Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Twinfan on July 21, 2008, 02:21:27 PM
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I've got the GAS itches again, and I'm thinking Rich Robinson of the Black Crowes. Neck 'bucker on a vintage bridged tele.
Alnico II Stormy is a given for the neck, but what for the bridge? I know nothing about single coil pickups for Teles, so what'll match the neck 'bucker well and give that big, open, crunchy Keef/Robinson Tele tone?
A Flat 50 Blackguard?
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I've been listening A LOT to Heaven's Basement on these last weeks and right today I was driving back from the university thinking "that sounds a lot like Black Crowes, but they seem to get everything from the 70's to late 90's, instead of the straight 70's influence" :D
coincidentally, I just discovered that they use BKP's, apparently the Riff Raff
I don't know sheet about single coils, though :P
I'd probably install a humbucker bridge and a push-pull for coil splitting
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHROME-MODERN-FENDER-TELE-BRIDGE-FOR-HUMBUCKER-FIT_W0QQitemZ160261795059QQcmdZViewItem
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I was thinking Boss or Brown Sugar so as not to get dominated by the neck humbucker.
I think Phil King mentioned that the Flat 50 set was comparable to the Boss in terms of warmth and output, but my memory may be playing tricks.
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Like many others, I'm working on hearsay on tele pups at the moment :roll:
But my understanding is that the original bridge in the esquires etc was a bit of a beast, that the Piledriver is somewhat based on this, and (I'm hoping!) that the 50s Blackguards are barking up the same tree... (I think PhilKing might be the source of my "knowledge" as well)
Whether it can compete with the SM, I really don't know, though. My experience of sticking a humbucker in the neck of a tele some years ago makes me a little wary about attempting it again!! (this was not BKPs though)
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I'm using the Pile Driver wth a Slowhand neck, and a Brown Sugar with an old Gibson/Silvertone mini HB. I've heard the Boss with a Sormy Monday but I like the Brown Sugar sound (didn't want to put BS because the censor might get me!). The Flat Pole BG bridge is the early Tele sound, and is a great pickup, but the Stagger Pole BG is also a great pickup, just from later in the 50's. Any of them will give a good sound with a humbucker, but for the sound you are after I would go with the Brown Sugar.
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Cheers Phil! Just need the second Tele now....
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I think that it might be the weather, but I'm lusting after a tele...
I was thinking about this though...
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/markdemanbey/Guitar/0262600521_xl1.jpg)
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thought this might be of use
E-bay brown sugar (http://"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bare-Knuckle-Brown-Sugar-Tele-Bridge-Pickup-Telecaster_W0QQitemZ250272909663QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250272909663&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318")
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Cheers horsey, I'll check it out.
I think I may pick one of these up to do a "Rich Robinson" on. They're already routed for a neck humbucker...
Squier Classic Vibe Tele (http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0303025507)
(http://www.squierguitars.com/products/prod_images/guitars/0303025507_xl.jpg)
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Cheers horsey, I'll check it out.
I think I may pick one of these up to do a "Rich Robinson" on. They're already routed for a neck humbucker...
Squier Classic Vibe Tele (http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0303025507)
That's the pine one, isn't it? Looks nice, even has proper vintage-style tuners.
Any idea of cost? (he says, too lazy to Google it)
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Yep, it's the pine one.
£225. Bargain.
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A white blond finish, maple neck and black pickguard is my dream tele. I saw a very tasty Suhr one recently, but that Squier looks justt as good for a fraction of the cost.
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Look away Philly, just found this on tdpri:
"Okay, here are the downsides: they tend to be pretty heavy and the have "Squire" on the headstock. If you can live with those two things, you would be a fool not to give one a try. They also only come in one color, but I swapped the black pickguard for white and it just looks killer!"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/114891-cv-tele-question.html (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/114891-cv-tele-question.html))
Otherwise this guy puts it right up there with the expensive ones in his 30 tele collection!
Still looks like we've got a bit of a wait in the UK though :?
EDIT: WOT HAVE YOU DONE TWINFAN??!! I just realised I was quite happy with my little Alice (baja) and various other guitars, I'd even forgotten these things were in the pipeline... and in the space of 6 hours you've converted me to man-on-a-mission (find CV tele, try CV tele, buy CV tele, preferably while wife is out of country on holiday with her friend so I have time to get properly acquainted...)
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Look away Philly, just found this on tdpri:
"Okay, here are the downsides: they tend to be pretty heavy and the have "Squire" on the headstock. If you can live with those two things, you would be a fool not to give one a try. They also only come in one color, but I swapped the black pickguard for white and it just looks killer!"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
It's Ok Andy, I have no plans to purchase, I'm all Tele'd up for the moment. But never say never....
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Rich Robinson's main tele is a blonde '64 so I think Yarbird's even?
The new Squire looks sweet, almost too good to be true. Hopefully the necks feel right like the Baja and pine I think is a good choice. Will it be solid?
I'm already planning the tweeks.....new pots and caps, BK Blackguards, Wilkinson Bridge, 4 way switch, and it's still less than £400.
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I reckon they're goping to be sleepers until the press get them reviewed and love one.
Buy one as soon as they arrive :wink:
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I reckon they're goping to be sleepers until the press get them reviewed and love one.
Buy one as soon as they arrive :wink:
That's exactly what I'm thinking...
Luckily I've calmed down since last night - why do I need another tele right now? The only real reason for me is this "get one while you can" feeling...
"Internet-induced-GAS" methinks!!
Back to the pickups though - and I'm itching to try out BKP tele pups - on the tele site, this looks like another one (like the baja) where you end up feeling that there aren't too many mods you can make that improve it... (One guy even reports that his has got nickel hardware...)
What if you get one and it is so tele-sounding that you can't bring yourself to change it? :lol:
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Then I'll change my Baja :wink:
I'm definitely getting a 'bucker necked Tele. I'm going to tune it up to open G and bash a few riffs out....
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I never realised you were such a fan of the Keef/Rich thing, Dave.
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I love the simplicity of it, and the groove. Same reason I love early ZZ Top.
Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers anyone??? :D
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Just fitted a 4way Blackguard 50s set to my Baja with a Callaham bridge - Too early to tell, but very nice - in the same ballpark as the Fender Baja pickups but with a lot more harmonic content and liveliness - been doing some Southern Rock such Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gimme 3 Steps as a test and harmonics jump out of the lead line lines.
The strings are still unstable (I am using an old set of boomers I had in a drawer, so I am not used to non nickel strings) - so its still a bit of a way to go before I have a full verdict, which I will share.
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Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers anyone??? :D
:) My favourite ZZ Top song, and one of my all-time favourite guitar solos (by anyone)!
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I love the simplicity of it, and the groove. Same reason I love early ZZ Top.
Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers anyone??? :D
I love ZZ Top right up to and including Degeullo, though the last couple of albums are interesting.
Love the above song but "Jesus just left Chicago" and "Heard it on the X" have some great sounds
It's amazing how much Strat & Tele theres is in the early albums, but all anybody talks about is the Pearly Gates stuff
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OK played a bit more (morning off you see) - The Flat Pole 50 bridge nails the Black Crowes Jealous Again type tone big time :D
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Cheers Elliot - I had a feeling it might! So it's that or the Brown Sugar.
Going by name alone, it may have to be the Flat 50 with a Stormy....
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OK played a bit more (morning off you see) - The Flat Pole 50 bridge nails the Black Crowes Jealous Again type tone big time :D
This is so weird as I've just got my tele down from upstairs the other day, tuned it to G & started teaching myself Jealous again....Damn the Crowes are good! I may take a chance on a set of brown sugars...hmmmm
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Off topic, but I'm glad to hear that the Flat 50 nails the early Black Crowes stuff as I've just bought a set for my new Tele and I love the tone of the Crowes :)
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Off topic, but I'm glad to hear that the Flat 50 nails the early Black Crowes stuff as I've just bought a set for my new Tele and I love the tone of the Crowes :)
Actually Brow - I think you're pretty close to "on topic", a lot closer than some of my posts earlier :lol:
I'm gonna want to hear how it goes for you - I've almost decided on blackguards with the flat 50 for my baja. I wasn't particularly after a Black Crowes sound, but it'll be big a bonus ;D
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Actually Brow - I think you're pretty close to "on topic", a lot closer than some of my posts earlier :lol:
I'm gonna want to hear how it goes for you - I've almost decided on blackguards with the flat 50 for my baja. I wasn't particularly after a Black Crowes sound, but it'll be big a bonus ;D
After checking I've had Blackguard 55 Staggered pickups for my Tele, not the flat 50's :lol: I don't know how much the 2 vary to be honest, but I'll be sure to post back when I've got them installed.