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Title: Epic solos
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 28, 2008, 09:30:31 PM
Post your most favourite solos of all time!

Here's one which is simply awesome:

Whitesnake - Fool For Your Loving (Steve Vai on lead guitar!)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IjuDJtCXGqM
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: AJDS on September 28, 2008, 09:43:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RxxjbzR5LQ

Shawn's solo in this probably my favourite of all time.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: gwEm on September 29, 2008, 02:09:35 PM
i've always thought my favourite solo is brian tatler's in 'am i evil?'

i haven't thought about it for a while, but i have no reason to change my mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbgv587ooNM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbgv587ooNM) (solo starts about 5m20)

when i was starting out, i thought i'd never be able to to play this solo... reckon i can have a decent stab at it soon :)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Woogie on September 29, 2008, 02:14:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAohdmCl4o
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Afghan Dave on September 29, 2008, 03:44:42 PM
John Sykes solo in "Crying In The Rain" (Whitesnake 87) - I can never tire of it's majestic perfection.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: AndyR on September 29, 2008, 04:03:38 PM
I doubt there's youtube clips for these...

But:

Rory Gallagher's on the Irish Tour 74 (album) version of Tattoo'd Lady. I saw him play this song 5-6 times, and I have many other live versions of it, but I never heard him top this one...

Jimmy Page's on the original Song Remains The Same soundtrack album version of No Quarter. The remastered one might sound better, but it's been hacked and shortened...

Jimi Hendrix's on the "Concerts" version of Stone Free (not sure you can still get this album), the short solo on the studio version is reputedly Jeff Beck's favourite recorded guitar solo (or was 25 years ago anyway!), but this live version has that plus this solo improvisation where you cannot hear him stop or pause to "think" about what to play next...

gulp, all my favourite solos were recorded in 1974 or earlier... :lol:
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Ben_W on September 29, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
I like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vJUvecTTR0&feature=related Paul Gilbert is awesome. :)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 29, 2008, 04:29:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
I'll have to agree to differ with you Joe - never liked what Vai did to Whitesnake

Edited because I'm dumb and put the wrong name - sorry Sambo

Brian May - Brighton Rock
Uli Roth - Sails of Charon
George Lynch  - In My Dreams
Michael Schenker  - Into the Arena, Attack of the Mad Axeman, On and On, Let Sleeping Dogs Lie, Rock Bottom (live)
Mark Kendall (Great White) - Rock Me , House of Broken Love, Angel Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYXHdFUAqK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYXHdFUAqK4)



 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xax-2Ytr9Z0&feature=related[/url)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: sambo on September 29, 2008, 04:42:36 PM
^Ahem!? :lol: :wink:
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Kilby on September 29, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
^Ahem!? :lol: :wink:

Damn,

I wanted to point out that Sam never said a word (for once) :)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: sambo on September 29, 2008, 05:00:07 PM
^ :lol:

Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: dave_mc on September 29, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
too many good ones to pick... :(

indecisive? me?

:lol:
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
More Schenker - looking sober and together
Messes up a bit but what great playing ability

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xax-2Ytr9Z0
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 29, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 29, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 29, 2008, 07:09:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

And I think it's balls, opinions laddo  :wink:

I didn;t say anything about his band's name, either.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: sambo on September 29, 2008, 07:50:10 PM
the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: -


Urgh. Not too fussed either way by the solo or the band, but that sentence is just the epitome of everything I hate about the pigeon-holing of music.

It just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2008, 08:24:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

I liked the clarity of tone that he had and some of what he was playing, although got a bit messy in places , and its a cool looking guitar
But his voice  :!:  not something I could listen to at all
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Sailor Charon on September 29, 2008, 08:29:28 PM
Uli Roth - Sails of Charon
I really must learn that song...
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 29, 2008, 08:57:56 PM
the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: -


Urgh. Not too fussed either way by the solo or the band, but that sentence is just the epitome of everything I hate about the pigeon-holing of music.

It just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Well,  if I explain what I mean. Firstly, I just think they're a terrible death metal band. Boring as hell and clinical and just completely, well, uninteresting and certainly the worst I can think of out of the more popular (big name) acts. Now, the "wish they were power metal" bit, they aproach everything in very PM arrangements and have all the widdly widdly posturing and posing that most PM bands do, finding excuses in songs to wedge massive solos in where they're jarring to the song as a whole, the Fermented Offal Discharge one being a fine example, they just generally sound like a power metal band covering death metal songs to me. Folk can like that if they want, that's fine and dandy, but to me it just comes accross as totally devoid of any emotion and frankly bores me to tears. Which is why I hate power metal (generally anyway, I don't want to be COMPLETELY black and white in case one day a PM band I like appears) like Roo hates teles.

I want music to be gritty and emotionally charged and a bit rough (unless, to be fair, I'm listening to Autechre  :lol:), they're the polar opposite and that's why I think they're baws.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 29, 2008, 09:21:34 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on September 29, 2008, 09:32:59 PM
I don't really mind necrophagist much, its just not really my kinda music anymore. I feel most metal is quite devoid of the passion that i like in blues-rock music. Just my opinion.

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

There are some really good metal bands out there i just feel that Nercophagist aren't one of them, i think thats what nfe is trying to get across.

Oh, and solos, agree with Rory Gallaghers Tattoo'd Lady on Irish Tour, one of my all time favourite albums.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 29, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

I liked the clarity of tone that he had and some of what he was playing, although got a bit messy in places , and its a cool looking guitar
But his voice  :!:  not something I could listen to at all

Jah, not my kind of music either, just love that solo. Tis a very bad video to show it properly, sounds great on recording though!
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Will on September 29, 2008, 09:40:44 PM
Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 29, 2008, 09:44:17 PM
Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though

Becker manages to make them sound extraordinarily diverse and expressive. Sweeps are just arpeggios, and arpeggios can be used brilliantly.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 29, 2008, 09:57:11 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

There's a time and a place for solos, I'm certainly not saying there isn't, I just thinks it's hella boring when a band is quite obviously just finding a way of crowbarring a solo into every song just for the sake of the guitarist getting to show off.  As for no one sounding lie them, there's certainly plenty in a very similar vein. Plenty massively more tecnhical too, if thats what makes them exciting for some folk. :)

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though

Becker manages to make them sound extraordinarily diverse and expressive. Sweeps are just arpeggios, and arpeggios can be used brilliantly.

That's absolutely true, but I think amongst people who use sweep picking very heavily the ratio of people who use it as a musical device to people who use it because it's a flashy technique for the sake of it is skewed quite some way to the latter. Sadly. When it's used well then yes, it can be marvelous.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 29, 2008, 09:58:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78F7M-LATw
Love this, just wish it was on the studio version.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: broken cord on September 29, 2008, 10:00:52 PM
I have to agree the Tattoo'd Lady is a fine example of Rory Gallaghers playing, but for me it was "Walk on Hot Coals" of the Irish Tour of '74 that I would pick. I still have the 33 1/3 double album that I bought in 1974 after first hearing about Rory, I was a young-gun  keyboard player back then , but Rory's guitar work blew me away. The purchase of that album in 1974 inspired no less than 20 of my freinds who are total  Die-Hard Rory fans today.

I enjoy alot of John Sykes work with Whitesnake and his solo work as well, and I think Uli John Roth's Sails of Charon is a beautiful display of guitar playing. However, I often work on Gary Moore's - Parisienne Walkways and am totally inspired buy his level of playing ond tone.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on September 29, 2008, 10:19:50 PM
I have to agree the Tattoo'd Lady is a fine example of Rory Gallaghers playing, but for me it was "Walk on Hot Coals" of the Irish Tour of '74 that I would pick. I still have the 33 1/3 double album that I bought in 1974 after first hearing about Rory, I was a young-gun  keyboard player back then , but Rory's guitar work blew me away. The purchase of that album in 1974 inspired no less than 20 of my freinds who are total  Die-Hard Rory fans today.

Walk on Hot Coals was a close second for me, i just feel that there is a definitive solo in Tattoo'd lady, that WOHC lacks, because its so long and improv, but amazing all the same.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Simon D on September 29, 2008, 10:40:32 PM
The full-length version of Return to Serenity, by Testament has one of the all-time epic solos. It's  searing, soulful, technical - just a fantastic piece, and for me one of the definitive lessons in structuring a solo. I think it's one of Skolnick's best performances, and I love it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QaZiVQt_c - solo kicks in at 3.20.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 29, 2008, 10:46:27 PM
The full-length version of Return to Serenity, by Testament has one of the all-time epic solos. It's  searing, soulful, technical - just a fantastic piece, and for me one of the definitive lessons in structuring a solo. I think it's one of Skolnick's best performances, and I love it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QaZiVQt_c - solo kicks in at 3.20.

That was AWESOME.

*gets to learning it*
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Simon D on September 29, 2008, 10:48:22 PM
The full-length version of Return to Serenity, by Testament has one of the all-time epic solos. It's  searing, soulful, technical - just a fantastic piece, and for me one of the definitive lessons in structuring a solo. I think it's one of Skolnick's best performances, and I love it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QaZiVQt_c - solo kicks in at 3.20.

That was AWESOME.

*gets to learning it*

Hehehe, I've been trying to learn it for the best part of 5 or 6 years. Still ain't got it, but then I'm not all that good!
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: dave_mc on September 29, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
The full-length version of Return to Serenity, by Testament has one of the all-time epic solos. It's  searing, soulful, technical - just a fantastic piece, and for me one of the definitive lessons in structuring a solo. I think it's one of Skolnick's best performances, and I love it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QaZiVQt_c - solo kicks in at 3.20.
yeah, that one kicks ass. one of my other faves in thrash is tornado of souls (megadeth/marty friedman).

will i get laughed out of court if i say lukather (specifically the solos on the toto songs hold the line and rosanna)?
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Philly Q on September 29, 2008, 10:54:39 PM
The full-length version of Return to Serenity, by Testament has one of the all-time epic solos. It's  searing, soulful, technical - just a fantastic piece, and for me one of the definitive lessons in structuring a solo. I think it's one of Skolnick's best performances, and I love it!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QaZiVQt_c - solo kicks in at 3.20.

That was AWESOME.

*gets to learning it*

That was awesome.

*Resolves to give up playing guitar.  Again.*
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: dave_mc on September 29, 2008, 10:57:48 PM
will i lose all credibility if i mention winger? you've got my back on that one, don't you philly? :lol:
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Philly Q on September 29, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
will i lose all credibility if i mention winger? you've got my back on that one, don't you philly? :lol:

Good goddamn, yes, Dave!   Reb is the man!  One of 'em, anyway.  :lol:

Let's throw Neal Schon into the mix too at this point.  I can't think of one particular solo but there are so many great ones!
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: dave_mc on September 29, 2008, 11:15:52 PM
agreed on both points. :)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2008, 11:22:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE)

More of a guilty pleasure than anything else
Kiss in their early days (1975)
Always loved the solo Ace did in this song (Kind of grew up listening to it) , and yes he was doing two handed tapping before Van Halen broke onto the scene.

Love this clip too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtajRXdTlv0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtajRXdTlv0)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 30, 2008, 12:45:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE)

More of a guilty pleasure than anything else
Kiss in their early days (1975)
Always loved the solo Ace did in this song (Kind of grew up listening to it) , and yes he was doing two handed tapping before Van Halen broke onto the scene.

Love this clip too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtajRXdTlv0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtajRXdTlv0)


Those vids were awesome Jonathon!

Makes me want to see Kiss again.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Philly Q on September 30, 2008, 01:10:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfagvcwjLyE)

More of a guilty pleasure than anything else
Kiss in their early days (1975)
Always loved the solo Ace did in this song (Kind of grew up listening to it) , and yes he was doing two handed tapping before Van Halen broke onto the scene.

How tall/skinny is Ace?  He looks like Jack Skellington in that clip!  :D
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: AndyR on September 30, 2008, 08:58:47 AM
I have to agree the Tattoo'd Lady is a fine example of Rory Gallaghers playing, but for me it was "Walk on Hot Coals" of the Irish Tour of '74 that I would pick. I still have the 33 1/3 double album that I bought in 1974 after first hearing about Rory, I was a young-gun  keyboard player back then , but Rory's guitar work blew me away. The purchase of that album in 1974 inspired no less than 20 of my freinds who are total  Die-Hard Rory fans today.

Walk on Hot Coals was a close second for me, i just feel that there is a definitive solo in Tattoo'd lady, that WOHC lacks, because its so long and improv, but amazing all the same.

Yep, in fact the whole album comes a close second :D
I first bought it in 79/80, I Wonder Who, Tattoo'd Lady, and A Million Miles Away were the ones I wore out the grooves on.

The reason I picked Tattoo'd Lady was because of the melodic "cascading" bit over the A - C#m - G#m - B section in the first solo. It sent utter shivers down my spine (and still does if I haven't listened to it for a while). And then everytime I saw him play it after that... he, er, "fell short" of my hopes!! I suspect he liked the IT 74 version as well, and was always trying to reach or better it.

Another "bit" that caused/causes similar feelings is a little section of Ritchie Blackmore's Highway Star solo on Made In Japan - nowadays I'm almost certain that it was an RB "throwaway" lick to give him some breathing space, but wow... shivers down the spine.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 30, 2008, 09:08:44 AM
...and on that note

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YuQMIeK28U
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Woogie on September 30, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Stoner metal
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 30, 2008, 03:35:18 PM
Ahh i've been caught out, sort of. I like stoner metal, but that also has a lot of soloage in it unless you mean extreme shite like Electric Wizard, i can't listen to that though. But bands like Down and The Sword love a bit of soloage in their music.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 30, 2008, 05:17:33 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Don't think there were any solos on the first 2 Mnemic albums, and I think that's some of the best metal ever written.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 30, 2008, 05:59:17 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Stoner metal

Like Clutch and Orange Goblin and Down and Sleep and Fu Manchu and QOTSA and Bongzilla and Weedeater and all those other bands with loads of solos?

Ahh i've been caught out, sort of. I like stoner metal, but that also has a lot of soloage in it unless you mean extreme shitee like Electric Wizard, i can't listen to that though. But bands like Down and The Sword love a bit of soloage in their music.

Electric Wizard have solos. In more or less every song. And aren't really extreme  :? They're just a modern Sabbath. Who I will finally see in December, provided they don't cancel AGAIN.

Do you more mean things like Sunn 0)))? That would make more sense, although I don't think of drone as at all metal, it has a lot more to do with noise and dark ambient. Ohh, genre-tastic.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: mecca777 on September 30, 2008, 06:43:22 PM
Judas Priest - "Beyond the Realms of Death"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVTDl8oiJBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVTDl8oiJBs)

Ozzy Osbourne - "Revelation (Mother Earth)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcQ9Rs487o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcQ9Rs487o)

There are dozens of other great candidates by the likes of Michael Schenker, Queensryche, GnR, Opeth, Iron Maiden and so on, but these are the first two that always occur in my mind when someone asks what my favourite solo is. Gary Moore has ripped some great solos in his time as well.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: sambo on September 30, 2008, 06:50:09 PM
I'm afraid no amount of explaining will help on this. Statements like this:


They just generally sound like a power metal band covering death metal songs to me.

...have always, and will always strike me as nonsensical. The idea that there is some sort of objective checklist of features which defines what sub-genre a band is really irritates me.


And specifically the "trying to be a [insert ridiculous sub-genre here] band" part of the original comment. I know you've already tried to explain that, but it seems what you really meant was "they share some characteristics with another band or band(s), whilst not sounding exactly the same as said band(s)". But for some reason, you've slapped some genres on to the argument and turned that into something negative. As if the fact that they happen to straddle 2 of your neat sub-genres somehow shows that they've attempted and failed to be one 'kind' of band, and so are in fact another 'kind' of band.

Do you see what I mean? :lol:

I really don't 'get' the whole thing.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: nfe on September 30, 2008, 07:19:35 PM
See if Crass were to decide to reform and be a funk band. I imagine it'd be the same result, a bunch of folk who really only know how to do one type of music trying to be something else, I just imagine it would always sound jarring, try hard and well, a bit insincere. That's what I find if I listen to Necrophagist.

That's as best as I can communicate what I mean. Oddly enough, I've said the exact same thing on extreme metal forums "A death metal band trying to be power metal" and folk have got exactly what I mean - and often agreed - straight off the bat  :lol:
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Woogie on September 30, 2008, 08:20:30 PM
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Stoner metal

Like Clutch and Orange Goblin and Down and Sleep and Fu Manchu and QOTSA and Bongzilla and Weedeater and all those other bands with loads of solos?

Ahh i've been caught out, sort of. I like stoner metal, but that also has a lot of soloage in it unless you mean extreme shiteee like Electric Wizard, i can't listen to that though. But bands like Down and The Sword love a bit of soloage in their music.

Electric Wizard have solos. In more or less every song. And aren't really extreme  :? They're just a modern Sabbath. Who I will finally see in December, provided they don't cancel AGAIN.

Do you more mean things like Sunn 0)))? That would make more sense, although I don't think of drone as at all metal, it has a lot more to do with noise and dark ambient. Ohh, genre-tastic.

Well obviously Down have SOME solos but alot of their stuff (latest stuff mainly) has no solos. Pure riffage
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on September 30, 2008, 08:25:13 PM
I quite liked Downs second album. The only one of theirs i had.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Adam.M on September 30, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
I still love the Under a Glass Moon solo a LOT.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVQP108eM4

4:50 he kicks it in

though the guitar is quiet in this one...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFnm5fkB_s louder, but no video! damn
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: sambo on September 30, 2008, 09:55:09 PM
See if Crass were to decide to reform and be a funk band. I imagine it'd be the same result, a bunch of folk who really only know how to do one type of music trying to be something else, I just imagine it would always sound jarring, try hard and well, a bit insincere. That's what I find if I listen to Necrophagist.



That makes much more sense to me. :)

Quote from: nfe
That's as best as I can communicate what I mean. Oddly enough, I've said the exact same thing on extreme metal forums "A death metal band trying to be power metal" and folk have got exactly what I mean - and often agreed - straight off the bat  :lol:

Nothing odd about that- metalheads are obsessed with compartmentalising genres!
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 30, 2008, 10:57:25 PM
I still love the Under a Glass Moon solo a LOT.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVQP108eM4

4:50 he kicks it in

though the guitar is quiet in this one...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFnm5fkB_s louder, but no video! damn

I've allways felt it was a little random :p
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Sifu Ben on September 30, 2008, 11:22:47 PM
The randomness is part of why it's cool though. Besides, he has to play like that to minimise casualties ;)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Ian Price on October 01, 2008, 09:36:09 AM
Favourite solo for me changes from time to time. Currently it is Zappa's solo on Muffin Man.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on October 01, 2008, 11:22:41 PM
Favourite solo for me changes from time to time. Currently it is Zappa's solo on Muffin Man.

Awesome song.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 02, 2008, 02:25:38 PM
More MSG - this time into the Arena (1981)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q)

Lots of solos but the one that gets me every time starts at just after 4.25 - makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Philly Q on October 02, 2008, 02:38:49 PM
More MSG - this time into the Arena (1981)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q)

Lots of solos but the one that gets me every time starts at just after 4.25 - makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

I can't play the video in work, but if it's the solo I'm thinking of it's an absolute classic.  Not just a guitar solo, it's a proper piece of music in its own right.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: gwEm on October 02, 2008, 02:55:10 PM
its a great solo indeed, but my favourite schenker solo is rock bottom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qP_OqOJ8ug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qP_OqOJ8ug)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: _tom_ on October 02, 2008, 05:25:51 PM
its a great solo indeed, but my favourite schenker solo is rock bottom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qP_OqOJ8ug (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qP_OqOJ8ug)

The strangers in the night version is truly epic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG6qoTMLrjQ
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Crazy_Joe on October 03, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
+1, Strangers in the Night is a great live album.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Muttley on October 03, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
I'm quite into Guthrie Govan at the moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCKpRzfMzU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCKpRzfMzU)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: noodleplugerine on October 04, 2008, 05:16:05 PM
I'm quite into Guthrie Govan at the moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCKpRzfMzU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCKpRzfMzU)

Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Fourth Feline on October 05, 2008, 04:22:46 PM
Whilst I admire much of the above ( especially Schenker's " Rock Bottom " from the 'Strangers In The Night' album ) - I am going to have to cite an old geezer's obvious choice - which is Dave Gilmour's live version of the second solo from the song " Comfortably Numb".  Specifically the extended version he played ( and recorded ) during the 'Pulse' tour.

For me it is not because there is anything technically fast or fearsome about it ;  but that it is emotionally epic - and he slowly but surely guides the listener along the melodic / emotive  trail like an old master ( which he is ).  :)
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Yamhammer on October 05, 2008, 07:55:15 PM
Two epic solo's from the Dutchman Chris Koerts.

He always played on that great old Black Beaty.

Earth and Fire - Memories (2:35)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W2sMWXy_4Y

Earth and Fire - Maybe tomorrow, maybe tonight (1:22)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akn3sPnKB-o
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Nolly on October 06, 2008, 10:56:04 PM
Shawn Lane's solo on Illusions. Short, but so incredibly musical. Plus has an absolutely insane picking lick thrown in.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: il˙ti on October 17, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
Good choice there, Nolly.

One I'd like to throw in is Opus Pocus by Jason Becker. It's the kind of thing where if you studied the theory behind it you'd go "there's no way this can sound natural and melodic" but Jason did it. Shawn Lane to an even higher degree of course.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: th3sku11 on October 18, 2008, 12:15:43 AM
For me i always get goosebumps listening to the first solo on La Villa Strangiato from Rush's Hemispheres album for the exact same reasons that Fourth Feline mentions for Comfortably Numb - its an emotional trip of expertly built tension and release rather than a technical display. And then there's always the unruly triumph of Page's lead work in Zep's Heartbreaker...
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: kellar on October 18, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
Whilst I admire much of the above ( especially Schenker's " Rock Bottom " from the 'Strangers In The Night' album ) - I am going to have to cite an old geezer's obvious choice - which is Dave Gilmour's live version of the second solo from the song " Comfortably Numb".  Specifically the extended version he played ( and recorded ) during the 'Pulse' tour.

For me it is not because there is anything technically fast or fearsome about it ;  but that it is emotionally epic - and he slowly but surely guides the listener along the melodic / emotive  trail like an old master ( which he is ).  :)

So glad someone mentioned that! That solo still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. Purely emotional. :D
Gilmour is the ultimate example of how clever note selection and timing can make a solo so powerful. It always kind of bothers me how these "epic solo" debates are always dominated by metal bands. I just don't see it. I find what SRV did in "Lenny" much more emotional. Oh well, to each his own. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: Muzzzz on October 18, 2008, 11:22:46 AM
How can sweep picking itself bore people? Its just a technique!

It is the same as saying "I don't like arpeggios", which is rather odd, and I think that 'not liking' sweep picking is equally odd... would one enjoy it if the same notes were played with string skipping or some other technique?

If you were to play the left hand part of a great deal piano music written in the 19th Century (which, imo, is some of the most amazing music ever) on a guitar, you'd have ridiculous amounts of sweep picking.

Its just a comment which has confused me for a while.
Title: Re: Epic solos
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 18, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
Can I put a keyboard solo on here- Billy Preston playing "Isn't It A Pity" on the Concert for George concert soundtrack.