Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: FernandoDuarte on October 01, 2008, 09:40:56 PM
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Hey guys! Warmoth neck just arrived and will fit the W body that is lying here since january from the last year...
Specs:
Alder body with Spalted Maple top
Wenge neck with Macassar Ebony fingerboard and headstock veneer, fatback.
Piledriver set and 4way switch
Glendale cold rolled steel vintage double cut bridge with compensate saddles.
What is making it take longer to get together:
I've used the four screw from the neckplate to fit the bridge, without notice :lol: So I had to order some more, as well as the pots... The ones I've now came from BKP, but they were too short for this guitar, so I ordered from Warmoth...
The nut will be made on next tuesday, when I'm going to SP in a friend's workshop to make it... Fossilized Mammoth Ivory :lol:
Also waiting for a test with super glue and epoxy over Stainless Steel to try to cover the custom neckplate draws, to help it don't rust so easy...
Here you go pictures 8)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2904837487_195067cde7.jpg?v=0)
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Hope you all enjoy, specially Roobubba :lol:
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You dog Fernando! That is gorgeous!
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Wow, amazing woods Fernando! :D
I like the look of the Glendale bridge too, I'm thinking of getting one of those sometime.
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Thanks :D
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Have you had a Fatback neck before? I like fat necks, but I wonder if it might be a bit too much?
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That looks great Fernando.
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jealous, since i'm also waiting for an ngd :(
however, top notch woods - look very nice together, very nice!
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The headstock is nasty (the shape) but i actually quite like the body on this one. I am only a selective Tele appreciator (this forum HAS changed me) but most of them are shite to my eyes. It would look miles better if there was none of that Tele bridge and pickup disgustingness on there and instead it had humbuckers. All Tele's should have humbuckers because they look shitee to begin with, but at least with humbuckers they have some redeemable qualities.
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Thanks again!!! :D
Phill, never had, but I have a LP (lend to my brother ATM) which was perhaps fatter than this one... Actually it feels not as fat as I thought it would be, but it has no strings yet, etc... But I understand you, I was under the same fear, but the closest that they have of fat (1" = 25,4mm) is the '59 which is WAY thinner on the first frets, 21.85mmm which is thinner than the Strat I've build and I feel like "model thin"... :lol: If you don't fear loose the guarantees, I would get the Fatback and if it's too fat, ask to Jonathan to re-shape it a little... I'm 99% right about it's okay, don't think the truss rod channel is different in each neck back, so this means you can go safe 'till 18.7mm at 1st fret and 20.7mm at12th fret :lol: That's the measures of their Wizard neck (should be called Pinky Witch neck)...
:D
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This certainly IS a praise from you, Opprobrium :lol:
Thanks!
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Phill, never had, but I have a LP (lend to my brother ATM) which was perhaps fatter than this one... Actually it feels not as fat as I thought it would be, but it has no strings yet, etc... But I understand you, I was under the same fear, but the closest that they have of fat (1" = 25,4mm) is the '59 which is WAY thinner on the first frets, 21.85mmm which is thinner than the Strat I've build and I feel like "model thin"... :lol: If you don't fear loose the guarantees, I would get the Fatback and if it's too fat, ask to Jonathan to re-shape it a little... I'm 99% right about it's okay, don't think the truss rod channel is different in each neck back, so this means you can go safe 'till 18.7mm at 1st fret and 20.7mm at12th fret :lol: That's the measures of their Wizard neck (should be called Pinky Witch neck)...
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Yeah, I was considering the '59 or SRV shapes. I don't mind if the neck is thin near the nut, but I like it to be fat at the 12th fret - more of a tapered shape, rather than all the same thickness. Then again, I don't really mind any shape, as long as it's rounded - I don't like a flat back or, at the other extreme, a hard V shape.
I'm really having trouble deciding on this neck! :x :lol:
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Get the '59 :D It's about .5mm thicker in the nut...
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This certainly IS a praise from you, Opprobrium :lol:
Thanks!
:lol: - its as good as its gonna get where Teles are concerned :wink:
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i really like that! it reminds me that i have a couple of mac ebony blanks here big enough for 1 piece necks
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Nice one Fernando, do you have a picture of the back of the neck? I'm guessing that's a Warmoth Pro, personally I would have gone for a vintage modern as I love skunk stripes, but not everyone agrees 8)
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I thought I'd chime in to offer all the praise I can:
Some nice woods there, Fernando!
That's all I've got I'm afraid, the hardware and especially the shape of it really is hideous, but hey, you knew that when you bought it! ;) It even gives you a clue: "Nonsense Tele" !!
EDIT: Actually, those woods aren't "nice", they're bloody gorgeous!
Roo
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That is looking very tasty Fernando.
I usually have reservations about this spalted business, always seems to look "diseased" to me , but this one looks pretty :D
It looks like you're going for no pickguard or control plate? I'd feel naked without those - hope you're not just leaving them off in an effort to build a tele that Roo might like!! :lol:
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I'm guessing that's a Warmoth Pro, personally I would have gone for a vintage modern as I love skunk stripes, but not everyone agrees 8)
Yeah, it's a Pro, you can see the side truss rod adjuster (I spend too much time on the Warmoth site :wink: :oops: ).
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Yeah, it's a Pro, you can see the side truss rod adjuster (I spend too much time on the Warmoth site :wink: :oops: ).
:lol: That's it! Looks better the Pro to me...
Wez, you bugger! Show a picture to us! (I'm sure you'll get at least one quote from guitar after the picture :D)
Thanks Roo, I knew you'd love it... But I'm not going to sell it to you, as you asked me on a PM :twisted: :lol:
Andy, I'm leaving it as it is, just because I hate pickguards and control plates in exotic woods :D
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Nice one Fernando, do you have a picture of the back of the neck?
I'm on work now, when I get in home I'll take some pics of the back!
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Thanks Roo, I knew you'd love it... But I'm not going to sell it to you, as you asked me on a PM :twisted: :lol:
:o :o :o
tell us more!!
... oh, it's a joke :lol:
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Andy, I'm leaving it as it is, just because I hate pickguards and control plates in exotic woods :D
I would have to agree with you fully there. Not only are Tele pickguards obnoxious and disgusting, but you have such beautiful woods on that guitar it would really wreck the continuity, and, to be honest, you would just have too much going on in one guitar (i.e. - it would become VERY tacky VERY fast). So, good call on that one.
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Andy, I'm leaving it as it is, just because I hate pickguards and control plates in exotic woods :D
I would have to agree with you fully there. Not only are Tele pickguards obnoxious and disgusting, but you have such beautiful woods on that guitar it would really wreck the continuity, and, to be honest, you would just have too much going on in one guitar (i.e. - it would become VERY tacky VERY fast). So, good call on that one.
Yeah, makes perfect sense when you've got a cute piece of wood not to hide half of it- we'll have to disagree on the state of tele pickguards though!! :lol:
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Thanks Roo, I knew you'd love it... But I'm not going to sell it to you, as you asked me on a PM :twisted: :lol:
Hahaha! People are looking at me funny after I burst out laughing at this in the office :D
Roo
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Thanks Roo, I knew you'd love it... But I'm not going to sell it to you, as you asked me on a PM :twisted: :lol:
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tell us more!!
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Roo: ;)
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I WANT !
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excellent!
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Very nice! I want one now... lol
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Thanks guys!!! :D
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here is my mac ebony neck blanks... really i suppose its got to be used for 1 piece necks
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/XL804260.jpg)
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^ People will think I'm strange, but those look kind of "edible" in that picture Wez :D
I've never come across a piece of wood in real life that makes me want to start munching, but every now and then a photo of woods on here triggers some sort of munchies...
They look really, er, tasty :lol:
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here is my mac ebony neck blanks... really i suppose its got to be used for 1 piece necks
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/XL804260.jpg)
SICKNESS!!!!!!!!
I want a Macassar Ebony neck!!
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Very nice. Interesting neckplate! I have all the different shapes in Warmoth necks and they vary a bit with the nut width. My favourites are the Clapton, SRV and Wolfgang, though the standards are nice too.
Wez - they look great - but are they heavy?
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Wez, just PLEASE don't make a ****ing telecaster with those mac ebony "necks".... Seriously, such nice wood should not be wasted on such a totally lame body shape!!!!
It's a bit like old fat men with bad facial hair (mentioning no Chemistry department heads at Oxford's names) driving Jaguar XKRs - it simply should not happen!
Roo
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^ People will think I'm strange, but those look kind of "edible" in that picture Wez :D
I've never come across a piece of wood in real life that makes me want to start munching, but every now and then a photo of woods on here triggers some sort of munchies...
They look really, er, tasty :lol:
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Wez, didn't I tell you? Just talk with Opprobrium and he will get one :D
Seriously, it's AWESOME wood you get there? Came from Larry?
I just would use as an entire neck... well, I'm would want mooooore fatness, would use in back wenge, rosewood, bubinga, something alike... But there is people that would die for it 8)
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Nice one Fernando, do you have a picture of the back of the neck?
I'm on work now, when I get in home I'll take some pics of the back!
As promised:
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Crikey, that looks amazing! Does it need a finish, or can you leave it as bare wood?
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Wenge doesn't need a finish, as Rosewood, Bubinga, Canary, Ebony, Ziricote............ :D
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That looks excellent! Very nice woods, well chosen combination as well.
Wez (or anyone else that knows): Does Macassar ebony have the same tonal attributes as the other ebony species?
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That looks excellent! Very nice woods, well chosen combination as well.
Wez (or anyone else that knows): Does Macassar ebony have the same tonal attributes as the other ebony species?
Yes!
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mac ebonu is a good wood. Its not liek the pure black ebony that stends to be a bit brittle - its actually much more like a rosewood because its not the extreme that gaboon ebony is... some people will tell you its just like brazilian rosewood - personally i am not going to jump on that band wagon........ but it is ;) As phil says, its a little heavy so will make a heavy neck but that should be fine as long as its paired with an aproppriate body... anything with the strap button at 16th fret or less should work fine
i like the wenge neck you have fernando.. but that run out on the headstock looks a bit drastic - but i trust warmoth so i am sure its ok. I like wenge with the minimal finshes... a rub down with wax works best
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Hummm never played it before (also the guitar is not finished), but never heard about this Wez... completely new to me, always been told that the only difference is the color :?
And from where came your Macassars? :D
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Wez, just PLEASE don't make a ****ing telecaster with those mac ebony "necks".... Seriously, such nice wood should not be wasted on such a totally lame body shape!!!!
It's a bit like old fat men with bad facial hair (mentioning no Chemistry department heads at Oxford's names) driving Jaguar XKRs - it simply should not happen!
Roo
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: - i do have to agree on that one
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dude, this one's kick ass! finally, your tele has arrived!
and I can tell you, wenge feels great, ziricote feels great, mac.eb. feels great... and guys, just wait what I have in store for my following projects!
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Orpheo has some nice stuff from Warmoth! 8)
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Speaking of Warmoths and Macassar Ebony necks, check out this beauty:
http://www.warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guitar_necks.cfm?itemnumber=wn688
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i like the wenge neck you have fernando.. but that run out on the headstock looks a bit drastic - but i trust warmoth so i am sure its ok.
Sorry Wez, I don't understand that bit. :?
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Hummm never played it before (also the guitar is not finished), but never heard about this Wez... completely new to me, always been told that the only difference is the color :?
And from where came your Macassars? :D
the macasser ebony came from a guy on a forum along with two huge planks of flamed korina and two extremely large matching mac ebony fretboard blanks... hmm.. perfect for a doubleneck!! all perfect ly quarter sawn.
Mac ebony feels like the black stuff but has a slightly warmer sound. halfway between the black ebony and a rosewood is a good generalistaion of the sound.. its also more suitable for 1-piece necks because its more stable than the black stuff and available in bigger pieces.
Runout is a term used for describing wood. if refers to the grain running diagonally from the front face to the back face. If you look at the side of fernando's headstock you can see it quite clearly. Its sometimes hard to detect but quite clear on those photos. Shoudlnt be a problem on wenge. Run out is really important if you make acoustics. Thin wood plates with lots of run out are a lot weaker than ones with no run out.
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/General/Glossary/Runout/runout.html
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Runout is a term used for describing wood. if refers to the grain running diagonally from the front face to the back face. If you look at the side of fernando's headstock you can see it quite clearly. Its sometimes hard to detect but quite clear on those photos. Shoudlnt be a problem on wenge. Run out is really important if you make acoustics. Thin wood plates with lots of run out are a lot weaker than ones with no run out.
http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/General/Glossary/Runout/runout.html
8) Cheers Wez, never heard of that before. Is it something to look out for on, say, a maple neck, or would it not be an issue because of the totally different grain structure?
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run out can seriously affect stiffness of any wood. if you have ever had a neck that seemed a bit bendy it was probably due to some run out. but it is hard to spot and hard to see if it will be a problem. i would except a bit more in wenge than i would maple or mahogany
have a think about a gibson style 1 piece mahogany neck for a second. If you have a really good neck blank the grain will be running straight from one end to the other. Great for the neck sectionbut not so good for the headstock as the angle its cut at will cut through all the grain creating runout on that face... then what happens to the gibson headstock?
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have a think about a gibson style 1 piece mahogany neck for a second. If you have a really good neck blank the grain will be running straight from one end to the other. Great for the neck section but not so good for the headstock as the angle its cut at will cut through all the grain creating runout on that face... then what happens to the gibson headstock?
Is that one of the reasons Gibsons so frequently get neck/headstock breaks? Presumably also why they use the holly or fibreboard (or whatever it is) veneer on the face of the headstock.
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its the reason gibson necks often snap where they do, right on the headstock. Obviously a good scarf join takes care of that but they have a bad reputation because they often break on cheaper guitars. to me a good scarf is better than a one-piece neck but i prefer laminating my necks anyway which helps to solve the issue. Veneering the front helps a little but i bet gibson mainly did it for aesthetics, veneering front and back is good - especially if you have already had a break
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Completely agreed with the grain running out of the strenght... but as it's fender headstock I didn't got worried to much... if it was an angled headstock, I would be waaaaay more :D Also the Fatback shall help, as it's 1" thick, or it's keep a straight line from the headstock to the pocket, thru the back of the neck...