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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 03:37:03 PM

Title: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320306782084 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320306782084)

i'm a member of the steinberger world forum. one of the guys there has knocked up six of these beauties. the raw graphite composite finish is well cool!

bit expensive though.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gingataff on October 03, 2008, 03:44:25 PM
Nice idea but no Trans-trem so I'm not interested in buying it :P
I've got a lot of respect for the graphite Steinbergers, I think they were a great design but just too expensive in the long run and became watered down.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: Ben_W on October 03, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
Agreed. It's a nice idea. but not my cup of tea really, he's done a good job though.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 03:51:18 PM
no trans-trem, but a company in korea is remaking the s-trem in an improved form:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JCUSTOM-XS-TREM_W0QQitemZ310081887681 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JCUSTOM-XS-TREM_W0QQitemZ310081887681)

next is planned a trans-trem replacement
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gingataff on October 03, 2008, 03:55:15 PM
He's obviously tried to fit a bit of Klein into the design (i.e. the built in leg rest) but I think it looks a little uncomfortable to play, it seems like you'd need a classical foot rest to get your leg high enough for a natural playing position. I'm sure it would be fine on a strap though.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 04:10:12 PM
its true the bottom edge seems moderne/klein inspired gingataff, though the guy in the pictures seems comfortable enough. however, its not a beautiful look, though its cool in a functional utalitarian way

i'm really curious about it. feline's been working on something quite cool for me for the past few months, but his paint guys seem to be taking their own sweet time :? seems a lifetime ago when i first started to get the bits. anyway, i'd like to try that before i ponder on if this is worth the (rather significant) expense.

the guy who makes them also does fixed bridges for steinbergers, i've a couple of them - quite well made.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: Crazy_Joe on October 03, 2008, 04:25:01 PM
Is someone really going to buy that for $1,900.00?!
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 04:34:31 PM
Is someone really going to buy that for $1,900.00?!

i'd like to quote what twilight odyssey would say - watch it go - but the time left on the auction is quite low.

if the exchange rate would be 2->1 i'd be thinking about it for £950 - would still be more expensive than i'd want to pay though, but it seemed like i could work out a deal with the guy, supplying my own pickups and so on, to get a cheaper price. with the exchange rate as it is, i'll likely pass on it.

hes already sold one to japan. a real steinberger gl would be more expensive, but maybe not that much more (but you'd have to be very lucky), trust me real steinberger GLs get snapped up for big $$ by private collectors. wish i'd be in the position to do the same - i'll just have to make do with all maple korean copies... which to be fair have treated me very well so far.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gingataff on October 03, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
I think the price is pretty fair for the materials and labour. One of the secrets about the old Steinbergers is that they're hollow, even the necks!
This seems to have been missed in all the subsequent headless rehashes. It obviously adds a huge amount of resonance to what it otherwise a small amount of body and neck real estate. Personally I'd love an original GL, not because it's a rare classic guitar, but because its a good guitar. It's yet another example of rich collectors forcing less well off players out of the market. :sigh:
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: gwEm on October 03, 2008, 04:49:14 PM
I think the price is pretty fair for the materials and labour.
unfortunately, you're right, its a reasonably fair price. i hope he makes a go of it, since hes knowledgeable and good to deal with. too bad about the exchange rate.

...Personally I'd love an original GL, not because it's a rare classic guitar, but because its a good guitar. It's yet another example of rich collectors forcing less well off players out of the market. :sigh:
and again... unfortunately you're right
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: Philly Q on October 03, 2008, 04:57:36 PM
I'm not really keen on the look of that guitar, but like gingataff I would like an original carbon-graphite Steinberger. 

The new Synapse ones with wooden bodies seem like an attempt to appeal to more "traditional" players, but they're neither one thing nor the other.  A bit cr@p really.
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: opprobrium_9 on October 03, 2008, 10:21:50 PM
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW :?
Title: Re: custom made axe, fully graphite, like steinberger gl
Post by: bobthemerciful on October 04, 2008, 11:51:10 AM
I think the price is pretty fair for the materials and labour. One of the secrets about the old Steinbergers is that they're hollow, even the necks!
This seems to have been missed in all the subsequent headless rehashes. It obviously adds a huge amount of resonance to what it otherwise a small amount of body and neck real estate. Personally I'd love an original GL, not because it's a rare classic guitar, but because its a good guitar. It's yet another example of rich collectors forcing less well off players out of the market. :sigh:

Was never aware they were hollow  :o. I first saw one on Top of the Pops, some guy was using one of their basses. I remember thinking, that can't be real, and not liking it (visually).
Some time after, I was at a guitar show in london. Came across a crowd round a guy who was obviously standing on something, as he was about 2ft taller than everyone surrounding him. To cut a long story short, Ned Steinberger was talking about the construction and strength of his basses, whilst standing halfway up the fretboard of one balanced between two chairs!! He then got off it and played it to demonstrate  it still being perfectly in tune!!!!

Impressed me enough to try several of his instruments, but sadly could never afford a proper one. Transtrem is a work of genius, tho I think setting one up from scratch could take a while....................
As well as the collectors thing, I think Gibson are partly to blame for why we don't see em. They seem to be trying to become the microsoft of the guitar world, buy out any competitor, then leave em to fester in a corner and die. Did it with Trace Elliot too, tho they seem have escaped their clutches now.
Tis annoying to me that perfectly good instruments of all types are languishing in display cases rather than being played, but sh*t happens I spose :(