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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: roland_rat on September 26, 2008, 08:46:22 PM

Title: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on September 26, 2008, 08:46:22 PM
Hi what you guys think of this:- 


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Patrick-Eggle-Berlin-Left-rare-early-handmade-model_W0QQitemZ200257442697QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200257442697&_trkparms=39%3A2%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

It seems quite intresting to me. Dont see many of them as  a lefty. What do you think of the price?
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: MrBump on September 26, 2008, 08:47:48 PM
Always liked Eggles.  That seems like a good proce for the year.

Mark.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Ben_W on September 26, 2008, 09:19:25 PM
I've only ever played on an Eggle once. A The guitarist of a band that covered for us had one. It was nice to play and sounded great. You should try one out (if you can), and see if you like it. My mate hated the one he played, but i like them.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on September 26, 2008, 09:54:35 PM
i've liked any eggles i've tried (i'm probably biased because i own two though :lol: ). seems to be from the "right" period too. the dudes on the eggle forum would be able to give you more info about prices etc...
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on September 26, 2008, 09:57:41 PM
Cheers all,

Whats your gut feeling on the price Dave?
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Kilby on September 26, 2008, 11:53:04 PM
There's a few Eggle owners around here (a Berlin in my case)

The price looks pretty reasionable for the year but if you head off to www.patrickeggleguitars.org as they have the pricing for just about every eBay Eggle sale over the last 4 or 5 years

They probably also have more details on that guitar that. Are listed on the auction

Sorry I havnt posted a proper link but I'm using an iPod to post this
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on September 27, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
i'm not too well up on the prices, having only been keeping (a very rough) eye on them for about the past 9 months or so. I'd say kilby's about right, if you were really lucky it could go for a bit less, but it sounds pretty reasonable to be honest.

as i said, though, head over to the eggle forum which kilby linked to, they know way more than i do. :)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on September 28, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on September 28, 2008, 04:16:54 PM
the other thing to bear in mind is that with the credit crunch, prices might start to fall. if it went for £500 a year ago, it might go for £450, maybe even £400, if you're willing to hold out... obviously that's a risky tactic if you really want one, though.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on October 15, 2008, 01:09:31 PM
Hi guys,

I have been pondering quite for a couple of weeks over geting the Patrick Eggle Berlin  advertized on the bay.   After much deliberation ended up geting it for £440.  Time will tell If I have bought a good one.  Will let you all know more when it arrives.


Thanks again to all who contributed advice.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 15, 2008, 04:48:33 PM
Good choice.  I love my Eggle.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: blue on October 15, 2008, 05:34:50 PM
they tend to be very good guitars. you've gotten a guitar that is essentially on a par with the likes of PRS for around the price of an Epiphone.  hope you enjoy it ;)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on October 15, 2008, 08:06:02 PM
they tend to be very good guitars. you've gotten a guitar that is essentially on a par with the likes of PRS for around the price of an Epiphone.  hope you enjoy it ;)

exactly! :D

i hope you like it, let us know what it's like when it arrives. :)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Kilby on October 16, 2008, 10:56:44 AM
TBH I have never come across a bad Eggle (though I have met ones that needed a proper setup) though I do wonder why they chose Kent Armstrong pickups as the standard models (for a period)

Definately let us know hat you think of it when it arrives
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Philly Q on October 16, 2008, 11:33:48 AM
TBH I have never come across a bad Eggle (though I have met ones that needed a proper setup) though I do wonder why they chose Kent Armstrong pickups as the standard models (for a period)

I've never actually played one, but there certainly seem to be some bargains out there now.  I've said before that I always thought they were overpriced in their heyday - they were cheaper than PRS and high-end Gibsons, but as a domestic product they should have been much cheaper.  I think they might have ultimately been more successful if they'd settled for lower profit margins.

And they made some other odd decisions, like the aforementioned Kent Armstrong pickups - they might be great pickups, but they didn't seem to belong in such upmarket guitars.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Dazza1004 on October 16, 2008, 12:02:50 PM
+1 happy Berlin owner

Paid £500 for this about 6 months ago

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/Dazza1004/x50/Picture017.jpg)

Got a Miracle Man set in there at the moment. I love everything about mine but we warned, the string spacing is quite narrow, suits my stubby little fingers but something to think about.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Jonny on October 16, 2008, 12:06:48 PM
Orly? What other guitars have narrow string spacing? I might try and see if they suit me. I've never really taken into account string spacing.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Kilby on October 16, 2008, 12:07:55 PM
I've never actually played one, but there certainly seem to be some bargains out there now.  I've said before that I always thought they were overpriced in their heyday - they were cheaper than PRS and high-end Gibsons, but as a domestic product they should have been much cheaper.  I think they might have ultimately been more successful if they'd settled for lower profit margins.

And they made some other odd decisions, like the aforementioned Kent Armstrong pickups - they might be great pickups, but they didn't seem to belong in such upmarket guitars.

Indeed they where expensive (and the current owners of the name have not caught on to that.)

The Armstrongs can only be described as shrill, and when those are coupled with ebony fingerboards, maple tops and a small mahogany body, things get a bit too toppy for my tastes.

The duncans in most Eggles are considerably more balanced, and with the 2nd hand pricees a set of decent pickups are a small price to pay.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Philly Q on October 16, 2008, 12:12:17 PM
+1 happy Berlin owner

Paid £500 for this about 6 months ago

That's really nice, I like the understated look.

I'm starting to get Eggle GAS now...  :?  :(
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Brow on October 16, 2008, 12:41:28 PM
+1 happy Berlin owner

Paid £500 for this about 6 months ago

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/Dazza1004/x50/Picture017.jpg)

Got a Miracle Man set in there at the moment. I love everything about mine but we warned, the string spacing is quite narrow, suits my stubby little fingers but something to think about.

A guy I was in a band with a few years ago had 1 just like that.

It played well but it had a set of Duncan 59s in it, which I find to be very scooped sounding, so I never liked it's plugged in tone. I'm sure yours would sound alot better :D

What model is it btw?

**EDIT*** It's a Berlin, sorry!  :lol:
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on October 16, 2008, 01:05:41 PM
Cheers for the post guys.  I think its just a box standard berlin.
Apparently its geting shipped today so chances are it will be monday before it arrives.
My minds already started thinking what bare knuckles would I want in the guitar.  Though I may have to sell a bit of kit to fund new pickups (if they are needed).


 
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: TheDev01dOne on October 16, 2008, 02:12:33 PM
I like the look of them, not as lairy as a PRS, no AAAAAAAAAAAAAA quilted maple top, which is a big + to me, and a nice body shape.. they look like they'd be quite comfortable.

Will have to have a go on one if I ever see one around.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on October 16, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
^ there are plenty with fancy tops too. :D

i agree about the armstrongs kilby and philly, i have them in my new york, and, well, the phrase "spoiling the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar" comes to mind... i mean, if you're willing to mod etc. of course you can switch them, but a lot of people don't want to have to mod a guitar, and that means that all those people would simply avoid the guitar (which can't be good shifting large numbers of them). Don't get me wrong, i'd much prefer the money to go into wood (as eggle did) than pickups, but unfortunately i suspect i'm in the minority, which can't be good for the bottom line...

+1 happy Berlin owner

Paid £500 for this about 6 months ago
 

that's very nice, i was looking at one a bit like that a while back on ebay but it went higher than i wanted to pay (in hindsight, it still went for a decent price :oops: but i wasn't aware of that at the time)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Philly Q on October 16, 2008, 02:36:32 PM
i agree about the armstrongs kilby and philly, i have them in my new york, and, well, the phrase "spoiling the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar" comes to mind...

 :lol:  Excellent proverb, well done Dave!  :D
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 16, 2008, 04:40:18 PM
I'll have Dimarzio X2N and some other Dimarzio pup in mine on a temp basis.  Just had an offer accepted on a house though, so don't think I'll be able to afford to change them any time soon.  :(

Hopefully they'll sound alright, but thery're really not what I'm after sound wise (look wrong too).  Going to go for some HB sized P-90's if I can get some money or a trade together for them
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Kilby on October 16, 2008, 04:46:16 PM
I like the look of them, not as lairy as a PRS, no AAAAAAAAAAAAAA quilted maple top, which is a big + to me, and a nice body shape.. they look like they'd be quite comfortable.

Will have to have a go on one if I ever see one around.

Hmmm mines got a nice gentle quilt (reminds me a bit of Felines Green LP). The nice thing is they look real nice and don't require any fancy tops to do so.

THey are real comfortable and definately need to be tried (I'd like an all mahogany one with a set of crawlers in)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Lew on October 16, 2008, 05:03:18 PM
I had an LA for a while(strat with fancytop), it was great-at the time I really didn't apreciate how great.
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on October 16, 2008, 07:51:41 PM
i agree about the armstrongs kilby and philly, i have them in my new york, and, well, the phrase "spoiling the ship for a ha'p'orth of tar" comes to mind...

 :lol:  Excellent proverb, well done Dave!  :D

:lol: :drink:
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: roland_rat on October 29, 2008, 09:10:49 PM
Hi all,

As you all now I finally purchased the patrick eggle berlin.  It arrived last week  but with spending week away working in Swansea did not get to try it until the weekend.  First inpression is this is one im going to be keeping this one its very nice.  The pickups are seymour duncans Pearly gates bridge, alco II neck.  The bridge I quite like though feel harmonics are a little lacking. The neck pickup does not wow me at all. At some point in the future im sure they will be a pickup upgrade but for now I just need to give it some play.
Thanks again to eveyone who gave me some great advice. 

Cheers
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on October 29, 2008, 10:16:16 PM
just be glad they aren't the kent armstrongs... :lol:
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: Brow on October 29, 2008, 11:23:33 PM
just be glad they aren't the kent armstrongs... :lol:

Mine has those  :lol: Horrible nasty things they are!

I'm THAT desperate to get shot of them, I've put the PRS Dragon pickups in it out of my CU22 (now with Abraxas) until I can afford/decide on BKPs for it.

Hope you enjoy the Eggle :)
Title: Re: Patrick Eggle Berlin Lefty on the bay what you think
Post by: dave_mc on October 30, 2008, 07:23:10 PM

Mine has those  :lol: Horrible nasty things they are!

I'm THAT desperate to get shot of them, I've put the PRS Dragon pickups in it out of mu CU22 (now with Abraxas) until I can afford/decide on BKPs for it.

yeah, i'd get rid of them in a second too, except i'm too lazy to solder, and too cheap to buy new pickups for a while... :lol: