Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Mark66 on August 14, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
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I'm thinking of adding an OD pedal to my set-up to give the Romany Plus a Marshall classic rock type of tone when
I'm in an LP mood. Romany is very Fender voiced, great with strat plugged straight in, or through tubescreamer, for
Fender tone, but maybe good OD pedal (Marshall voiced) would give me another "channel". I thought maybe
Tonebone Plexitube or Hot British(expensive though). Any ideas?
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Crunchbox?
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Yeah the MI Audio crunch box will do what you want. I had one and when I set my Laney to clean, when I switched on the crunch box it sounded pretty much exactly the same as when the Laneys gain was turned up. This is a clip I did ages ago comparing the two, crunch box first then laney 2nd
http://www.netmusicians.org/files/82-cb%20vs%20laney.mp3
Bit thin on both tones but as you can tell its pretty much the same!
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Xotic BB preamp?
Supposed to sound like a Bluesbreaker..... They do sound Marshally but can also be used as a cleam boost etc
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+1 on the Crunchbox, it makes any amp Marshally (great crunching mids) and they are only £65.00
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crunchbox indeed! i suppose the BB would be a more versatile choice. you could also use a modded DS-1.
but yeah, crunchbox all the way :)
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Guess I better find a crunchbox to try! Popular choice, thanks
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Kasha Quickmod:
http://www.kashaamplifiers.com/products.html
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Kasha Quickmod:
http://www.kashaamplifiers.com/products.html
That looks interesting; have you tried one, and can you clarify how it works? The webpage is a little vague
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I have a Cornell Stinger - precursor to the Romany
I have tried a few things
The MI Crunchbox works well, but my choice for proper Marshall tone is the Tone Bone Plexitube
This will turn the Cornell into a 3 channel amp - clean, crunch and lead
http://www.tonebone.com/tb-plexitube.htm (http://www.tonebone.com/tb-plexitube.htm)
(http://www.tonebone.com/images/plexitube-slice-w-awards.jpg)
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I find it strange that loads of people are suggesting a Crunchbox when the OP states he wants something for Classic rock.
The Crunch box is a fine pedal, but it is a one-trick-pony, and that trick is NOT classic rock. The Crunchbox gives very much a high gain JCM2000-type tone, with slightly scooped mids.
The last time I looked, "Classic Rock" describes 70's bands such as Free, Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, UFO etc.
Those bands basically use much lower gain tones, with NMV Marshalls and JCM800s, with much more mids than the CB can deliver.
Having owned a JTM45, a superlead, and a JCM800, I can say categorically that a Crunchbox sounds absolutely nothing like any of them. OK, rant over, I've got that off my chest.
For pedals, at the lower gain end of the classic rock spectrum, for me the Box of Rock is king - truly unbeatable.
Other pedals which can really nail some of those tone are the AC Booster (lower gain), and the BB pre-amp.
The Blackstar HT Dist and Dual can also pull off a number of those tones, in their own way.
I haven't played any of the Radial pedals, but know that some people rate them highly.
If I could justify the cost, I would get a Fetto (search for "Himmelstrutz Fetto")
In my experience, there are a bunch of "Marshall-clone" pedals out there, but very few of them actually respond in an amp-like manner, or give a particularly believable amp-like tone.
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Classic Rock covers a lot of ground Alan. According to Bowling For Soup, Motley Crue is classic rock ;)
The Crunchbox, Marshall Guv'nor and Box of Rock all do flavours of Marshall and would get my vote.
Mark66 - if you fancy a Crunchbox let me know. I'm selling mine, it's in mint condition. £45 posted to you :)
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Ever tried a Keeley modified Blues Driver? You can can get Classic Rock type tones easily from that, and it has the addition of a bass boost which really thickens out the sound. Currently my favourite pedal by far, and well worth the money IMHO.
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Classic Rock covers a lot of ground Alan. According to Bowling For Soup, Motley Crue is classic rock ;)
Got to agree with that. Classic Rock has come to mean anything from early Bluesbreakers to Late 80's high gain (JCM900?) sounds.
Bowling for Soup are great! :D Love their version of Summer of 69!
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strongly disagree the crunch box is scooped (sorry hamfist mate)... i find it very middy - i usually reduce the mid on my amp when i'm running it. perhaps its the difference in our rig?
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I noticed the Crunchbox was very middy through my Orange TT, it really cut through a loud band mix and gig. I kind of liked it, the tone was good just not what I was wanting. Totally nails the 80s Marshall sound.
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Kasha Quickmod:
http://www.kashaamplifiers.com/products.html
That looks interesting; have you tried one, and can you clarify how it works? The webpage is a little vague
No, I've not tried one yet, but I'm dying to! Looks really interesting ... Basically, it creates a bypass in the V1 slot of the preamp stage and then enables you to insert either a single or dual 12XA7, effectively adding a channel to your amp. Tonally, Kasha amplifiers are very much from the Rivera school, which means "very Marshall" in nature.
Kasha has a couple of products I'm interested in trying out, actually. PDT_008
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Hughes & Kettner tube Factor. Very tubey and very late 70's Marshall tone. And above all, it works great with Fender voiced amps.
Here's a link. Try the interactice demo and soundclips. http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=12 (http://www.hughes-and-kettner.com/products.php?mode=prod&id=12)
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Classic Rock covers a lot of ground Alan. According to Bowling For Soup, Motley Crue is classic rock ;)
Got to agree with that. Classic Rock has come to mean anything from early Bluesbreakers to Late 80's high gain (JCM900?) sounds.
Bowling for Soup are great! :D Love their version of Summer of 69!
I agree that peoples definitions of Classic rock do vary. I really didn't think that anyone included songs from the late 80's. Ah well, what do I know.
Seems like people need to be a lot more specific if they are asking about guitar rigs for classic rock, if it can range from JTM45 to JCM900 territory. Maybe the term "Classic Rock" is becoming rather pointless these days, if it is becoming accepted that it encompasses almost all pre-90's rock.
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Classic Rock covers a lot of ground Alan. According to Bowling For Soup, Motley Crue is classic rock ;)
Got to agree with that. Classic Rock has come to mean anything from early Bluesbreakers to Late 80's high gain (JCM900?) sounds.
Bowling for Soup are great! :D Love their version of Summer of 69!
I agree that peoples definitions of Classic rock do vary. I really didn't think that anyone included songs from the late 80's. Ah well, what do I know.
Seems like people need to be a lot more specific if they are asking about guitar rigs for classic rock, if it can range from JTM45 to JCM900 territory. Maybe the term "Classic Rock" is becoming rather pointless these days, if it is becoming accepted that it encompasses almost all pre-90's rock.
Not to totally derail this thread, but age does not make something classic. Classic rock pertains more to individual bands than an era; bands that pioneered the sounds and epitomized the milieu we call 'rock'. Thus, even if Zeppelin or Deep Purple came out with an album tomorrow, it'll STILL be classic rock. A band like Riot, or LOUDNESS, which were also making music in the 70s, will never be considered classic rock.
Just my .02. Sorry for the hijack.
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Kasha Quickmod:
http://www.kashaamplifiers.com/products.html
That looks interesting; have you tried one, and can you clarify how it works? The webpage is a little vague
No, I've not tried one yet, but I'm dying to! Looks really interesting ... Basically, it creates a bypass in the V1 slot of the preamp stage and then enables you to insert either a single or dual 12XA7, effectively adding a channel to your amp. Tonally, Kasha amplifiers are very much from the Rivera school, which means "very Marshall" in nature.
Lynch used to use them in about 1988-9
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Not to totally derail this thread, but age does not make something classic. Classic rock pertains more to individual bands than an era; bands that pioneered the sounds and epitomized the milieu we call 'rock'. Thus, even if Zeppelin or Deep Purple came out with an album tomorrow, it'll STILL be classic rock. A band like Riot, or LOUDNESS, which were also making music in the 70s, will never be considered classic rock.
Just my .02. Sorry for the hijack.
Further to that, there are new bands making what is being termed "Classic Rock" around such as Airbourne, Heaven's Basement, Tokyo Dragons et al, thus defining the term as a genre rather than meaning "old".
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Classic Rock covers a lot of ground Alan. According to Bowling For Soup, Motley Crue is classic rock ;)
The Crunchbox, Marshall Guv'nor and Box of Rock all do flavours of Marshall and would get my vote.
Mark66 - if you fancy a Crunchbox let me know. I'm selling mine, it's in mint condition. £45 posted to you :)
Maybe classic rock is a bit of a vague description. Just wanted to give a general idea of what I am looking for( not Motley Crue by the way!). I do like a wide range of rock/blues, I get most of the blues tones straight into the Cornell. As for rock sounds, anything from early Clapton, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Gary Moore.........you get the idea, through to GnR type stuff from 80s/90s. More into crunchy/middy than hi-gain/scooped mids, if pedal does both, all the better. Hope this gives a better idea of my needs. Gonna try a few at my local geetar shop tomorrow, namely Blackstar & Box of Rock, among others. They don't have a crunch box,
so I might be interested Twinfan, watch this space!
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Still think Tonebone Plexitube would work well for you
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Still think Tonebone Plexitube would work well for you
I really like the Plexitube, and Hot British, only downside is the price tag. Not sure I can bring myself to pay so much for
one pedal. If price was not an issue, I'm sure Plexitube would be the one. Still, if I come across one, I might not be able
to stop myself!
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Ok, I tried a few, now my head is spinning! I can't decide between Box of Rock & Blackstar HT-dual(they are both
great by the way). Blackstar has bigger range, although I might never use the higher end of gain. Box of Rock has
plenty enough gain for me, I could almost toss a coin. Does anyone own any of these? What do you think after a
bit of use?
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I use a box of rock in front of a fender HRD. Guitars are a Strat and a LP. I run the amp into moderate overdrive and use the box of rock to add a bit of extra drive and sustain for certain songs. It was the clip on the Zvex site that got me interested in it and it's certainly a fair representation of what it can do.
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I ordered a Box of Rock, does everything I want with a simpler layout than the Blackstar. Tonebone Plexitube still
appeals to me, unfortunately a bit over budget.
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I ordered a Box of Rock
Cool, I don't think you will be disappointed.
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BOR is a great pedal. But it won't give you high gain crunch. If you want that oney day, get a Fulltone OCD.