Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: mikey5 on November 05, 2008, 06:04:02 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJ1GT8SKMk
The one Perry is playing??
Whitfords guitar is a Floyd Rose
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I'd say it's some breed of Zemaitis or other.
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http://www.zemaitis.net/zemaitis-players.htm
Confirmation?
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Zematis
(http://www.zemaitis.net/images/players/joe-perry-aerosmith.jpg)
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I do really like the look of those but imagine that they are very expensive (I can't seem to get into the link on the previous post, probably because my work firewall won't let me through!)
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I do really like the look of those but imagine that they are very expensive (I can't seem to get into the link on the previous post, probably because my work firewall won't let me through!)
they have reasonably priced versions.
in japan i saw a few metal front Vs - very tasty :)
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There are some earlier cones and now Greco make them. I have 2 Jap ones which cost me around $1,500 each. The metal front has an Emerald/AIV Mule combo and the pearl front is AV/AIV Mules.
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Hmm.. I've been meaning to go to the Zemaitis museum sometime, it's about 30 minutes by train from here. Perhaps I'll go on Sunday and take some pics for you guys if they allow cameras.
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Those Guitars are the most Beautiful I have seen
Mike
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There are some earlier cones and now Greco make them. I have 2 Jap ones which cost me around $1,500 each. The metal front has an Emerald/AIV Mule combo and the pearl front is AV/AIV Mules.
Where do I look for guitars like that. Is 1500 about as good as it gets??
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I'm sure they're great guitars, I've read a lot about them over the years... but I've never been keen on Zemaitis. All those inlays and/or engraving are too fussy/intricate for me, and I don't like the look of the home-made hardware (although making your own hardware is undoubtedly a very cool thing to do).
Or maybe it's just because Ronnie Wood plays them.... :wink:
You see them on eBay sometimes, if you search on either Zemaitis or Greco - usually from Japan. Prices aren't bad, but not so good now with the current exchange rates.
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Yeah - I saw Andy Mccoy from Hanoi Rocks using them last Friday (supporting Wednesday 13)
they have that Rolling Stones cool kind of vibe
Most bands that use them seem to have a stones/faces fixation : Aerosmith, Black Crowes, Cinderella, Hanoi Rocks, Quireboys etc
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they have that Rolling Stones cool kind of vibe
Most bands that use them seem to have a stones/faces fixation : Aerosmith, Black Crowes, Cinderella, Hanoi Rocks, Quireboys etc
Most of those bands have done some great songs, but I don't like that Stones vibe - that ragged, just-keeping-it-together sound and wasted, sleazy, hard-living scrawny gypsy image. It just doesn't appeal to me, never has.
Deep down I've got a puritanical streak - when I see those bands (Faster Pussycat spring to mind too!), part of me is thinking they should sober up and have a bath and a proper dinner. :roll:
Subconsciously, it probably puts me off Zemaitis guitars too! :lol:
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Hmm.. I've been meaning to go to the Zemaitis museum sometime, it's about 30 minutes by train from here. Perhaps I'll go on Sunday and take some pics for you guys if they allow cameras.
Hey You live in Japan?? I was born in Yokohama. Anyway if you are on that side of the world could you tell me what the GECO Zemantis licenced guitars cost? I cant find any anywhere
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZEMAITIS-GRECO-GZ-2600IF-Used-with-OHC-Shipping-Free_W0QQitemZ280282154523QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280282154523&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZEMAITIS-GRECO-GZ-2600IF-Used-with-OHC-Shipping-Free_W0QQitemZ280282154523QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280282154523&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zemaitis-GZ-Series-GZMF300-Guitar-MINT-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ280281943941QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280281943941&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zemaitis-GZ-Series-GZMF300-Guitar-MINT-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ280281943941QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280281943941&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tune-Bacchus-Zemaitis-Wild-Copy-3PU-Pearl-Inlays_W0QQitemZ300270488004QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300270488004&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tune-Bacchus-Zemaitis-Wild-Copy-3PU-Pearl-Inlays_W0QQitemZ300270488004QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300270488004&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
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Wonderful guitars oh from the above link this version of Toy in the Attic is superb.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3QpyyLkP1Zw
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There are some earlier cones and now Greco make them. I have 2 Jap ones which cost me around $1,500 each. The metal front has an Emerald/AIV Mule combo and the pearl front is AV/AIV Mules.
Hi there tell me about the guitars they sound like they are pretty much the best thing.
Mike
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Both of mine are Bacchus/Tune copies. The workmanship is amazing (they even get the shape on the back of the headstock correct). They have different acoustic sounds because of the metal front vs the pearl. The pearl is also a carved top. The necks are slim but comfy, and overall the sound with the original pickups wasn't bad - they are a PAF style. I got the metal front first because I liked the look of James Honeyman Scott's guitar. I was always a bit dubious about the pearl front (perhaps from having a bathroom with mosaic tiles when I was growing up!). Once I got it though, it sounds better than the metal front, more sustain and a slightly mellower tone. I changed the pickups because I knew BK's would sound better - I wasn't ready for the sound of an AV Mule though - it is a monster pickup, great tone. The neck mules sound like an excellent PAF. The guitars are thinner than a Les Paul and also lighter. If you can find one, I don't think you will be disappointed with it.
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From what I understand Bacchus (and mother company Deviser) are a kind of co-op of luthiers who sometimes make their own ranges. These guys are very good, and I'm sure a few of them have either played or owned real Zemaitis so their replicas should be good. I know Tune make basses, I didn't know they made guitars too. The basses seem very good.
Phil, do you have any pics of the neck joints?
Mikey5: Check out PhillyQ's links above, and you may also be able to order from http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/international/main.htm (http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/international/main.htm) Do a search on the Bareknuckle forum and you'll find a lot of people have used this company to order MIJ stuff.
You might also want to take a look at the Ikebe website, as far as I know they don't ship outside of Japan anymore but they do have very nice pictures.
Here are the Greco Zemaitis pages (http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping_20.php?cate=1&brand=10902&shop=&c_time=&h_price1=&h_price2=&fair=&keyword=&u_time=&state=1&pdown=&s_cate=1&state2=&img_flg=1&order=1&page_cnt=48) and the even more pretty and much more expensive Zemaitis Japan pages
(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping_20.php?cate=1&brand=10258&shop=&c_time=&h_price1=&h_price2=&fair=&keyword=&u_time=&state=1&pdown=&s_cate=1&state2=&img_flg=1&order=1&page_cnt=48)
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Phil, do you have any pics of the neck joints?
I'll get some for you, but it is spot on for the Zemaitis one. When I first got the metal front I thought it looked weird because the neck heel is the same depth as a bolt on neck, so I found some pictures of real Zemaitis' and that is what it is like! There is a small lip on the lower side of the neck joint (like a Les Paul Junior but about half the width).
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Cool, the first thing that struck me when I saw the GZ replicas was the neck joint, but I assumed this was as per the originals, it would be nice to see another example from another builder.
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Here are some pictures of the neck joint (and another one of the guitar that I couldn't resist!). The other really great details that they hace is the body gets thinner in the cutaway and they also have a rounding on the end of the back of the headstock. Both of these are on the originals as one of the points to check.
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Cheers Phil!
I see what you mean about the neck being like a bolt on, the 'lip' at the side is consistent with the Grecos I've seen. Good looking hardware too.
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Did they ever make any bolt-on models? Presumably they could have done it using standard necks and bodies.
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There is a bolt on bass at the store where I got the BC Rich.