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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: fbloke on November 04, 2008, 06:14:08 PM

Title: Fading your finish
Post by: fbloke on November 04, 2008, 06:14:08 PM
Does anyone know if it's possible to accelerate the fading of the finish on your guitar's top?  I've got a heritage cherry sunburst Les Paul that I'd really like to mellow the reds and yellows out on.  How can this be achieved?
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Philly Q on November 04, 2008, 06:25:43 PM
I believe it's UV that causes the fading, so leaving it exposed to daylight would do the trick.  Red seems to fade faster than other colours.

Don't leave it in a window in direct sunlight though, it can get pretty hot which won't do the guitar any good!
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Will on November 04, 2008, 06:41:06 PM
Reading through the LP forum, they say something about it messing with the wax potting of your pickups.
Some of them over there put them on their (TEXAS!!!) roof all day long (just waiting for a bird to take aim)
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: indysmith on November 04, 2008, 06:48:59 PM
What about a UV light...?
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Philly Q on November 04, 2008, 06:54:37 PM
Reading through the LP forum, they say something about it messing with the wax potting of your pickups.
Some of them over there put them on their (TEXAS!!!) roof all day long (just waiting for a bird to take aim)

I guess the metal covers (or even black open coils) could get hot enough to melt the wax - look how hot a car gets sitting in the sun on a warm day.

But isn't it possible to get a UV lamp which isn't necessarily hot?  Being as pale as a ghost it's not something I know much about.

As another way of mellowing the finish, I remember one of the guitarists from Kix used to hang his guitars in a shed with cigarettes burning on the floor under them - to simulate the nicotine-staining from years playing in smoky clubs.    
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: CJ on November 04, 2008, 07:59:19 PM
Reading through the LP forum, they say something about it messing with the wax potting of your pickups.
Some of them over there put them on their (TEXAS!!!) roof all day long (just waiting for a bird to take aim)


As another way of mellowing the finish, I remember one of the guitarists from Kix used to hang his guitars in a shed with cigarettes burning on the floor under them - to simulate the nicotine-staining from years playing in smoky clubs.    


it should get nice and faded when the whole shed burns down...
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: indysmith on November 04, 2008, 07:59:46 PM
Reading through the LP forum, they say something about it messing with the wax potting of your pickups.
Some of them over there put them on their (TEXAS!!!) roof all day long (just waiting for a bird to take aim)


As another way of mellowing the finish, I remember one of the guitarists from Kix used to hang his guitars in a shed with cigarettes burning on the floor under them - to simulate the nicotine-staining from years playing in smoky clubs.   


it should get nice and faded when the whole shed burns down...
Haha I'd love to hear him explaining that to the insurance man.
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Matt77 on November 04, 2008, 09:28:11 PM
But isn't it possible to get a UV lamp which isn't necessarily hot?  Being as pale as a ghost it's not something I know much about.

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As an ex potato farmer I can say yes there is such a UV lamp. Farmers use them to get seed spuds to grow sprouts in preparation for planting.

I'm sure someone used to have a picture somewhere on that Les Paul forum of a guitar on a sunbed with a pair of shades on.

Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Jonny on November 04, 2008, 09:31:02 PM
You could position it in such a way that you get the late evening sun, so seeing as it's close to Winter you won't get extreme exposure but possibly enough?
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: WezV on November 04, 2008, 09:34:51 PM
the old ones with the most fading were usually the ones from the shop windows
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: CJ on November 04, 2008, 09:47:39 PM
i like this idea of the UV lights. you could even mark off areas with tape or something so that you could write things on your guitar without actually writing anything. or you could make different symbols, etc...
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: TheDev01dOne on November 05, 2008, 12:30:23 AM
Would it be like the UV lights at bowling aleys that make your socks glow? They aren't hot but I guess the UV is maybe enough on it's own to fade the finish..

Maybe dismantle the whole guitar and just stick the body/neck in a sunbed or something for hours.. No problems with the pickups or hardware then..
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: CJ on November 05, 2008, 01:06:09 AM
Would it be like the UV lights at bowling aleys that make your socks glow? They aren't hot but I guess the UV is maybe enough on it's own to fade the finish..

Maybe dismantle the whole guitar and just stick the body/neck in a sunbed or something for hours.. No problems with the pickups or hardware then..

that would just be a black light?
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: TheDev01dOne on November 05, 2008, 03:45:50 AM
Would it be like the UV lights at bowling aleys that make your socks glow? They aren't hot but I guess the UV is maybe enough on it's own to fade the finish..

Maybe dismantle the whole guitar and just stick the body/neck in a sunbed or something for hours.. No problems with the pickups or hardware then..

that would just be a black light?

Ah different thing then, I always figured they were UV lights for some reason.
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: CJ on November 05, 2008, 03:40:31 PM
Would it be like the UV lights at bowling aleys that make your socks glow? They aren't hot but I guess the UV is maybe enough on it's own to fade the finish..

Maybe dismantle the whole guitar and just stick the body/neck in a sunbed or something for hours.. No problems with the pickups or hardware then..

that would just be a black light?

Ah different thing then, I always figured they were UV lights for some reason.

i don't know, could be. i'm pretty sure they're just dark purple colored lights.
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: gingataff on November 06, 2008, 03:21:20 PM
Black light/UV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_light)
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: Kilby on November 07, 2008, 05:47:22 PM
So called black lights are UV, but not particularly intense light, so they wouldn't be that good for fafing a finish

Insect / germacidal lamps produce much more UV.

Sun bed lamps (especially the tubes they use these days) are much better and would be the best bet.

However be careful with your eyes around those things.

If you know anybody in the printing industry though they have monster lamps to expose the printing plates.

The bulbs run so hot they are usually water cooled, but about 10 minutes is about a years exposure to the sun.
Title: Re: Fading your finish
Post by: CJ on November 07, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
So called black lights are UV, but not particularly intense light, so they wouldn't be that good for fafing a finish


i stand corrected. i had always thought black lights were very bright regular light bulbs colored a very dark purple.