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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Spitfire on September 25, 2008, 10:58:24 AM

Title: Pedalboards
Post by: Spitfire on September 25, 2008, 10:58:24 AM
hey, i'm not a massive pedal user, but i like a few every so often.

Ive been thru what many of us may have before,.. how do i power them??? I dont want to use batteries as i dont want to have to unplug everything every time i use them. maybe im lazy, but i dont like doing that.  Then dasy chaining seems a no no, as i dont want ground loops and hum..

The commercially available power supplies are very expensive.. the T-rex, voodoo labs etc etc... then i came upon this.. its a pretty common board, but i cant recall seeing anyone mention it on here... a gator powered pedal tote.. its a decent pedal board with a carry case which comes with a power supply on the bottom attached.  only £80

http://www.gatorcases.com/productsdetail.aspx?LID=18&PID=170 (http://www.gatorcases.com/productsdetail.aspx?LID=18&PID=170)

i got one but the wood was cracked, the construction seems pretty solid apart from this, so its getting replaced today.  all around it seems a pretty good solution.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Twinfan on September 25, 2008, 11:18:40 AM
Bizarre coincidence, but I've just posted this info in MrBump's 9v power supply thread.

You need any old pedalboard and:

One of these:  Power Supply (http://www.johnnyshredfreak.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=12&zenid=d1b585781ace93ff7261f0b3f83e4e14)

And one of these:  Daisy Chain (http://www.johnnyshredfreak.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=51&zenid=d1b585781ace93ff7261f0b3f83e4e14)

Myself and MartinW use them and they're spot on.  No ground loops, no issues whatsoever.  Both of us have full boards too:

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Pedalboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: hamfist on September 25, 2008, 02:28:28 PM
Daisy chaining with a reasonable quality, regulated PSU of the correct voltage, and supplying enough total current for whatever pedals you are using, should be just fine. Even a £10 Maplins one.
  There are some pedals, notably the Line6 pedals which are very fussy about having there own isolated supply (otherwise hum will result).
   I use, and have used, a mass of different pedals, and have daisy chained them all on suitable power supplies. All with no problems.
  What I do try and do is to have a separate PSU for any pedals in the amp's loop, and a different one for any pedals going in the front of the amp. That has certainly worked for me, and I am not tolerant of hum !!
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Catalyst77 on September 25, 2008, 02:53:55 PM
I use the Diago power station.

http://www.diago.co.uk/pedal-power/pedal-power

I found it to be much better than the AC/DC power supplies at maplin for example, and relies soley on Daisy chains!

Plus its also really small, so i can just velcro it to the underside of my board

Heres my pedal board

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t29/benmartin1977/pedalboard.jpg)

And I dont have any ground loop issues!

Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 25, 2008, 07:17:09 PM
I have also got a diago unit-thus far I was thoroughly recommend it- noisless and small. Daisy chaining seems to work well.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Twinfan on September 25, 2008, 07:58:39 PM
The one I put a link up to is the same as the Diago one.  Just cheaper  ;)
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Will on September 25, 2008, 08:50:37 PM
Twinfan, do you have a different PSU for the 18v chorus there?

I really want to take this off topic with your's + catalyst's pedalboard pics :D
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: mikey5 on September 25, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
I think its cheaper and better to just build your own board. That way when dealing with the electronic stuff you can customize it. I built a small wooden case for my pedals, but I will definitly be building something better in the future and having done this smaller one it will be easy to change it around
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Twinfan on September 25, 2008, 10:22:14 PM
Twinfan, do you have a different PSU for the 18v chorus there?

Yep - the Chorus needs an 18v supply so it has its own.  Everything else is daisy chained.  I've updated my board pic earlier in the thread to show what it's like now.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: mikey5 on September 26, 2008, 01:01:43 AM

Whats the Pedal with all the white tape on it?? Is it a master pedal or something
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 26, 2008, 08:58:52 AM
Blast you Twinfan- the Lynn Faulds-Wood of the forum.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Twinfan on September 26, 2008, 09:45:02 AM
Sorry Mr 38th  :oops:
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Catalyst77 on September 26, 2008, 10:01:14 AM
Quote
Twinfan, do you have a different PSU for the 18v chorus there?

I really want to take this off topic with your's + catalyst's pedalboard pics

You can buy voltage doublers from diago which allow you to run an 18v pedal of a 9v power supply; i used to have a couple but sold them with my MXR 10 band.  You just attach them to the one of the end plugs on the daisy chain.

Just make sure you get the right polarity!

Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Will on September 26, 2008, 12:30:16 PM
I was actually going to ask if there was something like that, but thought it would be a bit stupid :P
Oh dear, plans are forming. Involving Wobo things too, they look soo nice
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Catalyst77 on September 26, 2008, 03:41:51 PM

Whats the Pedal with all the white tape on it?? Is it a master pedal or something

Yes its like a master controller that lets me combine different pedals while simultaneously changing between channels on my amp.

So I could go from clean on channel one with reveb and trem, to dirty on channel two with delay and a bit of flanger.

Here be the link:

http://www.woboge.com/remote_prog.html