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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Johnny Mac on October 25, 2008, 11:57:10 AM
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I saw a whole page advert in the paper yesterday saying Gn'R are to release the long awaited album next month.
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And Dr Pepper are going to give away a can of their "tasty" fizzy beverage to everyone in America (except Slash and Buckethead) if the album actually does appear this year.
I can't decide what I think about this; in a way I was hoping it would never get released. It's been a hell of a long time coming - I was still in my twenties last time Gn'R released something - but how can it not be underwhelming, unless it's the greatest recording ever made?
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I know what you mean Philly. I did see an interview with Slash and he said the albums good, but he could be taking the piss!
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If it ever does come out, it will most likely be cr@p. And it's not really GnR it's Axl with assorted musicians.
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I hate to say it but i love what i've heard of it on youtube.
And i hate GNR
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If it ever does come out, it will most likely be cr@p. And it's not really GnR it's Axl with assorted musicians.
I know what you mean but some of those musicians are crazy good though. ;)
Say, is Bumblefoot still with them?
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Dr Pepper are giving away a can to every american xD
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The new song is on Radio 1 right now, its pretty $%&#ing awful. It's kinda like velvet revolver with a shitee singer, unncecessary lead guitar fills all the time and lesser riffage.
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I have to admit, I didn't get GnR when they came out, and I just do not understand why they seem to have achieved some sort of legendary status based on their rather minimal output (when compared to the bands they appear to be copies of - I'm talking about volume of work, numbers of people played to, quality of work, longevity, etc, etc).
Eg I just watched the last episode of the BBC2 guitar documentary thingy on tape, and good ole Slash is wheeled out as usual, and the impression the general public are given is that in the general scheme of things he's a big gun and GnR are a major part of rock and roll history... are they really? What am I missing? My recollection of the time is that Bon Jovi, for example, were somewhat more ubiquitous (and successful? don't know the figures)... There did seem to be a lot of youngsters picking up guitar because of Slash a few years later - so that's a good "influencing" qualification for him to be in the BBC2 show, I'll give him that much, but I'm still perplexed...
I have Appetite lurking in my CD collection somewhere, have done for 5-6 years because I thought I ought to give it a go - all those millions of fans can't have been wrong, can they?... But as open-minded as I am about most things, every time I try it, I find it utterly unlistenable...
As far as I can make out, the GnR "legend" seems to have been even more media-generated than most rock legends...
Of course, this is all personal opinion... :lol:
Perhaps someone can put me right... but I'm not losing any sleep over "new album or not"...
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Huh?
Has Hell finally frozen over?
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in a way I was hoping it would never get released. It's been a hell of a long time coming - I was still in my twenties last time Gn'R released something - but how can it not be underwhelming, unless it's the greatest recording ever made?
Me too Philly, i was hoping it would never be released. That way i can continue to make jokes about it.
From what ive heard of Shacklars Revenge, this will be a download first then, MAYBE buy it if its good, otherwise, recyle bin, then oblivion.
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I'm thinking about not even listening to it out of principle, hehe.
I don't much like Axle Rose.
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I don't much like Axle Rose.
I think that might be my problem - I tried listening to Appetite last night, it's the bloke's voice I have trouble with :lol:
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I just listened to the new song, thought it was horrible. I can't stand Axle Rose. It doesn't surprise me that it has taken Chinese Democracy so long to come out. Nobody wants to work with the ass.
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Yeah, it's not G'n R, its Axel and other people. And yeah, its terrible, at least from what i have heard on myspace; it is approaching "why the fvck was this made?" territory.
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It's weird because so many people have come and gone over the 15(?) years this was in progress - just thinking of the guitarists, they had Paul Huge/Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Richard Fortus, Zakk Wylde for about 5 minutes, Ron Thal... probably others I've forgotten.
When they started this record Grunge was still going, Nu Metal has come and gone, there were stories that they were doing material with Industrial influences, Axl seemed to have a bit of a Hip Hop phase (unless I was hallucinating).... ironically the kind of sleazy hard rock the band originally did has made a bit of a comeback...
I wonder how much stuff they recorded and abandoned, or is it just a big awkward mishmash of different styles?
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It's weird because so many people have come and gone over the 15(?) years this was in progress - just thinking of the guitarists, they had Paul Huge/Tobias, Robin Finck, Buckethead, Richard Fortus, Zakk Wylde for about 5 minutes, Ron Thal... probably others I've forgotten.
When they started this record Grunge was still going, Nu Metal has come and gone, there were stories that they were doing material with Industrial influences, Axl seemed to have a bit of a Hip Hop phase (unless I was hallucinating).... ironically the kind of sleazy hard rock the band originally did has made a bit of a comeback...
I wonder how much stuff they recorded and abandoned, or is it just a big awkward mishmash of different styles?
So basically you are saying that this record should be EPIC!! :lol: :lol:
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Hmm, maybe Epic like a big, sprawling, bloated, misguided movie.... Heaven's Gate perhaps?
(Great quote re that film: "It fails so completely that you might suspect Mr. Cimino sold his soul to obtain the success of The Deer Hunter and the Devil has just come around to collect." )
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it might be good...i mean 15 years of pressure on you should push you to do it right....but the radio track..is yeah...god awful, cool solos..but ehh
i just think he may have forgotten what the idea was through the years...not just with the album, but with the whole idea behind why he was ever making music... he may just be some totally belligerent animal without a clue, trying to hear the ideas in his head over the thimble guitar solo he's paying 50 grand an hour for.
i have to say, i'm sure the actual musicianship is top notch on most of the tracks..but as for Axl...
go back to pumping gas then come out with an album cause at least when you were doing it that way it was waay $%&#ing better..ok i've vented 8)
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I don't know about the album but I just hope Axl Rose has sorted those skin tight white shorts out, the ones that looks like he borrowed them off a twelve year old girl. With todays large screen televisions and the probability that he is bloated from bourbon, that could prove a particularily disturbing shot from the front stage camera.
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I dunno, is 15 years really too long to make a record? :lol: :lol: :shock:
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I know what you mean but some of those musicians are crazy good though.
But how many Crazy good musicians just can't write a song to save their lives?
I'll wait but I'm not holding my breath for any form of brilliance.
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I dunno, is 15 years really too long to make a record? :lol: :lol: :shock:
That's how long it took to make Traced in Air by Cynic... Which is absolutely phenomenal... So no :P
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from a personal perspective i always find the best songs are the ones that come to you in minutes.
Agonising over structure and continually fiddling with parts always seems to end up sounding worse than the original idea.
I'd love to hear the very first versions for comparisons sake!
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from a personal perspective i always find the best songs are the ones that come to you in minutes.
Agonising over structure and continually fiddling with parts always seems to end up sounding worse than the original idea.
I'd love to hear the very first versions for comparisons sake!
I'd like to hear the finished version this year. I'm thirsty for a Dr. Pepper.
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I know what you mean but some of those musicians are crazy good though.
But how many Crazy good musicians just can't write a song to save their lives?
I'll wait but I'm not holding my breath for any form of brilliance.
Maybe you're right, I'll probably get more enjoyment out of youtubing bumblefoot than waiting for this record to come out.
Now this is just a random thought, but wouldn't GnR have been better if he was always with them?
His version of november rain is brilliant, and he seemed to have came up with it just during axl's stage tantrums(there were a lot).
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Well, I've just given this album a first listen.
I like it.
If you forget the hype, the fifteen years, and just think of it as an AR solo album, it's pretty good, I think.
Some of it really reminded me of Alice In Chains' Dirt album. I think it's the layered vocals and quite grungy guitars.
Mark.
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i've heard some of it, cos it was in the credits of the movie Body of Lies... and it was AWFUL!
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I loved it on first listen and now it's grown on me even more. Totally unexpected.
I agree that we should think of it as an Axl solo album. It's not GnR, but neither was any of the uninspired pap Slash has turned out in recent years.
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i've heard some of it, cos it was in the credits of the movie Body of Lies... and it was AWFUL!
:lol:
Horses for courses, ain't it?
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I'm probably too deaf to hear the vocal range of Axl so I quite like this album. While we're talking about this album, any recommendations?
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I'm probably too deaf to hear the vocal range of Axl so I quite like this album. While we're talking about this album, any recommendations?
Yep, never try to snog a camel.
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I loved it on first listen and now it's grown on me even more. Totally unexpected.
I agree that we should think of it as an Axl solo album. It's not GnR, but neither was any of the uninspired pap Slash has turned out in recent years.
well, the 2nd solo album of slashs' is quite good. the first one is too stoner rock/boring, but the 2nd one is pretty good straight up rock.