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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Yamhammer on October 05, 2008, 09:56:55 PM

Title: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Yamhammer on October 05, 2008, 09:56:55 PM

Title says it all...

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: badgermark on October 05, 2008, 11:31:02 PM

When i was looking for a humbucker like that tim said the Crawler was more vintage voiced, while the HD more modern. I took that as the HD having a bit more cut whereas the crawler is fat and thick. I went for the HD, and it's fat, but still cuts through.

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Philly Q on October 05, 2008, 11:50:12 PM

I've only owned one of the two, but I've always been under the impression that the Crawler is like a super-powered PAF (more vintage voiced, as badgermark says) whereas the Holydiver has both feet in the hard rock/metal camp, without being a full-on mega-output screamer.

In my LP the Crawler was very fat with a real growl to the tone.  My impression is that the HD is also a fattie, with lots of low mids but, perhaps, a smoother, somewhat clearer tone(?)

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Yamhammer on October 06, 2008, 04:46:10 PM

Mm, ok...I'm still not completely convinced, but the Crawler might be indeed the more vintage sounding pickup of the two. Maybe the Crawler has slightly more mids also...

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Philly Q on October 06, 2008, 11:26:48 PM

It's been said elsewhere that the HD has more low-mids and the Crawler has more mid-mids.  Make of that what you will.

Remember the Crawler is Geoff Whitehorn's signature model.  He's a blues-rock guy, nowhere near metal territory.

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Will on October 06, 2008, 11:31:04 PM

The Holy Diver has quite aggressive low mids (not Painkiller agressive though, just quite strong), I imagine the Crawler has sweet middle mids

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: WezV on October 07, 2008, 08:07:07 AM

Quote from: badgermark on October 05, 2008, 11:31:02 PM

When i was looking for a humbucker like that tim said the Crawler was more vintage voiced, while the HD more modern. I took that as the HD having a bit more cut whereas the crawler is fat and thick. I went for the HD, and it's fat, but still cuts through.

i have both and thats pretty much my experience

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Yamhammer on October 07, 2008, 08:30:29 AM

Thanks for all the help guys, nice work! 

Title: Re: Crawler vs Holydiver?
Post by: Antag on October 07, 2008, 10:21:18 AM

Quote from: WezV on October 07, 2008, 08:07:07 AM

Quote from: badgermark on October 05, 2008, 11:31:02 PM

When i was looking for a humbucker like that tim said the Crawler was more vintage voiced, while the HD more modern. I took that as the HD having a bit more cut whereas the crawler is fat and thick. I went for the HD, and it's fat, but still cuts through.

i have both and thats pretty much my experience

My only experience of the Crawler was in one of Tim's LPs at LGS07, but I'd agree with that analysis.

The Crawler wasn't as powerful as the HD & seemed to have a more "rounded" top end.