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Title: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 01, 2008, 06:33:36 PM
I've been recording with my new baby!

Learn To Fly By The Foo fighters

Rebel Yell Bridge Pick Up In A Feline Lion Guitar. Koch Powertone II Amp Channel 2 Gain 5, Presance 6 Bass And Midrange 10, Treble 8 Mid Shift +, Reverb 1. Telenordia Compressor set about half way. Sonic Maximiser Lo Contour and Process at 12 o clock. Direct out via Loadbox into EMU 1820 Audio Interface and into Cubase VST.

Hope you like it. I got carried away with multi tracking!


EDIT Here's the same track but with vocals from an online collab' added by Greeny from Songcrafters.org I think he did a superb job using a MBR.

http://soundcloud.com/johnnymac1965/learn-to-fly-foo-fighters-cover
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Antag on November 01, 2008, 06:48:29 PM
Yes, I like it  - nice one :)
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: FernandoDuarte on November 01, 2008, 06:56:47 PM
Nice tone! :D
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: _tom_ on November 01, 2008, 07:05:02 PM
Sounds great, I love this song :) I find the RYs a bit too 80s sounding for me but you're making them work well. Seems like the maple cap helps with the problem I had - was a bit too congested sounding in the mids (or lack of a better description) when playing chords, thats in an all mahogany guitar.
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 01, 2008, 07:13:08 PM
Thanks for the feedback!  :D

Tom, i did tweek the amp a lot to get the tone. I backed the presence right off, which I should have done with a lot of my recordings. I played the Koch Head Through a Marshal 1960 4X12 the other night and it sounds like a different amp! Great in a different way, very Marshally.
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 01, 2008, 07:25:15 PM
Sounded great Johnny. I love that song. Was singing away to it whilst Mrs 38th was trying to watch "Strictly".
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 01, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
Sounded great Johnny. I love that song. Was singing away to it whilst Mrs 38th was trying to watch "Strictly".

Thanks Steve

 :lol: :lol: That image made me laugh!
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: sgmypod on November 02, 2008, 11:18:59 AM
Nice..was the drums..and extra's a backing track?
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 02, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Nice..was the drums..and extra's a backing track?

Cheers  :D

Yes a downloaded one.
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: gwEm on November 02, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
the rebel yells sound really excellent in your clip!
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 04, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
the rebel yells sound really excellent in your clip!

Thanks gwEm!  :D
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Ian Price on November 04, 2008, 09:03:07 PM
Sounds great!
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 20, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
BUMP

Now with Vocals  :)

http://soundcloud.com/johnnymac1965/learn-to-fly-foo-fighters-cover
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: gordiji on July 21, 2010, 03:54:21 PM
good job johnny, great sounding guitar.
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: MDV on July 21, 2010, 04:41:55 PM
As I said over at songcrafters - great work, well played, well mixed, very close to the original sound (which isnt easy), very well done. And this is from years ago and with your old gear! What you were doing then was way ahead of what I was doing then! I hope to see some even better stuff from you in the (near!) future!

As I didnt say over at songcrafters cos there was no nice or constructive way to say it; that singer dude aint too hot, and imo it steps on the track; too loud, poorly recorded, not well blended with the track, weak and unacceptably flawed performance and it generally brings the quality level down.

Sorry dude, I know you like the vocal he did, but your mix was much better and the whole thing sounded much more professional befiore it was added.
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: roland_rat on July 21, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
Very good job.  Great tone you got it just  right for that song!
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on July 21, 2010, 06:31:57 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/PICT0056.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/johnny-mac-lion.jpg)

Here she is again........
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 21, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
Ohh look my sexy guitar smouldering at me from my tasty iMac screen! Phroarww

Yeah point taken Mark with the vocals. I liked them as he did put a lot of gusto into it as you can hear his voice breaking towards the end. Yes he was too loud in the mix but I don't know any of those guys yet and didn't want to be too critical. From reading other posts, he is new to vocals I think. It was done on a Boss MBR. I just felt a bit flattered that he liked it enough to have a go.
You're a proper producer now Mark, "weak and unacceptably flawed performance", although as a producer you have to be like that.  :wink: I would be ruthless if I had more skill at this and was doing it for money.

I do remember a bit about this when i recorded it and working towards getting the tone right before the recored button was pressed. But if I'm honest I think I may have got lucky getting that sound like the original. It has caught me out a few times when my ipods on shuffle as I realise its me and not them. Yeah how sad I'm I, listening to myself on my iPod haha!

Every day now something else becomes a little bit clearer with this lark. I could quite easily use all my holidays up if I had any to spare sitting here trying things out. With a big pot of coffee, 24 hours a pop.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Feline Lion With Rebel Yells. Learn To Fly By Foo's
Post by: MDV on July 21, 2010, 08:52:58 PM
Steady mate! Chicken and egg - I've been an anal bar-steward about sound for some time now! (small time 'local' just starting out, giving it a try!) 'producer' -> anal about sound or the other way round? Hmmmmm :lol:

I suppose context matters - it wasnt really a serious attempt at 'proper' performance and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he can do better with some picky bar-steward like me (or preferably better) putting up a decent setup for him and going 'again, but this time think about coming in a bit more confidently, and keeping breathing under control' or 'again, but try and really focus on pitch' or some other ego-cushioning thing that you have to do with poor delicate singers :lol: (guitarists I've recorded have been quite receptive to 'again, but this time without sucking!')

I know what you mean; sometimes the planets align and it works, sometimes its a $%&#ing bloodbath trying to get things to sound how you want them to. Its great when it just $%&#ing happens.

I think you got skills though, and am glad that you have the will and means to pursue it, if not the time, cos youre better at it than you let on!