Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: willo on September 14, 2005, 09:15:04 PM
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Hi there,
a colleague at work is looking to buy her 12 year old son an electric guitar for christmas. She's looking for under £100, including some kind of amplifier.
Now, I know that in amongst all the Gibsons, Fenders, Tylers and PRS's and custom builds that inhabit this board, I guess we never consider the other end of the spectrum. But I said I'd help her out, so any suggestions?
I suggested checking ex-demo and 2nd hand, as well as Squier and Epiphone - when I was 12 I didnt care about pickups, wood and whatnot - as long as it looked like the guitars Oasis had, I really didnt care! :P
So, any ideas where to get a decent guitar at a decent price?
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You can pickup "all in one" packages in places like argos. They are cheap and you get an amp and a guitar.
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You can pickup "all in one" packages in places like argos. They are cheap and you get an amp and a guitar.
aye, thats what we were looking at. Im just wondering if there is a way to get away from all the Encore guitars, although I appreciate that that is hard within the price budget... :(
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how much is that jackson rock star package?? do they even sell it over there?
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=Jackson_Pro_Pack
i dont think it's 100 quid, but with that she will earn the title of the coolest mom on the planet and might spawn another paul gilbert =)
Pack includes a Jackson JS30DKT Dinky hardtail, a C Tech Pocket Rockit headphone amp, a Jackson strap, and a Jackson guitar stand.
JS30DKT Features Compound (12” to 14”) Fingerboard Radius,
Reverse Headstock,
MOTO Dot Position Inlays
this is the axe
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=JS30DKT_Dinky_Hardtail
it is not in the price list and i am afraid its nearer to 300 than 100 =(
the amp i havent seen either..
dont know, sorry
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You might get lucky and score a second hand Yamaha........
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You might get lucky and score a second hand Yamaha........
thats what i was hoping for! :wink:
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:D Hi willo check out your local music shop Fender Squire do a start up package as does Jackson & i`m sure Ibanez do so as well.
:D 8)
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I like that jackson axe, Davey!
Imagine a twelve year old kicking ass with that! :D
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I like that jackson axe, Davey!
Imagine a twelve year old kicking ass with that! :D
yea, so did it.. but i think it's way out of the budget. shame that i'm not in the UK. i'd give 'er my practice marshall so the kid can use it.
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Here is a good package- just slightly too high , but great value
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-Pacifica-112-Guitar-Peavy-Amp-Korg-Tuner_W0QQitemZ7349984734QQcategoryZ33049QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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What about the local Loot?
There's usually a fair amount of cheap stuff in there that should fit the bill. You could offer to go through the ad's and mark the one's you think look like a good deal. Maybe. Just an idea.
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You can pickup "all in one" packages in places like argos. They are cheap and you get an amp and a guitar.
And most of the time they are returned or sent to guitar shops to be fixed/set up.
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don't spend less than £200 on a guitar for a beginner. it will be RUBBISH and it won't inspire the kid to play, (s)he'll get fed up and quit, and it will be a waste of £100 that yu spent on a cr@ppy guitar. A beginner needs something they can really play and get to know.
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don't spend less than £200 on a guitar for a beginner. it will be RUBBISH and it won't inspire the kid to play, (s)he'll get fed up and quit, and it will be a waste of £100 that yu spent on a cr@ppy guitar. A beginner needs something they can really play and get to know.
Yes, maybe, but £200 is a fair amount of money for some parents to be spending on a christmas present.
Besides, I started on a £120 guitar, yes it wasnt great, but I was 12. It was hardly like I was checking the fretwork and the neck profile. And 10 years later and I still havent quit.
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There are quite a few Yamaha's going on E.Bay at the moment and they are known for being excellent quality for a begginer. The amp would have to be one of those mini marshall stacks, they're on E.Bay at "buy it know" for just over £20 so if your friends could stretch just a little bit more(£20 or so ) they will have a really nice start up kit with brilliant resale value if things dont go according to plan.
I learnt on a £25 nylon string s**t heap with a glued neck when I was about 12 and now at 26 I still love the guitar with a passion and I feel I have earnt the right to play really cool ,high quality equipment. I always felt that with guitar playing it was always instant love or no love. Regardless of your tool, they've all got a little bit of magic about them. :wink:
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Steve, didn't you find guitars in dumpsters every now and then? Itcan't get cheaper than that.
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I started on a cheapo £100 Squier and I haven't given up yet either.
Maybe a second hand Pacifica, even the lowest range one were really good for the money. Like someone else said stuff like loot and even car boot sales aren't too bad. I got a Hohner goldtop copy for £20 once at a boot sale :)
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don't spend less than £200 on a guitar for a beginner. it will be RUBBISH and it won't inspire the kid to play, (s)he'll get fed up and quit, and it will be a waste of £100 that yu spent on a cr@ppy guitar. A beginner needs something they can really play and get to know.
:D This is a great theory but unfortunatley it`s B*ll*cks. i think the ratio of beginners is 1 in every 4 staying with it for anything beyond the first year. Most people in this day & age don`t have that kind of money to throw away. The problem is that most guitar students think playing will be a walk in the park only to find that it`s bloody hard work & takes dedication. & you can`t predict which kids wil click with it & which ones won`t ! go the cheap way if they show any signs of wanting to keep it up then you can buy more expensive gear later.
:D 8)
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Now that my proxy problems are fixed I can post again
Just looking at the current edition of Guitarist (well I wanted to read the esprit ceview) and Isee the current special offer in Soho soundhouse is the Yamaga ERG 121 for 80 quid (well 79.99).
One of those and one of the little Danelectro amp the eStudio is under 20 quid and the Honeytone is between 20 and 32 (depending where you buy it). I paid under 25 for my sons honey tone.
I use my sons honeytone amp more than my AVT 50 or Blues Jr cos when you turn the gain up it's just so much fun :)
An advantage for his mother is they take headphones too ;)
Kilby...
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You know you don't need it to be a package, you can get "cheap" amps even cheaper on e-bay, and Yamaha seem to get glowing reviews as far as budget axes go. Vintage are good budget guitars...just not budget enough in this case.
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How about one of those little practice amps that look like cigarette packets. They're small enough to put in your pocket and I think TO posted a review a while back.
Not sure the cigarette packet idea is appropriate for the age but I think you can get them in different finishes.
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shame that i'm not in the UK. i'd give 'er my practice marshall so the kid can use it.
I'm in the UK and you can have my Laney TF200 65w (I think) combo for cheap (if you come get it, since it'd be a pain to post!). :) Where I live is so small that I haven't got space to keep it anywhere but the attic, so it's not much use to me :(. It's a decent little amp: quiet enough for bedroom practice but loud enough for small gigs.
As for guitars ... I'd worry about getting something too cheap. A really cheap guitar can sound awful and be tough to keep in tune, and this can be really discouraging when you've just got an instrument for the first time and it sounds like crud no matter how hard you try. Try to get a guitarist friend to try out any potential guitars, if possible, in hopes of finding a cheap-but-decent one! And it's definitely worth looking for decent second-hand stuff over less-decent new stuff.
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i'd definately go for a used pacifica 112. my brother has one, and it really ain't half bad. (good sustain, overall tone, H/S/S versatility, good for anything and everything, solid alder too!!- no plywood bollucks!) i might change pickups and hardware...make it a project guitar actually. ( hope he doesnt mind :wink: i'm sorry about my last post, i was kinda in a strop cuz i'd been playing my friend's unknown brand guitar that he picked up for £80 and it was so indescribably rubbish it wouldnt even stay in tune while i was playing it. that;s gotta be enough to drive anyone insane!
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Yamaha Pacificas all the way, I have a Yamaha RGX121S that I started out on as my first electric (essentially a pacifica with two humbuckers, singlecoil in the middle and solid colour body) and it kicks ass.
Loads of people love pacificas, well known awesome guitar for very low price.
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:D Yep have to agree the Pacifica gets my vote to & yes if you can pick`em up 2nd hand all the better.
:D 8)
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it looks to me, my friends, like we have come to a decision! now theres a novel thing...
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ha ha! Yes, a decision - although I originally recommended a Yamaha to her in the first place :wink: Now i have to try and see what I can get for £100ish...
Thanks for all your help!
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-Pacifica-112-natural-finish-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ7351174181QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
perfect- plus yu can paint it whatever colour yu want (if yu want, obviously)
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If you have a local Cash Converters, try there. I went in the local one looking for a job today, they had some really cheap guitars that looked like they could be ok, about £70 each!
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Surely you mean Crack Converters ;)