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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: MDV on August 11, 2008, 09:08:37 AM
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The only thing I dont like about it (yes, the only thing: I dont know why people dont like it, its a good OS):
"Are you sure"
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"Windows needs your permission to continue"
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"Are you REALLY sure?"
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"I wouldnt want to do anything you didnt like"
- DO IT!!
I exagerate, but only a little.
I'm reliably informed that this can be switched off, and you can go back to the far less annoying "Are you sure?" - Yes -> does it
But I cant find it
Anyone know where it is?
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'fraid not, but when you find it can you let me know??? :lol:
I'm sick of the "I need to do this as an administrator is that OK?" prompt!
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:lol:
Will do!
I know one of my mates knows, but I have new-phone-no-numbers syndrome at the moment.
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Its in users in the control panel
turn off user account control and then also change the way that windows notifies you if its off
otherwise it will keep bringing tooltips and whatnot up in the sys tray.,
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I've got used to that now and dont really care that much, though it does get a bit annoying when you want to get things done quickly..
Apparently its bad to switch it off because it has a load of good security stuff as well as the annoying popups. This program lets it run in "silent mode" whilst still giving you all the security - http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseVo71qYKY
snigger.....
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I've got used to that now and dont really care that much, though it does get a bit annoying when you want to get things done quickly..
Apparently its bad to switch it off because it has a load of good security stuff as well as the annoying popups. This program lets it run in "silent mode" whilst still giving you all the security - http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/
Bugger.
I think I'll just put up with it then. Ah well.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseVo71qYKY
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http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
lol :P
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You could try tweak-uac to stop the annoying popups and still have the security features of uac :)
hahaha
"Waaaah, boo hoo! I can't drag and drop! Dumbass. Looks like your Macs aren't perfect after all, which leads me to my second point:
2. $%&# you."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseVo71qYKY
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Very appropriate, and ammusing, but, as I've said before and am about to say again, if I had a mac, then I'd be a mac owner and theres nothing worse than a mac owner talking about his functionally inferior technophobes fashion accesory ;).
Macs Vs PCs = One-box hifis Vs Seperates hifis, or, hehehehehehe, off-the-shelf guitars Vs custom/pimped guitars.
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Stupid double post
NOOO, tripple post!
Wouldnt happen on a mac. Just one button so you dont get confused.
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:lol: Reminds me of this:
(http://i38.tinypic.com/16jj75u.jpg)
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Mac mouses have two buttons, have for a while. Plus pressing control while clicking does the usual rmb thingys. I like macs, I use macs, I'm not a zealous fanboy. Never used Vista though, seems a bit flashy and rubbish to be honest.
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I've got both. I prefer the Vista to the Mac to be honest, i just find it easier to use, and i hate having to press control to right click sometimes, pain in the arse.
Although, i like using garage band on the Mac (its a laptop), and the movie editing software is very easy to use. i also use it for watching dvds and just the occaisional internet use (like right now).
Just depends what you want to use it for to be honest, one isnt better than the other, they're too different for that really.
P.S. The fact that you can't go through every window on macs using Apple Button tab really grinds my gears!
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:lol: Reminds me of this:
(http://i38.tinypic.com/16jj75u.jpg)
:lol:
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To Turn it off (I do but I work in IT so I know the potential issues)
If you do switch off UAC install Firefox and use that as your web Browser.
Start >Run >MSCONFIG
Click on the System Configuration Tab
Scroll down Click on Disable UAC
Click Launch
Reboot
Your Done.
BTW Mac Lovers (Oh and I do use Mac's at work too, they're all PC's and as such are as secure as the person using them.) Security analysis has shown in the first 6 months of 2008 more exploits were found in OSX than in Vista. :shock:
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I've got both. I prefer the Vista to the Mac to be honest, i just find it easier to use, and i hate having to press control to right click sometimes, pain in the arse.
Although, i like using garage band on the Mac (its a laptop), and the movie editing software is very easy to use. i also use it for watching dvds and just the occaisional internet use (like right now).
Just depends what you want to use it for to be honest, one isnt better than the other, they're too different for that really.
P.S. The fact that you can't go through every window on macs using Apple Button tab really grinds my gears!
Go into your system settings and turn on two finger clicking. Means you can put two fingers on your track pad and click the button for a command click.
Oh and to cycle through windows it's apple + ~
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P.S. The fact that you can't go through every window on macs using Apple Button tab really grinds my gears!
You can cycle through every window of a specific app though with apple button + ~
EDIT: Now if we had the option to delete our own posts, I could use it as Badgermark's already said it!
Go into your system settings and turn on two finger clicking. Means you can put two fingers on your track pad and click the button for a command click.
YOU LEGEND.
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I turned it off.
But I might just turn it back on.
I mean, I have firefox and AVG 8, and no virus or malware ever got so far as to do anything bad to any of my PCs in 7 years of XP, but still....
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Yeah I'm pretty awesome.
Other cool shortcuts- Apple and [ or ] to move back and forward in safari. Apple + shift + [ or ] to shift between tabs. Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!
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Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!
On my mac it's apple+shift+3 or 4 for screencaps.
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Mac mouses have two buttons, have for a while. Plus pressing control while clicking does the usual rmb thingys. I like macs, I use macs, I'm not a zealous fanboy. Never used Vista though, seems a bit flashy and rubbish to be honest.
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I like my mac but I am also not a fanboy as such
I do accept the analogy of custom guitars compared to off the shelf that MDV made, but the Mac does what I need it to.
I had to use a Mac at first as none of the publishing houses would accept adverts and artwork that wasn't done on a mac (that has changed now) and none of my friends and relatives had a PC so if i wanted help etc I was going to be better off with a Mac.
For what i now use it for - web/email/dreamweaver/photoshop etc I find it covers my needs and I have not had to contend with any viruses so far since I went over to OS X
I use my girlfriend's PC with XP and it is fine apart from her having AOL on there which seems to take over
I think it is whatever you are used to.
I do feel that the fuss over the iPhone is all a bit much
A nice unit for sure but it's just a phone and a bunch of other stuff
I still use a pay as you go mobile and spend as little as £10 every 3 months as I am not that much of a mobile user.
So the calling plan for any of the "smart-phones" is an expense that I just don't need.
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Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!
On my mac it's apple+shift+3 or 4 for screencaps.
Ah thats the one. I'm at work on a Dell PC and tried to remember something i've never thought about doing, darn muscle memory!
yes the iPhone is a bit much, I'd rather have an iPod touch and a good phone than one that is smudge city and means i can't text while pretending to work.
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Mac mouses have two buttons, have for a while. Plus pressing control while clicking does the usual rmb thingys. I like macs, I use macs, I'm not a zealous fanboy. Never used Vista though, seems a bit flashy and rubbish to be honest.
Well, I have 2 mice for my PC: one air mouse that you wave around like a wii controller, that has volume, play, pause, mute, and track skip built into it and works from further away than you can see the cursor (and with every media app that I've tried it with) and one for when the batteries on that run down or playing games (another win for PC) that has 5 buttons and a 2-D scroll wheel.
In short - mac mice have 2 buttons now? Well they're still as far behind as they were before, if not more.
Jonathon, yeah, AOL is horrible, horrible software. I try to advise people away from it for both that reason and the criminal, literally, business practices.
I've heard all the arguments, and theres nothing a mac can do that a PC cant, the difference is purely in the know-how of the user.
Plus all the supposed benefits of OSX: Vista can run OSX natively as well, and OSX is just pretty UNIX anyway, which any PC can also run. Again, the only advantage, if you think its an advantage, is that the mac does it out of the box.
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The benefit of Mac is simple. You can get rid of all the interface and control it via the terminal - Which is priceless, and which can't be done succesfully on any recent windows... They promised a damn redo of the cmd prompt for Vista and never bloody delivered - Ugh.
And as MDV said, its all basically Unix, and as such, all the major benefits that a Unix based system has, mac also has.
There's no point being zealous in either. XP's pretty good if you're a day-to-day user, as is Mac, neither of them are superior in anyway, and to say so is idiotic, either way, I run linux most of the time, so it makes no difference to me.
That being said, I'd never use Vista... It's very stable, and a very well designed operating system, but I don't want my PC to call home every time I do anything. Its very very unnerving, and I'm sure a perversion of human rights, but w/e.
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I use both - Mac Pro and Macbook Pro at work (and on the commute, and garageband for recording practices), and a PC at home, which I mostly use for gaming.
Things I like about the Macs:
- Magsafe power connector - good innovation
- Button on the bottom to tell you how much battery life is left without switching it on - simple, but sensible!
- Decent spec - now they've switched to Intel architecture
- The fact that it's basically just Unix. I have to say I still prefer most flavours of linux, but there are some things that apple do well, like the window switching features.
Things I dislike about the Macs:
- Mac Pro is too slow due to fully buffered DIMMs. 8Gigs of ram is fine, but at least design a platform that can accept non-buffered DIMMS (same problem exists on Skulltrail).
- No right mouse button on the laptop - this is a HUGE problem for me on the bus. I need to be able to right mouse and scroll and also do other clicks at the same time, which you can do fine with a mouse, but is simply not possible to do without. When I'm on the bus, I often don't have room to use a mouse. It's a long journey every day, and I like to do a lot of my structure refinement and model building (we're talking 3D protein structure here) on the way, but all because of Apple's STUPID stance on the right mouse button on the laptop, I find this very difficult to do. GG Apple :/
- Broken X11. Now fixed, but why did I have to do this?
Why I use a PC at home:
Gaming, and the flexibility to build a machine that will outclass a Mac on the programs I use for a fraction of the cost.
I run XP, because I find I really dislike some aspects of Vista (which I have on another laptop, borrowed from my previous job (I still do some contract work, it's not stolen!))
Oh, and my macs have crashed more than my XP machine, and the vista machine has crashed about the same as the macs.
Give me the games I play on linux, and I'm out of this silly apple/microsoft game for good!
Roo
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The spec argument aganinst mac is a little unfair, because although they are lower spec at the same price, its also a faster and lighter operating system (or it used to be, no idea how big recent builds are).
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Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.
MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.
Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines. THIS (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html) is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.
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Badgermark - my point is simply that interface technology for PCs is still way, way ahead of macs.
And, its not easier to use keyboard shortcuts when your keyboard is on the other side of the room. This is basically a remote-control-mouse. No keyboard needed, no proximity to the box needed. You just need to be able to see the monitor.
Anywho, this has decended into a gay little mac Vs PC thing, just for asking a simple question about windows.
I feel no need to debate this (why I did at all I have no idea)
I'm outtathisthread.
Bye!
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Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.
MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.
Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines. THIS (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html) is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.
That article is 100% nonsense.
Apples ARE more expensive than PCs, there's no way you can hide that. Even Mac fanboys will agree.
They've taken a ridiculously overpriced laptop to compare to a Mac. Hell, I could do my own comparison if you want...
Macbook Pro - £1299
2.4ghz Core 2 Duo
2gb Ram
200gb HD
Nvidia Geforce 8600M GT with 256mb dedicated SDRam.
Now, in the PC Laptop market, you can get similar spec laptops for under £800.
For example, a product from Sony, with a P8400, 3gb ram, and a similar if not better graphics card comes under £800.
And if anyone mentions build quality etc, the macbooks are made by sony last time I checked, so that's not an issue.
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Did you read the article? It take the same price point and compares what you can get from Apple and from Dell. For the same price you get a better deal with the Apple. Like I said, you can get a cheap £400 laptop easily, but it wont have the features of the £600 or so macbook.
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Did you read the article? It take the same price point and compares what you can get from Apple and from Dell. For the same price you get a better deal with the Apple. Like I said, you can get a cheap £400 laptop easily, but it wont have the features of the £600 or so macbook.
I did read the article.
And I'll say a couple of things - dell is a bad comparison, they're laptops are very low spec, and awfully built.
And then not only to choose Dell, but to choose a Dell XPS, their most overpriced laptops - is $%&#ing retarded.
And then - If it wasn't enough, they compared to a $%&#ing Voodoo PC, which sell some PCs for $20k, I'm sorry, but that's the most idiotic thing I've ever seen.
And commenting on the write up - He blatantly lies saying that the 8700m doesn't use dedicated memory, and that the 8600m is faster. The he compares the weight of the 15" macbook to the 17" Dell, which is hilarious, and then fails to mention that 802.11n is a $20 upgrade for the dell. The guy has cherry picked overpriced computers to compare to the mac, and then lies completely to justify the mac's superiority.
I'm a mac fan, but never before have I seen such an absolutely AWFUL article.
Edit: And another thing, the 15.4" dell, with the same specs as shown there is $350 cheaper, so he clearly chose a 17" laptop, which is much more expensive, to compare to the cheaper 15.4" mac, when he should be comparing like to like, however, ofcourse, the 17" mac is alot more expensive, so he decided that would be a bad idea...
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Did you read the article? It take the same price point and compares what you can get from Apple and from Dell. For the same price you get a better deal with the Apple. Like I said, you can get a cheap £400 laptop easily, but it wont have the features of the £600 or so macbook.
Oh really?
13" macbook - £699
2.1ghz processor
120gb hard drive
1gb ram.
I raise you a Samsung q210 or the slightly older q45.
Both have:
Range of processors from 1.66-2.2ghz
12 inch screen.
3gb ram
320gb hard drive
and the new q210 has a 9200m with 256mb dedicated.
You can get a 1.83ghz q45 for £500, and for £580 you can get the newer Q210 with a 2ghz processor.
They're better built than the cheap macs imo, have no fllex whatsoever, and fantastic keyboards. Oh, and they both weigh less than 2kg.
I know which I'd go for in terms of price-spec.
So to finally compare....
Mac - £699
Processor - 2.1ghz Core 2 duo
Ram - 1gb
Hard drive - 120gb
Weight - 2.27kg
Screen - 13.3" - 1280x800 resolution
GFX - Intel Integrated, shared memory.
Samsung Q210 - £580
Processor - 2.0ghz Core 2 duo
Ram - 3gb
Hard drive - 320gb
Weight - 1.95gb
Screen - 12.1" - 1280x800
GFX - Nvidia 9200m 256mb dedicated.
The weight is an unfair comparison, since the samsung is smaller, but still, I'd prefer a 12" to a 13" anyway.
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Fair enough. To be honest I read it and not being up to date on computer matters (used to be, decided it was lame and stopped caring) i assumed he kinda knew what was what. Anyway, group hug. I like macs, some people don't, lets be friends.
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Fair enough. To be honest I read it and not being up to date on computer matters (used to be, decided it was lame and stopped caring) i assumed he kinda knew what was what. Anyway, group hug. I like macs, some people don't, lets be friends.
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The comments on that post rinsed him too, I love macs, but anyone buying one does have to accept the price. Personally, price/spec ratio means nothing to me, since I don't care for spec, as long as a laptop is well built and relatively quick, which the macs definitely are. Keyboard/build quality is much more important to me than ram/processor.
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Just got a laptop with Vista today - first question:
How do I do that thing that looks sort of like Mac's "expose" feature to cycle thru the windows? :lol:
P.S. I forgot how shite Windows is, lol! It won't let me install things when other things are installing, and the things that I'm installing (WINDOWS LIVE PROGRAMS) fail to do so for absolutely no reason after thinking about it for half an hour.
Glad this laptop's my girlfriend's and not mine :P
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P.S. I forgot how shitee Windows is, lol! It won't let me install things when other things are installing,
I'm pretty sure that's the same with mac?
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Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.
MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.
Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines. THIS (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html) is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.
you can't double-finger-click while double-finger-scrolling... Serious issues!
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Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.
MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.
Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines. THIS (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985.html) is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.
you can't double-finger-click while double-finger-scrolling... Serious issues!
Not at the same time, though that road would lead to madness! Enzyme structures sounds suspiciously close to biology to me. That be women's science.
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Enzyme structures sounds suspiciously close to biology to me. That be women's science.
Though I have no idea where that came form - I salute!
What was it Rutherford said?
All science is either Physics or Stamp collecting.
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Enzyme structures sounds suspiciously close to biology to me. That be women's science.
Though I have no idea where that came form - I salute!
What was it Rutherford said?
All science is either Physics or Stamp collecting.
No idea, i thought it up myself. Based on Roo disgracing the good name of Chemistry! Bloody tele loving hippy woman biologist.
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Update on my Vista experience:
It refuses to connect to the internet again. The first time I put the laptop on, it simply asked for a WPA-PSK key, which i put in, and it worked. Since I restarted the computer to install windows updates, it refuses to connect, telling me my key is wrong sometimes (it worked before, and it works on all the other 5 computers in the house), and sometimes just refusing to connect without reason.
EDIT: an interesting thing is that when i put my mac on after this, I was told the same thing - that the WPA key was wrong, and the same thing then happened on all the other computers. I reset the router, and it fixed the internet and the key was correct again on all the computers but the new Vista running one.
I spent about 4-5 hours trying to get it to connect last night to no avail, I've installed all the latest drivers (downloaded on my mac ;) ) and still nothing. I plugged directly into the router downstairs to download AVG, open office, iTunes etc. and that works fine.
Now I'm trying to do the "Windows Easy Transfer" over an AD-HOC network between the new and old windows computers... We'll see how this goes. It seems to be working but hasn't really progressed at all in the last hour.
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UPDATE: Windows Easy Transfer is useless beyond belief. The computer won't log on half the time, there are fragments of old files all over the place from easy transfer, where it randomly fails halfway through and stops, but doesnt get rid of the files it's copied for some reason; I can't delete them - it won't give me access even though I'm an administrator. It crashes every 5 minutes. I'm trying to open system restore, but it crashes every time. It's a piece of $%&#ing shitee, and nobody should have to waste their $%&#ing time and energy trying to get this stuff to work. Windows Vista sucks, Dell sucks. Buy a mac.
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Indy, a tool is only as good as the operator.
I would find Mac stuff useless as I haven't used one in about 12 years, I am using Dell + Vista, atleast I haven't had problems with Vista.
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Indy I swear that laptops $%&#ed, my mums is a cheap dell and it runs vista ok, well its kinda slow but at least it connects to the internet and never comes up with errors. Mines on vista as well and runs perfectly. I'd have got a macbook if I had money to burn and didnt like gaming (and could put up with a tiny screen). Apparently the monitors on the imac are pretty cr@p as well so if they had a desktop tower at a reasonable price that could connect to any dvi monitor easily and had a huge hard drive so I could fit windows on it for gaming as well, I might consider it.
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UPDATE AGAIN:
Everything was $%&#ed so I've reinstalled Vista and all the appropriate drivers. I've transferred the music and pictures and documents etc. manually because that makes far more sense and is quicker anyway. iTunes, Open Office, AVG etc. are all installed and working well. Now just need to sort out the original problem; making the $%&#ing wifi work!! :lol:
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What wireless card does it have btw? My mum got a netgear one for hers and that wouldnt connect for her unless you connected via the netgear program rather than the thing windows has. Could be worth seeing if it has its own program and set it to connect through that if it does.
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What wireless card does it have btw? My mum got a netgear one for hers and that wouldnt connect for her unless you connected via the netgear program rather than the thing windows has. Could be worth seeing if it has its own program and set it to connect through that if it does.
It's a Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card. That's an interesting point; I'll look into it.
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Apparently Vista doesn't work with WPA-PSK passkeys at all. Useful.
I've had to change to WEP security; not as good, but hopefully there's not too many people hacking into our network up here in the middle of nowhere. The internet now works on every computer :D
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So, either I could work in a physics department with a whole load of spoddy gimps, or I could work split between chemistry and biology with access to the spoddy gimps for when I need some geek humour, and access to all the fitties who work in biology.
Who's the silly boy now? :)
(oh, and X-ray crystallography to determine 3D protein/ligand complex structures is hardly "biology")
I'll give you tele-loving hippy, you Beatles fan, you!
:D
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Spods need love too! Everyone knows the hotties are in pharmacy, something I learned very quickly in my biomolecular classes. I was one of the 4 fellas surrounded by 90 + SMOKING hotties. Not a munter in sight!
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Does a PhD in Chemistry and Pharmacology count? I'm not asking, I know it does. :)
:)
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LOL!
It's more like
"Are you sure you want to copy this file?"
"Are you sure you're sure you want to copy this file?"
"Are you sure you're sure?"
"Are you sure you're sure that you're sure?"
"Are you sure you're sure that you're sure that you're sure?"
"1 down, 5000 more to go!"
"Are you sure you want to copy this file?"
"Do not ask me again for this file (WHAT???).... YES"
"it took longer to check the box and hit yes than it did to click yes 5 times without having to move the mouse...."
2 hours later....
"I have carpal tunnel from clicking the mouse"
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wtf? It only asks me once :? Do you guys have broken Vista or something? :lol:
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innit - only asks me once aswell