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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: puma_21 on August 25, 2008, 04:48:41 AM

Title: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: puma_21 on August 25, 2008, 04:48:41 AM
Looking for suggestions and information.

I have NEVER used a wah pedal before (haven't really needed to), but not I'm interested in creating a little more character (or expression as you will_) to my playing. Also, anyone use phasers...how are those?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: MDV on August 25, 2008, 05:27:32 AM
I use it very rarely, but I'm fond of my Vox 847
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Antag on August 25, 2008, 06:39:41 AM
Morley "Bad Horsie"

The switchless activation is probably the best piece of guitar FX design EVER :) The pedal is spring loaded in the "back" position (i.e. at the bottom of the sweep), you just move the pedal off that position & it turns on, then when you're finished take your foot off & it turns off.

Also, it's built like a tank & sounds good into the bargain.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: MrBump on August 25, 2008, 08:57:15 AM
I have an old ColourSound, which I really like.  Of all the wahs that I tested (back in '91, I think) it had the biggest range, and I like to use the scope in the bassier position, if you know what I mean.

Not at all sure what newer ColourSound pedals are like though, if indeed they're still made...

Mark.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Stringkiller on August 25, 2008, 09:45:58 AM
Fulltone Clyde - great long sweep - possible internal adjustments (never done it) and no squeaking just a very responsive great sounding wah. Also built to last .

Never met the guy who makes these but he sure has some good soundclips including an exceptional video of the piano outtake of Layla played on a Strat on his web site (Google it)- I think it is in the chorus or Univibe sections.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 25, 2008, 09:48:52 AM
get an old Jen Super Crybaby like this one, theywill blow almost anything in current production out of the water and should set you back no more than £75.00, check this one out...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Jen-Cry-Baby-Super-Wah-Pedal-with-Soft-Case_W0QQitemZ120295985628QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120295985628&_trkparms=72%3A984%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: martinw on August 25, 2008, 10:08:05 AM
Morley "Bad Horsie"

The switchless activation is probably the best piece of guitar FX design EVER :) The pedal is spring loaded in the "back" position (i.e. at the bottom of the sweep), you just move the pedal off that position & it turns on, then when you're finished take your foot off & it turns off.

Also, it's built like a tank & sounds good into the bargain.

+1.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Alex on August 25, 2008, 10:28:02 AM
I have a Dunlop CFH, very aggressive, and a Morley George Lynch (basically a modded Tremonti I've been told). The latter is softer in sound.
Typical most Crybabies have this classic, aggressive Wah wail you know from many recordings. Morleys and Vox pedals are softer and less "in-your-face".

I know a lotta players love the swithless operation, but I don't. I like the sound of a wah in one stable position, typical Michael Schenker sound.
If you know Arch Enemy, I really get a great Michael Ammott sound with the Morley I have.

There is a huge range of Dunlop signature Wahs, my favs are the Slash and the Buddy Guy. They're on my shopping list.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: PhilKing on August 25, 2008, 11:50:35 AM
I have an old Jem from the early 70's with a Fulltone pot and it sounds great.  I also have a morley, a Vox and several others, including a McIntyre Tube Wah (it really does use a valve to get the sound).  My favourite is the Jem, followed by the McIntyre (though I tend to use it as a boost).
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Simon D on August 25, 2008, 01:06:26 PM
If you're looking for a wah with a wide sweep from bass to treble, the Dunlop Zakk Wylde Crybaby is well worth checking out. It's definitely a rock wah though, so if you're a blues player, it might be worth looking elsewhere!
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Nadz1lla on August 25, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
I had a Morley Bad Horsie 2, it's an awesome wah, and as previously stated the optical activation is a brilliant design, as at the moment the wah on my Pod is like any other normal one where you have to press it on and it just seems more clumsy to me.

I have heard that the Crybaby Dime signature wah's are pretty good too but I've not been able to check them out myself.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: sjwebb90 on August 25, 2008, 01:45:56 PM

I use a Budda wah and that has a nice sweep and sounds full bodied and smooth.

I had an Original Crybaby GCB-95 and in comparison it sounded thin and harsh. I replaced the inductor with a "Fulltone 500mH Inductor", upgraded a couple of the capacitors, replaced the switch for a 3PDT to allow true bypass and an LED to show when its on. Ialso installed a switch so I could go between the regular 33K resistor (thats strapped across the inductor) and a 47K resistor to get a"normal wah" or a more "vocal wah". The Crybaby now gives the Budda a run for its money!!

The most popular Wah circuits are based around the VOX style inductor variant. One reason why one wah sound better than others is choice of components. Manufacturers using audiophile components (i.e better Capacitors etc) will usually have a better sound. Secondly, and probably more importantly, is the choice of inductor and how accurate it has been wound to the nominal value.

A lot of Wahs now come with internal trim pots, which if you have time, you can sit and tweak to your hearts desire.

If anyones interested check out the article The Technology of Wah Pedals.

http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/wahpedl/wahped.htm
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Spitfire on August 25, 2008, 02:17:29 PM
i use the gcb-95 dunlop wah.. but like a lot of others i modded it.. true bypass and i took the buffer out.. and i really like it a lot now.  all the negatives about it i had before have gone. 

The Ibanez weeping demon is quite a tweekers wah.. looks cool too!!!
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: badgermark on August 25, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
I use a Crybaby Classic. I actually have a spare one for sale if you're interested, one I got myself and another in it's box as an unwanted gift. PM if you're interested.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on August 25, 2008, 06:48:34 PM
I've got the crybaby Jimi B model, with the chrome edges. I felt it to have the best sound of the wahs i've heard.

However, because the crybabies use a kind of tread to move the pot in it, if it breaks, it can be a pain to get repaired etc. Which is where the morleys have the advantage.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 25, 2008, 07:00:10 PM
Bad horsie for me.

Very clever, very durable, and totally simple.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: nfe on August 25, 2008, 07:01:29 PM
I have an RMC Wizars and love it to bits. The only wah I've found that suits extreme gain or extremely bassy fuzz sounds but ALSO sounds pretty classic.

FWIW I hate the Bad Horsie II, both it's over the top voicing and it's switchless design, I think it's absolutely horrible and renders the pedal with a rotten action, but I only know one other person who doesn't think it's the business so...
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: puma_21 on August 26, 2008, 02:10:03 AM
I forgot to mention: I will be playing medium to very high gain...

The Wizard sounds interesting...but so does the Horsie....how does the horsie fair with high gain?
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Antag on August 26, 2008, 08:52:16 AM
FWIW, there's a little bit of my Bad Horsie on this (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9744.0) clip - actually, take 2 of it sounds better & is on the second (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?&topic=9744.15) page.

OK, it's only one brief lick but IIRC it's the only clip where I've used a wah.... :)
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: martinw on August 26, 2008, 10:07:22 AM
how does the horsie fair with high gain?

That guy Vai seems to manage!  :)
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: Alex on August 26, 2008, 10:36:09 AM
I forgot to mention: I will be playing medium to very high gain...

The Wizard sounds interesting...but so does the Horsie....how does the horsie fair with high gain?

The Dimebag is made to cope with a lot of gain, that's what it was made for. It will still cut through. On the downside it is a bit harsh with crunch sounds.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 26, 2008, 06:42:12 PM
I forgot to mention: I will be playing medium to very high gain...

The Wizard sounds interesting...but so does the Horsie....how does the horsie fair with high gain?

It's the only wah pedal I've used that actually works at hi gain - No "slight" effect, the full on wah.
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 26, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
For vintage and updated vintage mods to wahs I found this site really good
http://www.wah-wah.co.uk/ (http://www.wah-wah.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Best Wah Pedal
Post by: WezV on August 26, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
or if you fancy doing it yourself:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.castledine/greenfuz/wah.html

i have done some of these to a vox and  crybabies, they work really well

i particularly like the vocal, midrange and sweep mods... add a new inductor as well for a very special wah pedal