Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Antag on August 21, 2008, 09:53:46 AM
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Take one of these (http://www.engl-amps.com/e412ss.html)
+ two of these:
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_G12CL80.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/G12CL80.jpg)
+ two of these:
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_G12K100.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/G12K100.jpg)
= mega mental metal cab of DOOM! :twisted:
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_cab_ins.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/cab_ins.jpg)
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_cab_front1.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/cab_front1.jpg)
I've been stuck on 999 posts for ages (was determined to save #1000 for this) but the speakers took forever to arrive! :( I finally wired it up last night & have been playing all morning. I cannot believe how awesome this sounds :)
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_rig1.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/rig1.jpg)
(http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/th_rig2.jpg) (http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh23/george204/rig2.jpg)
I'm still in the "euphoric" stage right now, so can't make sensible objective comment :lol: but first impressions are that this combination is absolutely ideal for my Engl Savage. Yes, there will be clips... :)
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Awesome.
Any pic of a K100 is enough to make me weak at the knees.
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Awesome.
Any pic of a Classic Lead 80 is enough to make me weak at the knees.
(not tempted to mount them in an X pattern?)
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(not tempted to mount them in an X pattern?)
No, I wanted to be able to switch the cab in stereo & just use the CL80s or just the K100s.
If I stand to one side of the cab then move to the other there's a subtle difference. I'm going to have a go at an A/B comparison between the two sides tomorrow, but my impression is that these two speakers compliment each other nicely & are a huge improvement on my Mesa 2x12 cab.
Don't get me wrong - I LIKE Vintage 30s & have used them for years. But while Vintage 30s in a Mesa cab are great with the dark/dense/loose & slightly "spongy" sound of the Rectifier, with the Savage I felt that the top end was a little hard & that I could get a much better sound from it with something else. Now I've found it :D
One thing I didn't expect was how much better the Savage's CLEAN channel sounds in this cab. I often use an MXR Chorus to warm up my cleans but with the Savage & Mesa cab I always felt that I needed to use it (the MXR will warm up just about anything :)) Now, I can happily play clean without the chorus.
FWIW, the stock V12-60s weren't bad at all (there have been a few negative comments on this forum about them). I'm tempted to get another one of these cabs at some point & leave it stock for an alternate sound. But I fell in love with CL80s years ago & have always wanted them in a closed back cab.
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classic lead 80s are great and totally under-rated, I'd have them in a heartbeat if was gigging in a 'heavy' band. as it stands, my 55Hz bass cone G12H-30s cover pretty much anything.
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That cab as a whole makes me weak at the knees!
G12Ks are the hound's knackers!
Roo
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br00talz
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That's possibly the most brutal cab i've ever seen.
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Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.
Can someone educate me?
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Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.
Can someone educate me?
Well, I guess you could start with the manufacturer's spec pages here (http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/products/classic/detail.asp?ID=8) & here (http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/products/classic/detail.asp?ID=32)
Also, this (http://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin/documents/testreport_40.pdf) review helped a lot.
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Thanks. Looking forward to clips!
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Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.
Can someone educate me?
the original g12-80 was a g12-65 with a heavy magnet and slightly beefed up coil. i've never played one, but it sounds well tasty to me from that description.
of course the classic lead is a sort of version of that. from pieceing together internet rumours, i think that means a vintage 30 with a large dust cap and slightly beefed up coil. again a tasty description... but this time i have played a modern classic lead 80 for a bit on 'strange' gear. it sounded like my v30/g12h 2x12 would if it were a 1x12. i'd like a classic lead 80 in a 1x12.
some people say the g12-80 and the classic lead 80 sound quite different, i suppose you might expect that from the descriptions i just gave (which i'm open to correction on) - but they must have a roughly similar coil rigidity and they both have a large dust cap. and of course they both have that 'H' magnet. one might draw rough comparisons of the g12-65 and the v30 cones as being classic celestion-y, but that surely is where the difference lies - well, i reckon anyway :)
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SOOOOOO Sick! I am ecstatic for you! That is an awsome buy :D