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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 05:44:20 PM

Title: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 05:44:20 PM
As the question says...

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/markdemanbey/Guitar/RobSmith.jpg)
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sambo on September 26, 2008, 05:45:38 PM
Good god...
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: kellar on September 26, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
Yuck!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Will on September 26, 2008, 05:50:21 PM
I like it. The bottom horn wing is a bit weird.

That said, I probably wouldn't buy one - too untraditional

I think its the headstock that I love
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 26, 2008, 05:51:26 PM
I like the Firebird-ish aspects of the design, but it's ridiculously big.  

Is R Smith some kind of giant?
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: roland_rat on September 26, 2008, 05:55:31 PM
I want to like it,just not sure that I really do though.  Maybe it one of them you just got to try!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 26, 2008, 06:03:30 PM
I voted against but it would probably look better on. Other than that, not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: hamfist on September 26, 2008, 06:23:54 PM
A fine looking guitar.  Who wants to look like everybody else anyway ?
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Spitfire on September 26, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
no thanks
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: FernandoDuarte on September 26, 2008, 06:45:56 PM
Damn, need to clean the puke in my keyboard now :evil:
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 26, 2008, 07:31:39 PM
it looks like it would suit robert smith.  Some of the design elements dont really go together very naturally.. but i like it anyway!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 26, 2008, 07:42:11 PM
It's hideous.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 07:44:36 PM
I really want to try one.

It looks somehow not quite right, much like Robert Smith I suspect (come on.  A Goth?  At HIS age???) - but I kinda like that.

Mark.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
Two points:

1.  You're right PQ, it's 'effing HUGE!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BrXOcUJDvZU (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BrXOcUJDvZU)

2.  In the right hands, it's 'effing cool!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n547VhR1aRY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n547VhR1aRY)

Mark.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: phlip on September 26, 2008, 08:31:44 PM
His playing in the Cure Great his playing in the Siousxie and the Banshees Great that guitar not great!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on September 26, 2008, 08:38:34 PM
The question confuses me.  Wouldn't the Guitar From Hell be exceedingly cool?  At any rate I don't like it. :P
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Ben_W on September 26, 2008, 08:42:12 PM
It looks like it's trying to be new and different, while attempting to be cool, but just failing. Unfortunately. It's a nice idea, but looks too weird for my liking.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 08:46:37 PM
The question confuses me.  Wouldn't the Guitar From Hell be exceedingly cool?  At any rate I don't like it. :P

You're not gonna go all "pick of destiny" on me now, are ya?
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
Interesting... it doesn't have a tone control...
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on September 26, 2008, 09:21:18 PM
The question confuses me.  Wouldn't the Guitar From Hell be exceedingly cool?  At any rate I don't like it. :P

You're not gonna go all "pick of destiny" on me now, are ya?
I was thinking more along the lines of a guitar that's a hell-spawn mixture of the bones of fornicators and the sinew of thieves and gluttons.
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/10/Will-Ferrell-writes-a-song-for-garth-brooks-384390.html :lol:
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: kellar on September 26, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Geez, Billy Corgan and now Robert Smith! The guitar Gods are really struggling to find a few decent names to throw on guitars these days.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 26, 2008, 09:36:45 PM
how dare you!!!  Billy corgan may be an arse but his music is good and the fender signiture would be a great guitar.. i would obviously change the pickups but how many 70's looking hardtail strats are readily availble at the moment without his signiture strat
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 09:41:23 PM
Geez, Billy Corgan and now Robert Smith! The guitar Gods are really struggling to find a few decent names to throw on guitars these days.

How dare you II!!!

Robert Smith is COOL!

Have you heard his colab with Reeves Gabrels?  Yesterday'a Gone - It's superb!

PS - I don't know who Billy Corgan is...
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: broken cord on September 26, 2008, 10:32:54 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit when I saw that. :P
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Kilby on September 26, 2008, 11:57:39 PM
I met Robert Smith and he is a pretty big guy (compared win me anyay)

I sort of like it but I don't know why
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 27, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
PS - I don't know who Billy Corgan is...

heathen!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Ian Price on September 27, 2008, 10:38:26 AM
how dare you!!!  Billy corgan may be an arse but his music is good and the fender signiture would be a great guitar.. i would obviously change the pickups but how many 70's looking hardtail strats are readily availble at the moment without his signiture strat

+1 - Corgan was always by my side when I was growing up (not literally!)
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 27, 2008, 12:15:57 PM
how dare you!!!  Billy corgan may be an arse but his music is good and the fender signiture would be a great guitar.. i would obviously change the pickups but how many 70's looking hardtail strats are readily availble at the moment without his signiture strat

Totally agree on all points (including BC being an arse).  And I'm already on record as a fan of his signature Strat.

In the right hands, it's 'effing cool!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n547VhR1aRY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n547VhR1aRY)

I like the guitar the left handed chappie is playing in that clip!  :D

Oh, and I agree Robert Smith is cool too, although I'm not really a fan of his music.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 27, 2008, 01:03:09 PM
i think we need a picture of it now:
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/uploads/Image/billy_strat.jpg)

if i was buying a strat it would be this one
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 27, 2008, 01:06:50 PM
i think we need a picture of it now:

if i was buying a strat it would be this one

I was really seriously considering it, but I didn't want to get it then immediately ditch the pickups, it seemed silly to do that.  So I went the partscaster route instead, with a Highway 1 neck which is basically the same as a Corgan neck anyway.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sgmypod on September 27, 2008, 01:44:27 PM
Think prefered the ultra III which was similar (http://fleckguitar.com/images/guitars/schecter/ultra-3.jpg)..played great and sounded great as well(obviously would eventually have BKP)
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 27, 2008, 02:24:58 PM
Think prefered the ultra 2 which was similar (http://fleckguitar.com/images/guitars/schecter/ultra-3.jpg)..played great and sounded great as well(obviously would eventually have BKP)

I KINDA like that, but I HATE Bigsby trems, and I'm not sure about the pups...  Are the HBs?
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sambo on September 27, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
^ :o Hate Bigsby's!? HOW?! WHY?! :o
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sgmypod on September 27, 2008, 02:30:24 PM
yeah S/D's as I remember...
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 27, 2008, 03:03:41 PM
^ :o Hate Bigsby's!? HOW?! WHY?! :o

I don't know... Irrational, probably.  I just hate the look.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 27, 2008, 03:06:51 PM
^ :o Hate Bigsby's!? HOW?! WHY?! :o

I don't know... Irrational, probably.  I just hate the look.

I love the look, but they're such big clunky things they seem more trouble than they're worth.  Although I am thinking of putting a Maestro - another big clunky thing - on a guitar sometime.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 27, 2008, 03:37:04 PM
god damn these fender signitures... i want this

(http://elderly.com/images/fmic/30N/FJMJM_front.jpg)

the finish may be gayer than macca with an upside down esquire but i reckon i am cool enough to pull it off
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sgmypod on September 27, 2008, 03:53:28 PM
You'd have to be *L*
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 27, 2008, 04:36:45 PM
god damn these fender signitures... i want this

Is that the J Mascis sig?  I thought it was purpler than that.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: PhilKing on September 27, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
I'm suffering serious GAS for this - I almost bought one in the early 80's but went for a 57 reissue strat instead.  I am going to try it today and if it plays OK I will probably end up getting it - then I think a set of cold sweats might be in order!!
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: FernandoDuarte on September 27, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
Never liked this headstock and always think it should be nice with a ponty headstock... This proves I was right:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/elixr81/mockingbird_01.jpg)

Soo sad Warmoth can't do this body anymore
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: MrBump on September 27, 2008, 05:53:40 PM
I'm suffering serious GAS for this - I almost bought one in the early 80's but went for a 57 reissue strat instead.  I am going to try it today and if it plays OK I will probably end up getting it - then I think a set of cold sweats might be in order!!


Waaaay too many switches on that, PK...
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: WezV on September 27, 2008, 06:36:21 PM
Is that the J Mascis sig?  I thought it was purpler than that.

yeah it is, in some pic its looks more purple. 

I'm with phil on the bc rich - i much prefer the older style, its a great looking guitar and the headtsock does not need to be pointy.  I can even cope with the switches but would draw the line at the chickenhead
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: Philly Q on September 27, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
I'm with phil on the bc rich - i much prefer the older style, its a great looking guitar and the headtsock does not need to be pointy.  I can even cope with the switches but would draw the line at the chickenhead

Me too - I don't actually like the complex controls, but to me that early BC Rich style is what they should look like.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: PhilKing on September 27, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
The chickenhead  is a 6 position switch for the pre-amp (remember this is a late 70's design!).
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: mecca777 on September 27, 2008, 08:21:37 PM
I KINDA like that, but I HATE Bigsby trems, and I'm not sure about the pups...  Are the HBs?
I have an Ultra III and it's a killer guitar. They're weird pickups actually, Duncan Designed FG-101s which seem to be somewhere between a mini-humbucker and a Gretsch vibe. I would dearly love to get the scratch together to put some decent mini-hums in there instead, because the stock pickups don't combine with each other well at all, and are all but inaudible in "split" mode. The Bigsby works a lot better than I was expecting, and the tuning stability is solid due to the roller saddles in the bridge. I paid £250 for mine, new, in a Sound Control sale and I think it's the best guitar bargain I've ever scored.

I like the Robert Smith signature as well, but I tried one and it was way too big and unwieldy for me. The big body definitely contributes to a rich, spoony, hollowbody-esque sound, but it also looks like you're playing an Ikea table. Oh, and it should be neon green instead of black.
Title: Re: Robert Smith
Post by: sgmypod on September 27, 2008, 08:33:25 PM
yeah as one I tried was about £600