamp 4x12.. I just cant justify one (at least til I've properly moved out) :(
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What happened to the cream needs?
The cream Egnater use is an American only colour apparently, boooo! So i just went for all black, can't go wrong.
Ran it at a proper band practice volume tonight, it sounded mint!!! Couldn't be happier :D
It's an arse it not having wheels, but i'm sure it sounds better not having them
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You could always put casters on it then put it on its side for the extra bass you apparently get from not having casters? Or you can get ones that clip on/off I think some mesa cabs have/had them.
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You could always put casters on it then put it on its side for the extra bass you apparently get from not having casters? Or you can get ones that clip on/off I think some mesa cabs have/had them.
Sounds simple, but i never thought of that! Cheers Tom